Has the Music app been fixed in iOS 8?

[Errk!]

I saw that post but what does that mean, remove all non music files? So remove everything that doesn't end in .m4a and .mp3? So remove all my video files too? not sure I understand what to remove. It doesn't make sense that the customer has to figure out how to get it to synch when it synched just fine with iOS 6 & 7. I wish I had stayed on iOS 7.

I agree, but it is what it is. At least there IS a fix.

And yes, remove anything that is not a supported audio file. M4A and MP3 are ok obviously, but AIFF and WAV are supported so those are ok if you have them.

One user said he had some playlist files and some PDFs. I myself had a couple of EPUB files.

You don't have to delete them, of course. Just move them. They just can't be in your music library folder.

 

[Brammy]

Does ANYONE like the landscape "cover flow" type view in the Music app? I think its absolutely worthless.

In my car, when charging, it's pretty much impossible to prop my iPhone up in portrait mode (without a mount). But my mount looks so much better in landscape, too. So why make the music app so non-car-friendly in landscape mode?

I hate that. It's a mess.

 

[iRock1]

Well I can only speak for myself, iPhone 5 w/ iOS 8.0.2
I have over 5,000 songs in my iTunes library and they all play on my iPhone. The major problem I am having now is the synching issue, when I synch it removes songs and artwork but only about 500 or 600 of the 5,000. I had to do a full restore and then it put back all my songs and artwork, I resynched again couple days later and it removed songs and artwork again, had to restore got back all my songs and artwork, took hours....until Apple fixes the synch issue I will not be synching my iPhone to iTunes any longer.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6541755?start=0&tstart=0

I'm having the same issue. On iOS 7, I was testing iTunes match and it was horrid, so I only ran it on one device, my phone. On iOS 8, my iPad (not iTunes match enabled) is constantly syncing music away. I got on a plane on Thursday, plugged in my headphones intending to listen to music (my preferred playback device because of the better battery life) and my music was gone. I've been syncing, removing all music from the device via Setting -> Usage -> Storage Usage -> Music and re-syncing and trying to resync it all back. I get at most 9 albums of the over 300 I have.



On the plus side, iTunes match seems to be working again (mostly), which hasn't really worked for me since iOS 6. Although this morning, I did have a few tracks suddenly missing after sync, as downloadable from the cloud. Much better than iOS 7, where I'd have tracks doubled up which is a really bad experience trying to listen to an album.



All of this makes me want to go back to an iPod Classic (discontinued).

Oh, iTunes Match...

There is only one place worse than that hell called Music.app, and it's iTunes Match.

I've been a subscriber since it was released, and I can tell you that my experience with it, specially working together with the new Music.app, has been terrible. But you probably know how it is.

So I just got tired and bought a sealed, brand-new iPod Video 5.5G. I haven't received it yet, but as someone who loved those times when one could listen to his music without any sort of complication, I'm sure I'll be more than satisfied using that instead of the awful media player that the iPhone turned into.

 

[jonnyb098]

All Apple had to do was use the exact same player from iOS 6 and flatten it (or whatever). Jony Ive just had to dab his little fingers in the music app and ruin it for all. It's a pain to use this app with 200+ albums. Other music players don't work as well since they aren't integrated.

I love how everyone thinks Jony Ive is sitting there designing apps. Proof no one here knows anything about design processes so let me enlighten the unenlightened.

Jony provides overall aesthetic direction, that's ALL. He goes through a high level direction of what things should look like. Overall feel.

What he IS NOT doing is sitting here tinkering with how the music app looks or works. It's a much more collaborative process. If anyone is to blame it's Craig and the managers below him.

 

[Zimmy68]

I love how everyone thinks Jony Ive is sitting there designing apps. Proof no one here knows anything about design processes so let me enlighten the unenlightened.

Jony provides overall aesthetic direction, that's ALL. He goes through a high level direction of what things should look like. Overall feel.

What he IS NOT doing is sitting here tinkering with how the music app looks or works. It's a much more collaborative process. If anyone is to blame it's Craig and the managers below him.

No one is expecting him to roll up his sleeve and code.
But he can sure review all native apps that are being installed on iOS, all (10?) of them and either approve or reject.

I'm no UI expert and even I can see the music app has been a joke since ios7.

The minute I would turn the phone in landscape view and saw (at random it seems) 2 things happen... either it goes to a useless coverart grid, or some random album song list other then the one I am playing.
The minute I saw that, there would be a meeting and the "team" would have to explain why it works that way.

