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Has anyone noticed a Severe SLOW DOWN since
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a jailbroken iphone will slow down if you install themes and apps. the more apps you have installed, the slower it gets. I know this for a fact since I own 2 iphones, one vanilla 2.1, and the other jailbroken 2.1.
Sucks cause I spent $20 for the premium intelliscreen license which I cant use now.
Sucks cause I spent $20 for the premium intelliscreen license which I cant use now.
There is some app thats not playing nice then. There is NO reason for your phone to slow down from a jailbreak, but the apps you download could because they run in the backround. Themes will not slow it down (unless your backround is a video) because all it is doing is changing a default pic (lets say, an icon) for another, thats it, no running processes or anything.
Again guys, if your phone is slowing down after a jailbreak, reset your phone, then make sure everytime you quit out of something you are actually quitting (hold down the home button till it goes away). Otherwise your programs are just running in the backround thus slowing it down.
The jailbreak process itself isnt some sort of running process that is always on, it merely gives you access to do what you will. Jailbreaking does not slow down your phone (unless an error occured), what you do after that if not smart, will.
Well said, i completely agree
It seems people have this misconception that just because a phone is jailbroken means it's automatically susceptible to further issues or instabilities. This is false. Like i posted before, i have 6-7 Cydia apps installed, alongside many AppStore apps and i have yet to experience the slowdown people talk about. These apps are installed the same way and run the same way as any AppStore apps. You don't actually have to force quit applications as they will actually quit, just know what it is you're installing (IntelliScreen is a perfect example of a battery/resource hog AND runs in the background...i stay away from this). Most apps DO NOT run in the background, as there is no need for that. Before people comment on jailbroken iphone problems, more people need to do battery usage tests and such pre/after jailbreaking to really get an idea if it's affecting their phones.
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Well, I hate to be the one to say this, but you guys are just plain wrong.
Two times I've tried jailbreaking 2.1 - once with PwnageTool and once with QuickPwn. Both times I installed only one 'un-official' app: WinterBoard. Both times I immediately noticed substantial slowdowns opening almost every app - SMS, Photos, Mail, Safari, you name it. SLOW. I didn't have battery issues, but there was DEFINITELY slow down.
Just my observations. I think WinterBoard is a great app, but it clearly needs some tweaking. It caused noticeable, substantial slow downs for me both times I tried jailbreaking.
Well, I hate to be the one to say this, but you guys are just plain wrong.
Two times I've tried jailbreaking 2.1 - once with PwnageTool and once with QuickPwn. Both times I installed only one 'un-official' app: WinterBoard. Both times I immediately noticed substantial slowdowns opening almost every app - SMS, Photos, Mail, Safari, you name it. SLOW. I didn't have battery issues, but there was DEFINITELY slow down.
Just my observations. I think WinterBoard is a great app, but it clearly needs some tweaking. It caused noticeable, substantial slow downs for me both times I tried jailbreaking.
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Well, I hate to be the one to say this, but you guys are just plain wrong.
Two times I've tried jailbreaking 2.1 - once with PwnageTool and once with QuickPwn. Both times I installed only one 'un-official' app: WinterBoard. Both times I immediately noticed substantial slowdowns opening almost every app - SMS, Photos, Mail, Safari, you name it. SLOW. I didn't have battery issues, but there was DEFINITELY slow down.
Just my observations. I think WinterBoard is a great app, but it clearly needs some tweaking. It caused noticeable, substantial slow downs for me both times I tried jailbreaking.
I definitely believe you, but my experience has been the complete opposite of yours. Had jailbreaking slowed down opening of apps, i would have restored immediately. Sorry to hear you weren't so lucky.
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Well, I hate to be the one to say this, but you guys are just plain wrong.
Two times I've tried jailbreaking 2.1 - once with PwnageTool and once with QuickPwn. Both times I installed only one 'un-official' app: WinterBoard. Both times I immediately noticed substantial slowdowns opening almost every app - SMS, Photos, Mail, Safari, you name it. SLOW. I didn't have battery issues, but there was DEFINITELY slow down.
Just my observations. I think WinterBoard is a great app, but it clearly needs some tweaking. It caused noticeable, substantial slow downs for me both times I tried jailbreaking.
....winterboard is an app. I stated its only apps that will slow you down, assuming there is something wrong with the app. The jailbreak itself didnt slow down anything. How was I wrong?
the customizablity of the ipod/iphone has dramatically dropped since 2.x
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You're right, I guess I just misread your post.
Actually, since WinterBoard is the ONLY reason I jailbreak in the first place, I guess it's kind of hard for me to separate the two, mentally. If that makes any sense.
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Well, I hate to be the one to say this, but you guys are just plain wrong.
