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HD displays are needed if you plan on growing the display size.

Otherwise you would have a really crappy quality display.
 
fair enough yes I see.

but if 1080p is a gimmick, 64bit is too

It's debatable. Nothing is really taking advantage of it right now true. Not sure if it was a main selling point for Apple either. With that said, Apple's products are going 64 Bit and are future proof. My guess is iOS 10 will be 64bit only and the iPhone 5s will be able to get that update.

1080p on a smartphone is a gimmick because the eyes can't even tell the difference. It's not useful now and it's not gonna be useful later.
 
It's debatable. Nothing is really taking advantage of it right now true. Not sure if it was a main selling point for Apple either. With that said, Apple's products are going 64 Bit and are future proof. My guess is iOS 10 will be 64bit only and the iPhone 5s will be able to get that update.

1080p on a smartphone is a gimmick because the eyes can't even tell the difference. It's not useful now and it's not gonna be useful later.

Yes 64bit will surely be a necessity at some point. Hopefully iOS 10 can function with 1gb ram :)

I cant agree on the 1080P point.

That's similar methodology to the claim that the eye can't see over 60FPS (or some claim 30). However, there is a big difference playing a shooter at 120FPS, regardless of any eye science.

I dont really care for QHD or whatever resolution the LG G3 is going to have, but I do want 1080P (at least for a 5" screen). So, maybe I'm only a little crazy
 
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It's debatable. Nothing is really taking advantage of it right now true. Not sure if it was a main selling point for Apple either. With that said, Apple's products are going 64 Bit and are future proof. My guess is iOS 10 will be 64bit only and the iPhone 5s will be able to get that update.

1080p on a smartphone is a gimmick because the eyes can't even tell the difference. It's not useful now and it's not gonna be useful later.

It depends on several factors.
1. How good your vision is
2. How large the screen is
3. How closely you look at it

For a person who has the best possible vision a person can have, they can resolve 573 ppi at 12 inches and 458 ppi at 15 inches.

So, in that case, 1080p isn't a gimmick on a phone. The larger the phone the more important it is to have a 1080p display.

I can tell a difference between my iPhone and the Nexus 5 when looking at text from my normal viewing distance. The Nexus 5 looks sharper.
 
I cant agree on the 1080P point.

That's similar methodology to the claim that the eye can't see over 60FPS (or some claim 30). However, there is a big difference playing a shooter at 120FPS, regardless of any eye science.

Fair enough. I agree with you on playing video games at FPS higher than 60FPS. It does feel and seem smoother. I'm not a scientist. All I'm saying, is guys way smarter than me like Anand have stated 1080p on a smartphone is a gimmick. I read what smart people have to say and I listen as well. If it was on the iPhone I would say the same thing as well.
 
Apple really needs to fix the so called Retina display in iPhone. I can easily discern the pixels on the iPhone 5s display, while I have a hard time seeing pixels with 1080p. No 1080p, no sale.
 
Apple really needs to fix the so called Retina display in iPhone. I can easily discern the pixels on the iPhone 5s display, while I have a hard time seeing pixels with 1080p. No 1080p, no sale.

I doubt anyone will take this comment seriously.
 
I doubt anyone will take this comment seriously.

Well, when laying in bet before sleep I often check calendar for the next day, set my alarm, read top news and go through my twitter feed and so on. Here the phone gets very close in a quite dark room, when laying sideways. I have to say that I can easily discern the pixels here. Not elsewhere and through the day, but it is something I notice after having used GS4.
 
Well, when laying in bet before sleep I often check calendar for the next day, set my alarm, read top news and go through my twitter feed and so on. Here the phone gets very close in a quite dark room, when laying sideways. I have to say that I can easily discern the pixels here. Not elsewhere and through the day, but it is something I notice after having used GS4.

I had a GS4 for two months and will say what it lacked in brightness it made up with clarity. It is sharper and clearer than the iPhone 5 or 5S.

Though I think the iPhone is the better product.
 
++++++ this ^^^^^^^
I don't worship any company either....Apple has always been the best at blending hardware and software. But lately the competition has caught up to them. They really need a home run with the IP6 and not just copy the rest of the competition with a larger screen........

Ive been reading they need a HomeRun for the past two years yet the same guys in here who say that keep buying the new phones.

