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Hands-On With the New Sixth-Generation iPad

TheMountainLife said:
Given the amount of small businesses / restaurants fully dedicated to using Mini's to process transactions, I can see it receiving an update eventually to be compatible with the latest iOS.
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Yupp. That's why the Mini won't dissappear any time soon. Apple are just doing the bare minimum they can get away with to be price competitive but protect margins. There is no point in adding the latest component when the competition is £50-150 amazon or supermarket tablets.


Baymowe335 said:
Apple combines their industry leading hardware with an experience Android can’t match.
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The Pixel 2 only has one lens but beats most phones with 2 or 3.
 
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Macalicious2011 said:
Exactly. Pen support is insignificant to the mainstream consumer as its an expensive accessory that unecessary unless you draw or paint.
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I run IT at a high school. We have about 60 iPads; the rest (1,000+) of our devices are laptops, Chromebooks, iMacs and workstations. In high school a keyboard is a necessity. The pen is frankly unnecessary for all but the most niche use cases.

I think what will drive the success or failure of Apple’s latest push into education is the continued refinement of the software that allows teachers to easily setup a classroom and monitor iPads in use in that classroom, with every student having his/her own account. To-date, managing Apple devices through Profile Manager or an MDM has been difficult.

Hopefully Apple is simplifying things, but it may be too little too late compared to Google’s G Suite. Windows 10 S and Intune for Education are overly complex too.
 
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KeepCalmPeople said:
I run IT at a high school. We have about 60 iPads; the rest (1,000+) of our devices are laptops, Chromebooks, iMacs and workstations. In high school a keyboard is a necessity. The pen is frankly unnecessary for all but the most niche use cases.

I think what will drive the success or failure of Apple’s latest push into education is the continued refinement of the software that allows teachers to easily setup a classroom and monitor iPads in use in that classroom, with every student having his/her own account. To-date, managing Apple devices through Profile Manager or an MDM has been difficult.

Hopefully Apple is simplifying things, but it may be too little too late compared to Google’s G Suite. Windows 10 S and Intune for Education are overly complex too.
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Would profiles be of use in education?
 
mi7chy said:
Can't recommend it with only 2GB DRAM when it would probably cost Apple $5 more to increase to 4GB. The $500 iPad Pro 10.5 at Micro Center makes more sense with double the DRAM (4GB vs 2GB), double the storage (64GB vs 32GB) and less likely to be obsolete anytime soon.
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LMAO, what an ignorant comment. I've you would know anything than you would know that RAM prices have tripled in the last year. So no 2GB of extra RAM is not 5 dollars more, it's about 20 dollars more even for Apple, which is a huge amount of profit.

And second 2GB of RAM on IOS is about 4GB on android and I don't here anyone complaining about 4GB on android.
 
ACST said:
LMAO, what an ignorant comment. I've you would know anything than you would know that RAM prices have tripled in the last year. So no 2GB of extra RAM is not 5 dollars more, it's about 20 dollars more even for Apple, which is a huge amount of profit.

And second 2GB of RAM on IOS is about 4GB on android and I don't here anyone complaining about 4GB on android.
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Plus I don’t see people running around crying foul that the iPhone 8 only has 2gb of ram. Seems to run just fine, only the 8 plus and iPhone X got the 3gb of ram
 
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Interesting comments regarding pencil use... I totally understand that there are those who will never use one but find it interesting that some will write it off as practically irrelevant just because they’ll never use it.

I’m not an artist/painter - i use my pencil to do engineering drawing markups in PDF. I also use it to annotate meeting agendas as a way to take notes during meetings or annotating presentations when listening to lectures.

I can see there being value in an educational setting for a student that wishes to go paperless and benefits from taking handwritten notes over keyboarded notes. The palm rejection and accuracy of the pencil over a capacitive stylus are also factors to be considered.
 
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rGiskard said:
WTF is up with the Mini? For years I've had $500 set aside for a new Mini with a better display.