Two times I've tried jailbreaking 2.1 - once with PwnageTool and once with QuickPwn. Both times I installed only one 'un-official' app: WinterBoard. Both times I immediately noticed substantial slowdowns opening almost every app - SMS, Photos, Mail, Safari, you name it. SLOW. I didn't have battery issues, but there was DEFINITELY slow down.
Just my observations. I think WinterBoard is a great app, but it clearly needs some tweaking. It caused noticeable, substantial slow downs for me both times I tried jailbreaking.
....winterboard is an app. I stated its only apps that will slow you down, assuming there is something wrong with the app. The jailbreak itself didnt slow down anything. How was I wrong?
the customizablity of the ipod/iphone has dramatically dropped since 2.x
You're right, I guess I just misread your post.
Actually, since WinterBoard is the ONLY reason I jailbreak in the first place, I guess it's kind of hard for me to separate the two, mentally. If that makes any sense.
yea i know exactly what you mean, since the appstore i really havent cared that much about my jailbreak other than how my ipod looks.Wirelessly posted (iPhone 3G (16GB, 2.1 PWNed): Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5F136 Safari/525.20)
You're right, I guess I just misread your post.
Actually, since WinterBoard is the ONLY reason I jailbreak in the first place, I guess it's kind of hard for me to separate the two, mentally. If that makes any sense.
Well said, i completely agree
It seems people have this misconception that just because a phone is jailbroken means it's automatically susceptible to further issues or instabilities. This is false.
How is that false? Any time you install a non app store app, you take the chance of having some sort of undesirable consequece on your phone since none of those apps are vetted. The whole point of jailbreaking is to install unapproved apps.
I've had mine jailbroken with lots of apps installed and I see no slowdown at all. I even have a wallpaper changer that changes my wallpaper based on the time of day it is and stack installed. Its just as snappy as before. The only time my battery life has suffered is when I leave SSH on. I turn it off in BossPrefs and everything is fine. I also turn 3G off and leave Edge on unless I am going out somewhere. I'm always on WiFi when I'm at home so I turn 3G off. This is because when you lock your phone the phone drops the Wifi connection after about 30 seconds and goes to either 3G or Edge depending on what you have turned on at the time. Which is the reason why jailbreak apps like Insomnia are necessary at times. So I have it drop to Edge instead of 3G because you get more battery life out of Edge. I also keep location and bluetooth services off until I need them.
Here is a picture of just some of the apps I have installed. The Apps, Games, and Multimedia folders have 15, 16, and 9 apps in each respectively.
Here is a picture of just some of the apps I have installed. The Apps, Games, and Multimedia folders have 15, 16, and 9 apps in each respectively.
We are saying the act of jailbreaking doesnt actually affect anything (other than giving you complete access). There are no new running processes as a result of jailbreaking. The apps you choose, are not the same thing as jailbreaking.
I've never said that jailbreaking alone causes slowdown. I said installing themes and apps will. What's the point of jailbreaking if you're not going to install anything?
As I've mentioned before, I own TWO iphones, one jailbroken and the other not. The jailbroken one always lags behind the unbroken one. This is with only winterboard installed. Even after I uninstalled winterboard, it still lags. Those of you who say you notice no lag need to do a side by side comparison and see for yourself and I guarantee you'll change your mind.
themes, no slow down, all it does is assign differerent pictures instead of the stock ones. No extra processes, therefore no slowdown
apps, whole different story. It really comes down to how well it was written. A poorly made app is probably going to slow u down with things like memory leakage. Also, for some reason, many people forget that jailbroken apps dont follow the SDK and therefore can run in the backround. People often make the mistake of merely minimizing the app instead of actually closing it. Backround processes = slowdown.
Basically if you know what your doing, and the apps u run are good, you will experience no slowdown.
That is EXACTLY what jailbreaking is about...and goes for a lot of things in life, for that matter.
Themes aren't going to slow down your phone. It's merely telling it to "use these icons to represent those apps instead of stock." Apps will. And if you're smart enough about what unofficial, non-AppStore apps you put on your phone, you are unlikely to run into problems. I love when people say that i should do side-by-side comparison testing to see obvious signs of slowdown between a non-jailbroken phone and a jailbroken one. Cause i have.
And the difference between the two? Nothing. I guess I know what i am doing...
But how do I load the theme without using an app? Both times I jailbroke 2.1 (once with QuickPWN and once with PwnageTool) I installed only WinterBoard - so that I could load a theme - and both times I experienced very noticeable slowdowns as I've already described. That's with ONLY ONE app installed. My other (App Store) apps were installed on both virgin and jailbroken 2.1, so they're not the issue. The problem seems to be WinterBoard, and since we NEED WinterBoard to load our themes, your statement "themes, no slow down, all it does is assign differerent pictures instead of the stock ones. No extra processes, therefore no slowdown" makes no sense. You can't have themes without an app.
