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even laggier than before.

Bring back the old style too. Can't even shuffle a ****ing album now without digging into the albums menu!! **** that.


Hardly ever bother loading up music on my phone now.
 
In my iPad mini 1G and the music app is nearly unusable. Sluggish and it hangs from time to time.

I can confirm that now the sound has more bass and higher output in general.
 
Uh oh. We gotta an alpha male over here folks. You can always turn on "darken colors" in accessibility if its too girly for you.


I didn't see any argument on “female” or “male colors”. And honestly, I don't care if that pink is what little girls, the gay community or alpha males like – because that pink redesign is frigging hideous by itself.

And to think the main reason I ordered the 128GB iphone was explicitly so I could put lots of music on there.


Actually, that's what I was planning too. But now that I've seen all of your feedback, I doubt I'll get a new iPhone.

Probably I should stay with my iPhone 5 and get a refurbished and modded iPod Video instead. (IMHO, that UI was the best music experience ever, though I'd miss some features.)

Does ANYONE like the landscape "cover flow" type view in the Music app? I think its absolutely worthless.


Me too. If it's about eye-candy, I prefer Cover Flow any day – BY FAR.
 

You're using an entire screen to show a single row of covers. It's a waste of space. The current method uses the entire screen and packs everything together so there's no wasted screen space and you can scroll through everything faster. It's much more efficient.

I just discovered yesterday that you can pinch to zoom so you can display 2, 3, our 4 rows depending on your preference (at least on the iPhone 6).
 
I mean this in two ways.

First, the horrid UI, with all the albums from the same artist showing up in just one list. Is it still there?
Cheers.

Sadly it's still the same. For people who don't understand what the fuss is about, say if I have an artist with 15 albums and I want to play their very first album, I select Artist and see all the fifteen albums and songs in one page. Thus, I have to scroll all the way down every time to listen to the first album.

The implementation before iOS 7 was, Tap on Artist, see 15 albums (not songs) in one page, then tap on the Album and see the songs.

Current implementation seems to be catered to people who purchase a few songs for an Artist and not people who have multiple albums, this behavior from Apple is consistent with their dumbing down of applications.
 
Is anyone else having an issue using the "shuffle" option while connected to their car via Bluetooth? Is it just my Mazda CX-5?
 
You're using an entire screen to show a single row of covers. It's a waste of space. The current method uses the entire screen and packs everything together so there's no wasted screen space and you can scroll through everything faster. It's much more efficient.



I just discovered yesterday that you can pinch to zoom so you can display 2, 3, our 4 rows depending on your preference (at least on the iPhone 6).


That feature that you mention has been available since the introduction of iOS 7. :)

Regarding the efficient use of space, well, the standard list view – portrait mode – displays even less elements at the same time, so following that logic, Cover Flow is more efficient.

On a side note, the point was about nice looking features. I think most people would agree on the fact that wether they prefer the new album browsing view or Cover Flow, landscape modes has always been more about eye-candy than functionality.

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Call me crazy but I like to cue up a few albums and listen to them in a row and usually by album release date for an artist.

I guess apple feels there music listening demographic is of age 13?


Probably. That would explain most changes in the UI.

Anyway, if you want that sort of features I encourage you to try Ecoute. It's way better.
 
The lag is awful now. I have a lot of music, and it's one of my primary uses for the phone in general. What I'm getting is a 1-3 second delay between tapping any of the play controls (FF, play, RW), and the volume slider is also laggy and often inaccurate. What happens is you tap the button, assume it's not registered and then tap again, and by the time the phone catches up, you've skipped ahead five songs.

It's ridiculous since I upgraded from the 4S to the 6 and my music collection was essentially the same after upgrade. After IOS 7 I thought they could only improve the music player since it was such a huge step backward from IOS 6. Sadly I was wrong.
 
wow this 8.0.1 update made it even worse... downloading an album keeps resetting the circle-download-animation. but it still seems to download it... just veeeeeeery slowly..
 
When you people say that the UI is too laggish, are you talking about the iPhone 6 or older models?
 
Well, one positive thing with 8 is that you can once again delete entire albums with a swipe which you couldn't do in 7.
 
I also hate that shuffle isn't a true shuffle. I've got 3000 songs on my phone but always hear the same songs.


I think it has something to do with the shuffle algorithm – which plays more often songs with a high rating or high number of playings.

Whether or not that algorithm is the same for the old iPods, the iPhone and iTunes, I don't know.
 