If a third party submitted this exact ios8 music app to Apple, it would get rejected, I am sure of it.

 

[jonnyb098]

No one is expecting him to roll up his sleeve and code.
But he can sure review all native apps that are being installed on iOS, all (10?) of them and either approve or reject.

I'm no UI expert and even I can see the music app has been a joke since ios7.

The minute I would turn the phone in landscape view and saw (at random it seems) 2 things happen... either it goes to a useless coverart grid, or some random album song list other then the one I am playing.
The minute I saw that, there would be a meeting and the "team" would have to explain why it works that way.

If a third party submitted this exact ios8 music app to Apple, it would get rejected, I am sure of it.

Once again its not an executive VP's job to review every single app that apple makes. I think he has enough to do with supervising design on all the products you hold in your hands.

And yes, your statement is indeed asking him to roll up his sleeves and start going through all the native apps. Its not his job. That why apple has a ton of managers and teams working on things.

People are barking up the wrong tree. There is a report that just came out highlighting why 8.0.1 was a problem. Apple seems to have some QC issues in software along with internal " turf wars" between teams that cause idiotic things to happen (like why on an iPad now playing screen in the music app cant I use the swipe to go back gesture, still not in iOS 8).

Apple is still a company run by mere mortals who have egos, issues, talent, etc. Its not quite as magical as everyone thinks. These people aren't superhuman or something.

 

[iRock1]

I love how everyone thinks Jony Ive is sitting there designing apps. Proof no one here knows anything about design processes so let me enlighten the unenlightened.

Jony provides overall aesthetic direction, that's ALL. He goes through a high level direction of what things should look like. Overall feel.

What he IS NOT doing is sitting here tinkering with how the music app looks or works. It's a much more collaborative process. If anyone is to blame it's Craig and the managers below him.

And you know all the details about how Jonathan Ive works because...?

 

[jonnyb098]

And you know all the details about how Jonathan Ive works because...?

It's sure of a hell more logical than all the crap people spew on how Jony is personally responsible for the music app problems.

If you know anything about how a business works then this kind of garbage would not be spewing all over this thread. It's physically impossible for one person to be single handidly responsible for what people are accusing him of.

And also years of working on and with design teams is my personal experience I bring to the table. But mostly I'm using logic.....something that many lack around here.

 

[Zimmy68]

Once again its not an executive VP's job to review every single app that apple makes. I think he has enough to do with supervising design on all the products you hold in your hands.

And yes, your statement is indeed asking him to roll up his sleeves and start going through all the native apps. Its not his job. That why apple has a ton of managers and teams working on things.

People are barking up the wrong tree. There is a report that just came out highlighting why 8.0.1 was a problem. Apple seems to have some QC issues in software along with internal " turf wars" between teams that cause idiotic things to happen (like why on an iPad now playing screen in the music app cant I use the swipe to go back gesture, still not in iOS 8).

Apple is still a company run by mere mortals who have egos, issues, talent, etc. Its not quite as magical as everyone thinks. These people aren't superhuman or something.

https://www.apple.com/pr/bios/jonathan-ive.html

As the driving force behind the look and feel of Apple's innovative products

Maybe not an executive VP's job but certainly the SVP of Design? No???


And if the task is too large for him, by all means, delegate it.
I just want it fixed! The music app was one of my favorites, I owned the 1G iPod Touch way before the iPhone.


Poor Scott Forstall is sitting somewhere and saying, wow, at least I glanced at the apps before giving my ok.

 

[jonnyb098]

https://www.apple.com/pr/bios/jonathan-ive.html

Maybe not an executive VP's job but certainly the SVP of Design? No???


And if the task is too large for him, by all means, delegate it.
I just want it fixed! The music app was one of my favorites, I owned the 1G iPod Touch way before the iPhone.


Poor Scott Forstall is sitting somewhere and saying, wow, at least I glanced at the apps before giving my ok.

Ok you just proved my point. He is the driving force for the look and feel. Not for why you hate the music app or why something doesn't work.

Delegation is exactly what happens. There are tons of middle managers at Apple. You really still think its Jony going over everything?

I guess its hard to get through the tunnel vision around here sometimes.

 

[Zimmy68]

Ok you just proved my point. He is the driving force for the look and feel. Not for why you hate the music app or why something doesn't work.

Delegation is exactly what happens. There are tons of middle managers at Apple. You really still think its Jony going over everything?

I guess its hard to get through the tunnel vision around here sometimes.

Keep up with your straw man argument, you are doing great. Really working for you.

The problem with the music app, are you ready? are you sitting down???

