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Will the Haswell rMBP be announced in September with a dGPU option?


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Yeah - and cost too. They probably have nowhere near Apple's buying power to source retina screens without significantly increasing the price of the notebook. Probably much better margins the way they did it.

Yeah true. They went the apple MBA route for their screens :D
 
I think materials like a screen are responsible for fairly little of the Razer's BOM. A retina back then wasn't an option but some decent display would have been.
Maybe the problem was availability and there is very little out there for 14". Since it is a very small volume notebook they couldn't just order what they need and had to go with what LG/AUO/Samsung was selling anyway to somebody. They should have grown it a little to fit 15.6" which would allow for more choice.

Even with 14" they could have done better than this. Afaik there are also no 14" IGZO Panels in the making. Maybe they should just grow it a little with a small bezel until it fits a 15.6" and fill the added space with more battery packs.
 
If they drop a discreet graphics card from the mix in a rMBP they will need to either boost the entry level memory or drop the price significantly.

Personally more the I read about it I think we'll see Iris Pro 5200 as the graphics cards though they'll need to drop the price because I wont be paying top $$$ for a professional laptop with an integrated graphics cards.
 
Odd, everything I've read about the GT 760M pegs it at 50-55 watts. Unless you're talking about the ps for the entire notebook?
I meant the whole machine, the w230st comes with the 120w psu, the msi ge40 the same thing, razer says noobs and use a 150w
17" macbook can use 775M because the 18" alienware use dual 780M
and? take a look at the insides of the m18x, m17x, p170sm, p150sm... and compare the amount of copper that they use, the thickness of the heat pipe and the size of the fan
The screen is the reason I don't have the blade right now, and I don't even game!
same here
I agree completely it is quite beautiful and very welcome competition as it is probably the first to really compare to the rMBP in the past year. With 8 hours of battery life and a 765M though, one questions how much the TDP really hurts it. The obvious comparison would say that because it has a normal HD screen (non-retina) that is why it achieves 8 hours, like the rMBP. I think the Razer Blade will be a beast with broadwell. Even more performance and I'm sure they'd put a better screen in by then.

Im waiting for the r2 version, and the battery life is 6h, do remember to disable steam on the nvidia control panel or the 765m stays engaged... yes optimus is dumb.

and don't trust notebook check, use it with a large mountain of salt

I guess so. I suppose this is one reason why they can stick a 765 in the Razer, because it doesn't have a magical retina display requiring that extra power.

not really, they can stick it in because the psu is 150w, thats a very large difference from the paltry 85w that apple uses.

aside that they would go for IGZO like everyone else and from the kirabook battery life, I don't think they rose coloured the energy consumption that much

Yeah - and cost too. They probably have nowhere near Apple's buying power to source retina screens without significantly increasing the price of the notebook. Probably much better margins the way they did it.
indeed, they are a very small ODM, you had to see how much time it took for them to get the orders through, though I do think that thing sold quite well. it took them nearly 2 months for it to have some form of availability and its still fluctuating. they only recently started selling on amazon, I mean really selling
I think materials like a screen are responsible for fairly little of the Razer's BOM. A retina back then wasn't an option but some decent display would have been.
Maybe the problem was availability and there is very little out there for 14". Since it is a very small volume notebook they couldn't just order what they need and had to go with what LG/AUO/Samsung was selling anyway to somebody. They should have grown it a little to fit 15.6" which would allow for more choice.

Even with 14" they could have done better than this. Afaik there are also no 14" IGZO Panels in the making. Maybe they should just grow it a little with a small bezel until it fits a 15.6" and fill the added space with more battery packs.
there are IGZO 14 panels and they are being produced right now, if I remember correctly the HP 14" zbook will have it, the envy 14 as well, there are also others that are lining up for it

but I really do think it wasn't available at the time, and they gave the excuse of the response time for choosing that screen, I would still use the x1carbon panel. people are now trying to mod the screen and use that exact screen.
If they drop a discreet graphics card from the mix in a rMBP they will need to either boost the entry level memory or drop the price significantly.

Personally more the I read about it I think we'll see Iris Pro 5200 as the graphics cards though they'll need to drop the price because I wont be paying top $$$ for a professional laptop with an integrated graphics cards.
depends on your definition of professional and what it does deliver to your workload the absence of the gpu
 
Whether that trend is a good sign remains to be seen. Usually among the homo so called sapiens population intelligence inversely correlates with the number of people trying to merge their wisdom.
 
Whether that trend is a good sign remains to be seen. Usually among the homo so called sapiens population intelligence inversely correlates with the number of people trying to merge their wisdom.

Hence invalidating, well, every poll on Macrumors. :D
 
every poll on macrumours is automatically invalidated if any statistical analysis is applied

Well, not quite, but dusk007 was basically saying the same thing, as if a MR poll is having any influence on Apple. ;)
 
And if the Haswell MBPs have dGPUs? ;)

Then I will eat crow and be sufficiently (and pleasantly) surprised, and will be happy to admit to it. But the overwhelming preponderance of the evidence/hints, as well as common sense, suggest that there won't be dGPUs, and that believing otherwise is just wishful thinking.
 
Then I will eat crow and be sufficiently (and pleasantly) surprised, and will be happy to admit to it. But the overwhelming preponderance of the evidence/hints, as well as common sense, suggest that there won't be dGPUs, and that believing otherwise is just wishful thinking.
I like to think of it as, childlike hope.
 
then we will have to deal with crap like this: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1647804/

There we go, the perfect example of why the dGPU is on its way out in the laptop line. For many users it represents a mysterious demon in the machine that eats battery without warning. It's poor user experience, and we know what Apple's likely to do in that case, even at the cost of raw performance...
 
Lol, you'd be surprised how little my name relates to Crack Cocaine, or the racist slur Cracker
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tell me more

unless you are going to tell me there is no dgpu

them don't
 
Then I will eat crow and be sufficiently (and pleasantly) surprised, and will be happy to admit to it. But the overwhelming preponderance of the evidence/hints, as well as common sense, suggest that there won't be dGPUs, and that believing otherwise is just wishful thinking.

I'm gonna love this. :D
 
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