I dont feel they need a homerun. IMO all they have to do is make that 4.7" screen and those who say 4" is perfect(after the 3.5" was perfect), will now just say that 4.7" is perfect.
They WILL sell a ton of them but for me, they need to let the OS be more open for me to go back. I like choice and Apple dont give you many.
 
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Well, when laying in bet before sleep I often check calendar for the next day, set my alarm, read top news and go through my twitter feed and so on. Here the phone gets very close in a quite dark room, when laying sideways. I have to say that I can easily discern the pixels here. Not elsewhere and through the day, but it is something I notice after having used GS4.

I can see jagged edges along text and some icons on my iPhone 5S. That is the main difference I see when looking at the Nexus 5. I can also see a difference in clarity between the Galaxy S5 and Nexus 5 because of the diamond / Pentile structure of the S5, so there is more to it than just resolution.

Also, of course, you'll be able to see more details in movies and pictures on a 1080p display when compared to a lower resolution display of the same size.

1080p on a phone is not a gimmick, but some people may not be able to see a difference, depending on their vision. There is a point of diminishing returns, but 1080p on a 5-inch display hasn't reached that point. The iPhone would benefit from a higher resolution display, but according to the rumors the 4.7-inch iPhone 6 will maintain the same PPI as the current iPhone.
 
Ive been reading they need a HomeRun for the past two years yet the same guys in here who say that keep buying the new phones.

I dont feel they need a homerun. IMO all they have to do is make that 4.7" screen and those who say 4" is perfect(after the 3.5" was perfect), will not just say that 4.7" is perfect.
They WILL sell a ton of them but for me, they need to let the OS be more open for me to go back. I like choice and Apple dont give you many.

I agree with this. I think a 5.5" or 5.7" phone being offered along side it would be the cherry on top. I'm hoping iOS 8 has some hidden surprises like Swype built into the keyboard, but I'm not gonna hold my breathe.
 
Easy there! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to come to the conclusion that Apple will not waste time on gimmicks. Using past history as a guide, I think it's pretty obvious.

Apple didn't get caught cheating on benchmark test. Samsung did. Apple's phone is faster. No need to fret. Samsung will get 'em next release. Cheer up!

I guess, if thats what you care about. I dont care about a benchmark. I have a Nexus 5 and have no idea where it ranks in a benchmark whether it is first or last.
All i know is it loads fast and performs well with no lag. Thats all i care about. I dont need to know if it loads a millisecond faster or slower than than the next guys phone. What do i need to know that for?
Benchmarks are just geek info.
 
I agree with this. I think a 5.5" or 5.7" phone being offered along side it would be the cherry on top. I'm hoping iOS 8 has some hidden surprises like Swype built into the keyboard, but I'm not gonna hold my breathe.

The swipe keyboard is something I'd like to see in iOS, and it's to the point now that they almost HAVE to add it. Windows Phone 8.1 added it, so now all Android phones and Windows phones have it. I'm sure that Apple could find a way to market it so that it appears to be their own innovation. :)
 
1080p on a smartphone is a gimmick because the eyes can't even tell the difference. It's not useful now and it's not gonna be useful later.

I can sure as hell tell a difference between HD and FullHD on mobile phones, not to mention the screen on an iPhone which is even below HD. Quality being one thing, but the fact that you can squeeze in a lot more information on a FullHD screen makes the comparison a no-brainer. And when you compare a tiny 4" low resolution screen with a modern properly sized FullHD screen, well, you'd be insane to even make such a comparison. It's like comparing a black and white CRT TV to a modern flat screen.

And to rant on my pet peeve: 1080p is a video mode, indicating 1080 horizontal lines and progressive scan. The screen resolution commonly associated with such video is FullHD, i.e. 1920 x 1080 pixels.
 
The swipe keyboard is something I'd like to see in iOS, and it's to the point now that they almost HAVE to add it. Windows Phone 8.1 added it, so now all Android phones and Windows phones have it. I'm sure that Apple could find a way to market it so that it appears to be their own innovation. :)

Sure, if they market it to those who have never had a smartphone, lol. Who does'nt know about Swype?
 
4K will come when it makes sense and is mainstream. 1. It takes up too much space. 2. Unless you got the big bucks to buy a TV or monitor that can handle that type of content, its limited to your phone which your phone can't even enjoy the 4K video it can record because it's only 1080p display.

Its called future proofing. You can record all those precious moments in 4K. You dont have to keep them on your phone, store them on a hard drive.