It's the design!!!!

Music plays perfectly. It shuffles great. It is one of the few if not only music app that works with iTunes Match.

Ok, do we agree on that or is that too much tunnel vision?

The music app is broken and the design is amateurish.
They either don't know what they are doing or they care almost nothing about it.
Something tells me it is the latter.

I am not sure what your angle is.
Do you think the ios 8 Apple music app a technical marvel that works and looks perfect?
If so, I apologize and won't waste another second arguing.

If you think it isn't the responsibility of the SVP of Design, then we can agree to disagree.
In the world I live in, the "buck stops here" is pretty prevalent.

If you agree that the music app UI is broken and embarassing, then please tell me, who is to blame???

Or you can just answer with...

Oh boy, you proved my point again...

That is working well.

 

[zorinlynx]

I found an amusing bug where songs that have no album art receive random album art in song search mode.

Seeing the Pink Floyd The Wall album cover next to a Celine Dion song made me crack up laughing last night.

...and this breakage is still there in iOS 8.1 beta 2!

 

[jonnyb098]

Keep up with your straw man argument, you are doing great. Really working for you.

The problem with the music app, are you ready? are you sitting down???

It's the design!!!!

Music plays perfectly. It shuffles great. It is one of the few if not only music app that works with iTunes Match.

Ok, do we agree on that or is that too much tunnel vision?

The music app is broken and the design is amateurish.
They either don't know what they are doing or they care almost nothing about it.
Something tells me it is the latter.

I am not sure what your angle is.
Do you think the ios 8 Apple music app a technical marvel that works and looks perfect?
If so, I apologize and won't waste another second arguing.

If you think it isn't the responsibility of the SVP of Design, then we can agree to disagree.
In the world I live in, the "buck stops here" is pretty prevalent.

If you agree that the music app UI is broken and embarassing, then please tell me, who is to blame???

Or you can just answer with...

Oh boy, you proved my point again...

That is working well.

Simple, if its broken its NOT Jony Ive's issue. Thats a software engineering issue.

If you don't like the design, thats your problem, not mine nor anyone at Apple's. I agree it could be better functionally in a couple. But look wise it fits with iOS 7/8 direction and its get the job done 90% of the time for 90% of the people.

If you cant handle it, move to another platform. It's very very old and has been debated for over a year about the UI. Design is very subjective and it will never please everyone. The problem is everyone thinks they're a designer whether its software, hardware, whatever.....and I have full right to say that since I am a designer. Everyone has their freakin' opinion. There's a reason designers are hired to be one, expertise.

If you want to blame Jony Ive for you not liking the look of the music app or that it doesn't have a feature you want, continue to bicker. It wont got you anywhere.

 

[iRock1]

Simple, if its broken its NOT Jony Ive's issue. Thats a software engineering issue.

If you don't like the design, thats your problem, not mine nor anyone at Apple's. I agree it could be better functionally in a couple. But look wise it fits with iOS 7/8 direction and its get the job done 90% of the time for 90% of the people.

If you cant handle it, move to another platform. It's very very old and has been debated for over a year about the UI. Design is very subjective and it will never please everyone. The problem is everyone thinks they're a designer whether its software, hardware, whatever.....and I have full right to say that since I am a designer. Everyone has their freakin' opinion. There's a reason designers are hired to be one, expertise.

If you want to blame Jony Ive for you not liking the look of the music app or that it doesn't have a feature you want, continue to bicker. It wont got you anywhere.

Dude, the awful new design has nothing to do with how nice it looks or whether people find it beautiful or not. It's about usability.

I'm not a designer, but with just a little bit of common sense, I can tell that the new music app lacks usability big time. And it's a huge fail on this regard.

Also, one might like the new design or not in terms of aesthetics, but there are design conventions that the own company is messing with. If you are a designer and not able to see that, then that's what I'd call tunnel vision.

 

[jonnyb098]

Dude, the awful new design has nothing to do with how nice it looks or whether people find it beautiful or not. It's about usability.

I'm not a designer, but with just a little bit of common sense, I can tell that the new music app lacks usability big time. And it's a huge fail on this regard.

Also, one might like the new design or not in terms of aesthetics, but there are design conventions that the own company is messing with. If you are a designer and not able to see that, then that's what I'd call tunnel vision.

Agreed a few things could be cleaned up, but I guess I've just gotten used to it. It's not going to change anytime soon. So it is what it is at this point.

But I still stick by the whole it works 90% of the time for 90% of the people.

In the past month more people have complained about no more camera roll in ios 8 than people have complained about the music app in an entire year. That's life.