Why doesn't Apple want my money?
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Nobody who uses a Mini believes an iPhone would be a good substitute. I'd bet good money that those who think an iPhone Plus is as good as a Mini iPad are the sort who don't use an iPad for reading books.
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If you want to read books, get an Amazon Paperwhite Kindle - $130 and easier on the eyes for reading. For education purposes, a reduced price laptop with touchscreen would have been a nice offering.
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satchmo said:
And pick up the current 10.5 on sale because the new one likely wont be cheap.
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That's the truth - if they add face id to it its price will be comparable to the X.
 
FasterQuieter said:
I think expecting 4GB is unrealistic, but 3GB would have been a good compromise. It preserves the differentiation with the Pro and also gives these more longevity. That longevity would have been especially useful for cash-starved schools.
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RAM isn't an advertised spec, so there's no difference to preserve.
 
iPad Pro 10.5 too expensive, new iPad isn't exactly worth the upgrade from iPad Air 2.
 
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ACST said:
LMAO, what an ignorant comment. I've you would know anything than you would know that RAM prices have tripled in the last year. So no 2GB of extra RAM is not 5 dollars more, it's about 20 dollars more even for Apple, which is a huge amount of profit.

And second 2GB of RAM on IOS is about 4GB on android and I don't here anyone complaining about 4GB on android.
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What make you think 2GB of RAM on iOS is about 4GB on Android? I certainly dom see that. At least my Nadroid phone with 4GB RAM does not reload stuffs while iPad 2017 constantly reloading stuff. 5 browser tabs will trigger reload instantly. Not motion all the background app being purged from memory.

20 dollars isn’t significant when you have the economy of scals. This iPad is pretty much all recycled parts anyway. You are talking about a product that is using 5 years of design and same screen as iPad Air, 6 years old camera, 2 years old CPU. If this is Android, you can pick this up dirt cheap. AppLe is too greedy for not putting extra RAM on this. If 4GB cost them to much, the out 3GB like what they did with iPhone 8X. You are talking about iPad which has lot higher resolution than any iPhone. It gonna need more RAM for similar performance as iPhone 7. And we all know how iOS 11 runs on older hardware.

Just to show you, how may JetStream event I have got with my iPad 2017. JetStream event triggers when RAM gots too low

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This comes up every single day and multiple times a day.

Not long ago, before iPhone 6S paired with 2GB RAM, people here think 1GB is enough. Look at how iPhone 6 performed with iOS 11. 2GB in 2018 is not cutting it.

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nuvvanda said:
What about the home button?
Still mechanical?
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Yes. This iPad is exactly same as iPad 2017 which basically iPad Air from 2013. It is 5 years old design with 6 years old camera and 2 years old CPU.
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ACST said:
LMAO, what an ignorant comment. I've you would know anything than you would know that RAM prices have tripled in the last year. So no 2GB of extra RAM is not 5 dollars more, it's about 20 dollars more even for Apple, which is a huge amount of profit.

And second 2GB of RAM on IOS is about 4GB on android and I don't here anyone complaining about 4GB on android.
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I don’t have iPhone 8, but I have had iPhone 6S. 2GB is not enough. Keep in mind, Yu really can’t compare iPad performance with iPhone. The iPhone 8 to these day still have 750P screen. This is just barely more than 720P, not even full HD screen. I got 300 dollars Android phone has 1080P.

iPad has lot more resulting to push, lot more than this tiny 750P screen. iPhone 8 Plus has 1080P screen and Apple is pairing with 3GB of RAM. But Apple choose to put 2GB of RAM on devices with much higher resolution.
 
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Apple should not make profits from students. It's an expensive product based on old technology.
 
Dan, for your reviews on these "lower end iPads" can you compare them to, say, other lower end iPads instead of the iPad Pro? I don't think this model should be benched with the most expensive iPad on the market and you're talking to maybe 2% of the iPad base (the ones with a Pro) with these discussions.
 
cansuds said:
Apple should not make profits from students. It's an expensive product based on old technology.
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Why? What special about student that a corporation should not make a profits? Apple is not running charity, if you think it is too expensive, then don't buy.
 
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Think I'm going to go ahead and get this. Literally all I need it for is internet browsing and reading magazines, it'll be first tablet since getting an ASUS Transformer while I was still in school
 
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