Well, I'm at 2 days on vanilla Apple firmware with no slow-downs and no reboots required, so that seems to seal it for me. I'd normally be tapping my foot waiting for apps to open by now.
I do know how to jailbreak and I do choose my apps with care. The slowdowns that I was seeing were a function of the jailbreak or the apps I'd installed through Cydia.
For reference, here's what I had installed:
I do know how to jailbreak and I do choose my apps with care. The slowdowns that I was seeing were a function of the jailbreak or the apps I'd installed through Cydia.
For reference, here's what I had installed:
- winterboard (and the illuminous theme)
- bossprefs
- bosstool
- mobile terminal
- openssh
And you know what, as soon as you install ANYTHING on vanilla firmware, Cydia-based or from the AppStore, you will probably notice it isn't as "smooth" as it is after a fresh restore. Go ask people who have 3-4+ home screens worth of apps from the AppStore running vanilla firmware if it is as fast as it was the day you got your phone. It won't be. But how fun is having a phone so feature-rich, but not installing apps to take advantage of it? It is NOT the jailbreak process that "slows down" the phone. It's apps. But it isn't even jailbreak apps. It's ANY app. The way the OS works, from using more memory for application mapping when you have more apps installed to the Springboard, and on-the-fly overlaying of the icons to give them that "shine" and rounded-corners...this all takes memory. The simple fact is, when you restore and install probably i would say another home screen worth of apps afterward from either Cydia or just the AppStore, even page transitions, swiping to get from one home screen to another, is NOT, and yes i have tested this NOT as smooth as it is from a fresh restore.
Try it out yourself. Restore, then swipe the from first home screen page to the second home screen page on vanilla 2.1, with just the stock apps. Then install apps to fill the second home screen and add a full, third home screen. Repeat page transition. Is it smooth as before? Nope. It's like saying, "I love my 3G iPhone, but i hardly ever use it so i leave 3G off, i leave off Location Services, I leave fetch and push off, yada yada.." As with anything, you gotta sacrifice something, and in this case, the so-called lag referred to with regard to jailbroken phones is so negligible and is exactly like having a bunch of AppStore apps installed that i really don't see the problem other than maybe forgetting about apps altogether and just using it with what it came with. And how fun would that be? I am sorry people are having issues with their phones, but let me tell you if i experienced the same thing with mine, as nitpicky as i am....i'd be back on vanilla faster than you could say "vanilla." But as it stands, i am actually enjoying my phone MORE while it's jailbroken...if not for the themes and apps that add extra functionality, then definitely the conversations i get from other iPhone owners who see my phone and just go "Whoa, how'd you do that?"
It seemed like only specific apps, it was Pictures, Settings, Camera all seemed to take between 5-10 secs to open. SMS though was the real PITA, SMS sometimes took 15 secs to open.
I restored it (as a new phone, no backup) last night to vanilla 2.1 and it seems like the SMS lag is still there, but doesnt happen as often. If this is the case, I'll re-jailbreak soon.
After jailbreaking. Go to CYDIA
Install OPEN SSH and follow the tutorials on how to set it up.
The easiest route is to go download putty.exe from google.com
Access your settings, go to WIFI and click on the lil arrow and itll show you the details especially your IP, write this down.
Open putty and type in your HOSTNAME: which should be your IP address of your iPhone.
Hit OK or Enter on keyboard and let it load and sometimes itll tell you that there is a certificate, this might take a minute or two to verify. After that username is ROOT and password is ALPINE <-- all lower case.
Once you access the phone go back to CYDIA and follow the tutorial for chanign your pass. Once you finish this. changing your pass.
Go to google and search WINSCP for windows and i forgot the Mac Version. Once you get it, install and open it. After opening on the new screen type in your IP address again, and itll ask for a ROOT username and password, type ROOT for user, and your newly created pass.
Hit enter, and you will see two windows loaded, from there the right one is your APPLE device the left one is your local PC HD. Go to the right window and click the up arrow to go back out, and go back out to root from there i think it is APPLICATIONS, and just manually delete the Installer DIR.
Reboot phone and all is good.
But how do I load the theme without using an app? Both times I jailbroke 2.1 (once with QuickPWN and once with PwnageTool) I installed only WinterBoard - so that I could load a theme - and both times I experienced very noticeable slowdowns as I've already described. That's with ONLY ONE app installed. My other (App Store) apps were installed on both virgin and jailbroken 2.1, so they're not the issue. The problem seems to be WinterBoard, and since we NEED WinterBoard to load our themes, your statement "themes, no slow down, all it does is assign differerent pictures instead of the stock ones. No extra processes, therefore no slowdown" makes no sense. You can't have themes without an app.
hmmm....
where exactly did you get winterboard