 

[Zimmy68]

 

[BillyMatt87]

https://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html

Tell Apple you're unhappy with the music player in iOS. I just did and the only way Apple will know is if we tell them. It worked with the fullscreen caller ID, did it not?

 

[benrd]

As someone above mentioned the landscape mode when in the car is proving a pain for me, i purchased the 128gb iphone 6 so it could be my main ipod too and i mostly use it in the car but via an aux lead at the moment so its a nightmare to change tracks etc.
also impossible for me to put in portrait mode while the phone is charging, not to mention the skip track buttons being tiny on the screen! forever accidently just changing the volume!

I have also noted i could select and album and be playign it in portrait but when i go to landscape mode it is either just showing all albums or is on the album last entered when in landscape, is this normal?

 

[Fuchal]

I'd recommend Picky (http://www.pickyapp.com) - works similar to the iOS 6 app except with nicer UI and features like a play queue. I manage (manually download) my iTunes Match music in the Music app, but then use Picky 100% of the time I spend playing music.

 

[Zimmy68]

As someone above mentioned the landscape mode when in the car is proving a pain for me, i purchased the 128gb iphone 6 so it could be my main ipod too and i mostly use it in the car but via an aux lead at the moment so its a nightmare to change tracks etc.
also impossible for me to put in portrait mode while the phone is charging, not to mention the skip track buttons being tiny on the screen! forever accidently just changing the volume!

I have also noted i could select and album and be playign it in portrait but when i go to landscape mode it is either just showing all albums or is on the album last entered when in landscape, is this normal?

My workaround in the car is to swipe up on the control center and lock the screen orientation.
Not ideal but something to combat the incredible UI disaster that is the Apple music app.

 

[GermanSuplex]

Getting music onto my 6 Plus has been a huge ordeal. I have a fairly large library, but even syncing a few playlists with a few dozen songs seems to take multiple attempts. The syncs are wreaking havoc on my play counts, sometimes
doubling them, other times adding a certain number to the count each time I attempt a sync.

 

[CesiumDev]

Hey all,

For those looking for a new alternative to the music.app, Cesium has been submitted to the App Store for approval. For updates, check out @CesiumApp on Twitter. We should be live in a couple weeks!

Thanks,
Mike

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As someone above mentioned the landscape mode when in the car is proving a pain for me, i purchased the 128gb iphone 6 so it could be my main ipod too and i mostly use it in the car but via an aux lead at the moment so its a nightmare to change tracks etc.
also impossible for me to put in portrait mode while the phone is charging, not to mention the skip track buttons being tiny on the screen! forever accidently just changing the volume!

I have also noted i could select and album and be playign it in portrait but when i go to landscape mode it is either just showing all albums or is on the album last entered when in landscape, is this normal?

Cesium will have togglable full screen gesture controls. Perfect for driving!

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Dude, the awful new design has nothing to do with how nice it looks or whether people find it beautiful or not. It's about usability.

I'm not a designer, but with just a little bit of common sense, I can tell that the new music app lacks usability big time. And it's a huge fail on this regard.

Also, one might like the new design or not in terms of aesthetics, but there are design conventions that the own company is messing with. If you are a designer and not able to see that, then that's what I'd call tunnel vision.

Totally agreed. I've set out to fix this!

 

[RoboWarriorSr]

Hey all,



For those looking for a new alternative to the music.app, Cesium has been submitted to the App Store for approval. For updates, check out @CesiumApp on Twitter. We should be live in a couple weeks!



Thanks,

Mike

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Cesium will have togglable full screen gesture controls. Perfect for driving!

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Totally agreed. I've set out to fix this!

Can you make the album art on 3.5 devices bigger than the current music app? A main pet peeve is the fact that Apple made the album art smaller on 4s. I heard a jailbreak tweaks fixes this but currently iOS 8 does not have a jailbreak.

 

[iRock1]

Has the Music app been fixed in iOS 8?

Hey all,



For those looking for a new alternative to the music.app, Cesium has been submitted to the App Store for approval. For updates, check out @CesiumApp on Twitter. We should be live in a couple weeks!



Thanks,

Mike

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Cesium will have togglable full screen gesture controls. Perfect for driving!

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Totally agreed. I've set out to fix this!

Let us know when it goes live!

In the meantime, I've just purchased a classy iPod Video 5.5G. You can't go wrong with one of those when it comes to listen to music using something that just works.

 

[Mechayoshi]

Okay here's something. Why are these alternate music apps never for ipad?