Pretty silly of me. It will be called Cesium, but I wouldn't bother searching for it just yet. Nothing has been distributed yet.
Only a couple more bugs to go...
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Has the Music app been fixed in iOS 8?
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Pretty silly of me. It will be called Cesium, but I wouldn't bother searching for it just yet. Nothing has been distributed yet.
Only a couple more bugs to go...
It goes beyond that. Not only does Apple not provide that functionality, but they haven't opened access to developers, either. So for 3rd party apps, technically I can provide you the functionality to set up those albums in your queue, but I can't actually access the queue itself, meaning that I can't actually show you what albums you have set. Pretty dumb.
inb4 "Other apps can do this!" Yes they can, but lets just say it's colouring a bit outside the lines. The only official way to do this is to abandon the system player take over control of all playback within the app, which means all sorts of things like background playback go away.
It looks like you're creating a really nice app. As many people here, I was quite upset with the changes in iOS 7 and more disappointed by the fact they've done nothing in the latest version of iOS.
To me, the music app worked perfectly in iOS 6 and before. In fact, it was a perfect evolution from the iPod, which many of us had used for years and years. To change it so drastically in iOS7/8 to the endless list was an abomination.
Your app looks great, but there's already one available that does pretty much everything you're going to do. It's called Picky and it's in the app store. It's great. It's just like the old Music app and allows you to even choose how you sort the albums (by title, chronological, reverse chronological, etc.)
Give it a try. I promise you won't be disappointed. I've been using it since last autumn and have been a very happy camper. Also, the developer is a very nice guy and quite responsive. I've mailed him several requests, some of which he added to the app including "Up Next" and sorting by album artist, etc.
+1 on Picky. It was my default player until Cesium was at a point it could take over. Your points are all sound (especially re: dev, he's great), and it's a far more full featured app than mine will be. It's just a passion project for myself, and if others prefer it, than I'll be glad to have helped
+1 on Picky. It was my default player until Cesium was at a point it could take over. Your points are all sound (especially re: dev, he's great), and it's a far more full featured app than mine will be. It's just a passion project for myself, and if others prefer it, than I'll be glad to have helped
I would love to try yours out too especially if the app respects the "sort" fields. Those are critical for me. But it looks really nice and I look forward to it being available.
+1 on Picky. It was my default player until Cesium was at a point it could take over. Your points are all sound (especially re: dev, he's great), and it's a far more full featured app than mine will be. It's just a passion project for myself, and if others prefer it, than I'll be glad to have helped
Will it be a free or paid app?
It absolutely respects the sort fields. I use the album sort field to arrange my album chronologically (so that items with the same year appear chronologically and not alphabetically).
Is there a particular functionality you are looking for?
Besides that? Access to iTunes Match music (and the ability to hide those songs as well). Sometimes I like to see my full list when data is no issue; other times, I just prefer to see what's on the device.
OH and a great icon that makes the app look like a music player.
I'd be happy to help you out with beta testing if needed. I also help out Charles with Picky and use it as my main player.
I like Picky much more than the iOS music player (OK, easy comparison) but my biggest beef with Picky is that it's a phone app, not a universal app, which could support master/detail views. I went 128GB on the iPad mini and have most of my music there. (It doesn't all fit; I have nearly 17,000 tracks running about 120 "real" GB.)
I also really miss being able to view by genre, which Picky also doesn't support. Genre -> Artist -> Albums -> Songs would make my music browsing and selection a lot easier.
I'm really looking forward to trying out Cesium.
As for all the sync problems, yeeeesh. Between iTunes and sync issues, I really don't want to get started on that one. Apple never did understand classical, or that some people really want to edit and "fix" the metadata on iTunes-purchased music.
I also really miss being able to view by genre, which Picky also doesn't support. Genre -> Artist -> Albums -> Songs would make my music browsing and selection a lot easier.
I'm really looking forward to trying out Cesium.
As for all the sync problems, yeeeesh. Between iTunes and sync issues, I really don't want to get started on that one. Apple never did understand classical, or that some people really want to edit and "fix" the metadata on iTunes-purchased music.
Sounds like it might be similar to this: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6541755?tstart=0
Time to draw a line in the sand! I've kept a few features up my sleeve for possible future release, because if I keep debating and exploring this thing will never get out.
That said, I'm going to open Cesium up to beta, and would welcome interested testers.
If interested, you will need to provide me your iPhone UDID as well as a working email. The UDID simply restricts the devices the app can run on, and I will only have access to Cesium crash logs, as provided by testers. No phishing, 3rd party access, etc.
If you'd like to volunteer, send me a PM and I will send you instruction on how to find your UDID.
Thank you all,
Mike
EDIT - once I get to 25 posts and PMing goes live...
That said, I'm going to open Cesium up to beta, and would welcome interested testers.
If interested, you will need to provide me your iPhone UDID as well as a working email. The UDID simply restricts the devices the app can run on, and I will only have access to Cesium crash logs, as provided by testers. No phishing, 3rd party access, etc.
If you'd like to volunteer, send me a PM and I will send you instruction on how to find your UDID.