I've tried third party music apps but their lack of support for maintaining the folder hierarchy for playlists is a deal breaker (it's an iOS API limitation, so none of them work... I don't know if they lifted this restriction with iOS 8).

My workaround for the completely beffudling lack of an Artist->Album->Songs structure is to change all of my albums (600+ of them at the moment) so that the "Sort by" field for "Album" is "Artist name/Year" ... this puts the albums in the order I'd have them on a CD shelf when I go to Album mode. I can touch the letter of a *band* name instead of an album name (sorting by album name across artists has never made any sense to me whatsoever - oh goodie, Metallica's Master of Puppets is next to Loreena McKennitt's The Mask and Mirror - great).

It also let's me keep the Artist name as, say, Aimee Mann but have it show up in the M's as has been the custom throughout history (prior to my discovery of the "sort by" fields years ago this drove me nuts).

Using this sort method also makes the landscape mode a good way to browse for me too, since album art is what sticks with me more than the name of an album, and it's in artist order now. What makes it awful is that it doesn't integrate with the portrait mode. Turn it vertical again, and you're back on whatever you were browsing before. It is much more efficient than cover flow - which I never used - and iOS 8 does seem to have fixed the bug where it would stay in that view when you went vertical again (I used to be able to reproduce it at will, I can't now).

Scrolling my Albums list is choppy now (on a 5S), and that's just silly.

I'm getting my 6+ today - I was hoping they'd put landscape mode to better use on it. Anyone know if they did?
 
Oh, one more thing, I had my music library get pretty borked (album art and such) when upgrading to iOS 8. Simply unchecking the music and resyncing didn't do it for me. What I ended up doing was a "factory reset" (it re-downloads iOS 8) and then a restore.

After that, my music and album art sync'd... OKish. A few iTunes purchased albums - just 4 to be exact, but it was enough - they messed up the Albums list. They appeared in the right place, but they'd put the "R" designation above an album by an "A" artist. That made the navigation by letter nonfunctional. Broken. Kaput. It ceased to be. The only way I could fix it, finally, was to remove those albums, convert them to MP3's in iTunes (I know) and resync.

iTunes Match was a complete debacle for me when it launched, and then iOS 7's music player - I used to think of them as the best company for music, since their iPods are the entire reason I ended up with iPhones (and then Macs), but sadly this opinion is fading.
 
Has the Music app been fixed in iOS 8?

Oh, one more thing, I had my music library get pretty borked (album art and such) when upgrading to iOS 8. Simply unchecking the music and resyncing didn't do it for me. What I ended up doing was a "factory reset" (it re-downloads iOS 8) and then a restore.



After that, my music and album art sync'd... OKish. A few iTunes purchased albums - just 4 to be exact, but it was enough - they messed up the Albums list. They appeared in the right place, but they'd put the "R" designation above an album by an "A" artist. That made the navigation by letter nonfunctional. Broken. Kaput. It ceased to be. The only way I could fix it, finally, was to remove those albums, convert them to MP3's in iTunes (I know) and resync.



iTunes Match was a complete debacle for me when it launched, and then iOS 7's music player - I used to think of them as the best company for music, since their iPods are the entire reason I ended up with iPhones (and then Macs), but sadly this opinion is fading.


I agree with your last paragraph. In fact, your comment is encouraging me to get a refurbished iPod Video (my favorite one) and putting an SSD in it, rather than getting a new iPhone 6.

Nowadays the music experience is so broken in the Apple ecosystem.
 
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Because we need the Artist view to be By Artist/By Album. Not one or the other.

This.

If I go to say, Grateful Dead, it doesn't list the albums I have on there. I lists all the songs by album (of which I have over 60) so if I want to listen to a particular show I have to scroll scroll scroll to get to it.

Pretty basic concept.
 
At the risk of spamming these forums (I've posted this in a few other threads, sorry if you are seeing it repeatedly), I too have a collection with many albums per artist and have been frustrated with the Artist view adopted in iOS7.

So fed up in fact, I decided to just create my own solution. I've missed my initial iOS8 target, but my app should be going in to beta in the next week or two, and will hopefully be in the App Store soon. Check out the images below.

Cheers!
Mike

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At the risk of spamming these forums (I've posted this in a few other threads, sorry if you are seeing it repeatedly), I too have a collection with many albums per artist and have been frustrated with the Artist view adopted in iOS7.



So fed up in fact, I decided to just create my own solution. I've missed my initial iOS8 target, but my app should be going in to beta in the next week or two, and will hopefully be in the App Store soon. Check out the images below.



Cheers!

Mike



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