When 4K TV's are a reasonable price and mainstream, you have all those special moments in glorious 4K quality.

Now thats what I call forward thinking.
 
When 4K TV's are a reasonable price and mainstream, you have all those special moments in glorious 4K quality.

If current phonecam videos are anything to go by, I think you might have to make do without the "glorious" and the "quality", though.
 
If current phonecam videos are anything to go by, I think you might have to make do without the "glorious" and the "quality", though.

Dont know what phone your using, but my phone takes really good photos and videos.
 
Its called future proofing. You can record all those precious moments in 4K. You dont have to keep them on your phone, store them on a hard drive.

When 4K TV's are a reasonable price and mainstream, you have all those special moments in glorious 4K quality.

Now thats what I call forward thinking.

Just hope those precious moments aren't longer than 5 min. ;)

I agree with the future proofing. However, a half a$$ed implementation is irritating.
 
I can sure as hell tell a difference between HD and FullHD on mobile phones, not to mention the screen on an iPhone which is even below HD. Quality being one thing, but the fact that you can squeeze in a lot more information on a FullHD screen makes the comparison a no-brainer. And when you compare a tiny 4" low resolution screen with a modern properly sized FullHD screen, well, you'd be insane to even make such a comparison. It's like comparing a black and white CRT TV to a modern flat screen.

And to rant on my pet peeve: 1080p is a video mode, indicating 1080 horizontal lines and progressive scan. The screen resolution commonly associated with such video is FullHD, i.e. 1920 x 1080 pixels.

I'll throw this out there:

MOTO X Engineer on Phone Specs

That leads me to the criticism about the screen resolution. Why did Motorola decide to go with a lower resolution? I mean, it seems like every other high-end smartphone, including the new LG G2 that was just introduced today, has a 1080P screen. And when it comes to pixels per square inch, the Galaxy S4 has the Moto X beat.

Arshad: First of all, what Samsung has done with the GS4 screen is not true 1080P. Instead, Samsung is using a PenTile display. Each pixel is made up of three-color sub pixels. It's missing one of the pixels. We are using a true RGB pattern custom display that gives true color reproduction without wasting battery life.

Samsung is using a graphics processor, but they're using it the wrong way and their performance is actually worse than ours. They are burning more battery life. In the case of HTC, they're using an LCD screen, which is simply an inferior technology.

Also, the human eye cannot discern resolution beyond 300 pixels per inch. And we exceed that. So the eye can't even see the difference. But the human eye can see big differences in color saturation and reproduction. In fact, I'd say that is even more important than resolution. So we decided to focus on that aspect instead.
 
Also, the human eye cannot discern resolution beyond 300 pixels per inch. And we exceed that. So the eye can't even see the difference. But the human eye can see big differences in color saturation and reproduction. In fact, I'd say that is even more important than resolution. So we decided to focus on that aspect instead.

No matter how often you repeat Apple's marketing slogans, I can see a difference between an iPhone 5 and an Lg g2 in terms of pixel density.

These days the word "Retina" stands for a relatively low resolution screen on a smartphone, compared to the common 1080p screens.
 
I'll throw this out there:

MOTO X Engineer on Phone Specs

That leads me to the criticism about the screen resolution. Why did Motorola decide to go with a lower resolution? I mean, it seems like every other high-end smartphone, including the new LG G2 that was just introduced today, has a 1080P screen. And when it comes to pixels per square inch, the Galaxy S4 has the Moto X beat.

Arshad: First of all, what Samsung has done with the GS4 screen is not true 1080P. Instead, Samsung is using a PenTile display. Each pixel is made up of three-color sub pixels. It's missing one of the pixels. We are using a true RGB pattern custom display that gives true color reproduction without wasting battery life.

Samsung is using a graphics processor, but they're using it the wrong way and their performance is actually worse than ours. They are burning more battery life. In the case of HTC, they're using an LCD screen, which is simply an inferior technology.

Also, the human eye cannot discern resolution beyond 300 pixels per inch. And we exceed that. So the eye can't even see the difference. But the human eye can see big differences in color saturation and reproduction. In fact, I'd say that is even more important than resolution. So we decided to focus on that aspect instead.

I wonder what he'll say when the Moto X-2 comes out with a 1080p screen? Every company that has the lesser specs or tech usually claims it's a gimmick or that it's not needed but they end up using it the next time around.
 
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