Thank you all,
Mike
EDIT - once I get to 25 posts and PMing goes live...
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I don't understand.
"Horrid UI" is not a bug, and there was any other mention of an actual bug.
What's the problem?
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If you're going through the proper means (ie. TestFlight) I'm pretty sure you don't need a UDID do you? From what I remember using TF, you only needed the email address to send the invite to.
Hi Dan!
This is the case for iTunes Connect users. Apple hasn't opened up TF to external testers yet. It's supposed to happen soon
I think it's more about usability. I find some of the UI choices in the new music app quite baffling.
But to each their own. If it's working for you, that's great!
Hi Dan!
This is the case for iTunes Connect users. Apple hasn't opened up TF to external testers yet. It's supposed to happen soon
Makes sense.
I don't have issues with the Music app. In fact, iOS6 wasn't very nice.
I've never said that the terrible UI was a bug.
If you have doubts on why everybody hates the new Music app, read the previous pages.
When someone says the Music app is broke, we are not talking about literally not working, because yes the Music app does work, it just does not work to it's full potential and is certainly a huge step backwards from the Music app on IOS6.
The current Music app is not user friendly and it takes way too many steps to do what took seconds to do with iOS6 music app.
Apple just did not factor into the current Music app, users who have 50 to 100 albums by a single artist. I have an artist with 102 albums, going into the artist tab at the bottom leaves the user with a cascading of albums with nothing in order and to find the album you want out of 102 is nothing but a cascading mess. I was never this flustered with the Music app on iOS6 with the same 102 albums from a single artist.
The current Music app is not user friendly and it takes way too many steps to do what took seconds to do with iOS6 music app.
Apple just did not factor into the current Music app, users who have 50 to 100 albums by a single artist. I have an artist with 102 albums, going into the artist tab at the bottom leaves the user with a cascading of albums with nothing in order and to find the album you want out of 102 is nothing but a cascading mess. I was never this flustered with the Music app on iOS6 with the same 102 albums from a single artist.
No, it doesn't. I listen to music a lot, and I've spent enough time with the Music app to know that more often than desired it won't play songs, it'll display glitches, etc.
Awful app.
Well I can only speak for myself, iPhone 5 w/ iOS 8.0.2
I have over 5,000 songs in my iTunes library and they all play on my iPhone. The major problem I am having now is the synching issue, when I synch it removes songs and artwork but only about 500 or 600 of the 5,000. I had to do a full restore and then it put back all my songs and artwork, I resynched again couple days later and it removed songs and artwork again, had to restore got back all my songs and artwork, took hours....until Apple fixes the synch issue I will not be synching my iPhone to iTunes any longer.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6541755?start=0&tstart=0
Music Failures syncing with or without iTunes Match
I'm having the same issue. On iOS 7, I was testing iTunes match and it was horrid, so I only ran it on one device, my phone. On iOS 8, my iPad (not iTunes match enabled) is constantly syncing music away. I got on a plane on Thursday, plugged in my headphones intending to listen to music (my preferred playback device because of the better battery life) and my music was gone. I've been syncing, removing all music from the device via Setting -> Usage -> Storage Usage -> Music and re-syncing and trying to resync it all back. I get at most 9 albums of the over 300 I have.
On the plus side, iTunes match seems to be working again (mostly), which hasn't really worked for me since iOS 6. Although this morning, I did have a few tracks suddenly missing after sync, as downloadable from the cloud. Much better than iOS 7, where I'd have tracks doubled up which is a really bad experience trying to listen to an album.
All of this makes me want to go back to an iPod Classic (discontinued).
I'm having the same issue. On iOS 7, I was testing iTunes match and it was horrid, so I only ran it on one device, my phone. On iOS 8, my iPad (not iTunes match enabled) is constantly syncing music away. I got on a plane on Thursday, plugged in my headphones intending to listen to music (my preferred playback device because of the better battery life) and my music was gone. I've been syncing, removing all music from the device via Setting -> Usage -> Storage Usage -> Music and re-syncing and trying to resync it all back. I get at most 9 albums of the over 300 I have.
On the plus side, iTunes match seems to be working again (mostly), which hasn't really worked for me since iOS 6. Although this morning, I did have a few tracks suddenly missing after sync, as downloadable from the cloud. Much better than iOS 7, where I'd have tracks doubled up which is a really bad experience trying to listen to an album.
All of this makes me want to go back to an iPod Classic (discontinued).
There was a fix posted late in that thread that worked for me and several others-removing ALL non-music files from your library folder. It may be necessary to restore the phone as well.
All Apple had to do was use the exact same player from iOS 6 and flatten it (or whatever). Jony Ive just had to dab his little fingers in the music app and ruin it for all. It's a pain to use this app with 200+ albums. Other music players don't work as well since they aren't integrated.
You can edit the icons so that it opens artist, albums, or whatever instead of iTunes Radio.
I saw that post but what does that mean, remove all non music files? So remove everything that doesn't end in .m4a and .mp3? So remove all my video files too? not sure I understand what to remove. It doesn't make sense that the customer has to figure out how to get it to synch when it synched just fine with iOS 6 & 7. I wish I had stayed on iOS 7.