Definitely october. I think it will be an iGPU, but I hope so badly that they stick with dGPUs for the 15"
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Haswell Prediction Poll: Sept? dGPU?
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There was a September and October event last year, so I can definitely see October being a busy month. Maybe there will be a bombshell in a few weeks. Maybe not. Only time will tell. All we can do is keep posting. Here on this thread.
If Apple does not use a dGPU, how will the current 15'' rMBP with 650m stack up against the haswell rMBP (if they use iGPU only)? (in terms of overall power and also gaming)
October iGPU only.
Why Iris 5200 (developed by Intel to satisfy an Apple request, due to lack of power to run retina applications with standard Intel HD x000 iGPU) if Apple sticks with dGPU?
There's just a small, tiny, possibility: Iris 5200 developed for the 13" line with a processor that, as for now, it's not announced yet.
But I think chances are far higher than 13" will come with 5100 and 15" with 5200. It makes sense, it's easier and obvious.
Why Iris 5200 (developed by Intel to satisfy an Apple request, due to lack of power to run retina applications with standard Intel HD x000 iGPU) if Apple sticks with dGPU?
There's just a small, tiny, possibility: Iris 5200 developed for the 13" line with a processor that, as for now, it's not announced yet.
But I think chances are far higher than 13" will come with 5100 and 15" with 5200. It makes sense, it's easier and obvious.
In my opinion, that's been covered as much as humanly possible here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1559562/
Ya, but that thread is 300 pages, I don't have time to read em all, I was hoping someone who knew could give me a 1 sentence summary to answer my question.
Ya, but that thread is 300 pages, I don't have time to read em all, I was hoping someone who knew could give me a 1 sentence summary to answer my question.
Not gonna happen. Cuz that 1 sentence will be followed up, contradicted, agreed with, and contradicted again with 100s of other posts, til you realize that the question won't be answered until the Apple event.
Open CL performing is better all around.
Gaming is about the same, as long as you don't run 1080p. At 1440x900, you should notice the same performance. We'll have to wait and see.
It'd be interesting to see how real-life tests stack up against benchmarks. I'm looking forward to it.
Remind me again the points on the side of Iris Pro only? Did anyone notice the MBA has Intel HD 5000. Why would it even be in question that the rMBP 15" would have Intel HD 4600 (and dGPU) - but still HD 4600 by default.
Because quad cores have the 4600. 4600 makes since because of a low power iGPU + dGPU. 5200 is high powered and more expensive, thus making it basically redundant to have a dGPU of today's standards.
750m is basically an overclocked 650M and rebranded.
Also, with iGPU, you can allocate the system RAM to be Graphics RAM. It's not the same as VRAM, but it works. The more ram, the better. 5200 has less memory bottle necks than every before.
It also decreases the TDP completel. rMBP 15" was like 90w before? With a 47w TDP CPU and no dGPU, it could be maybe 60w TDP for the entire machine. Better battery life for the same battery size.
Got it. I'll be disagreeing with that. Feel free to join the discussion in the Waiting for Haswell thread. I'll be bringing up both sides through people's posts from months ago.
Short rebuttal: I don't think iGPU sifting at system RAM isn't even close to VRAM which you get from a dGPU (DDR5), plus CPU and Iris Pro would be competing for System Ram at the same time (during peak usage this could get screwy inconsistent).
Yes, if they decide to make the 15" rMBP a big MBA then they could go Iris Pro.
Battery life wouldn't be better except during CPU + GPU peaks, which already eliminates battery in 2-3 hours anyway. You'd be saving very minimal battery, maybe adding 30 mins to it, by eliminating a dGPU. In non dGPU situations, battery life would be the same.
Agreement point: Iris Pro doesn't suck quite as much as previous Intel graphics.
History repeats its ugly face.
Just gonna silent update the CPU like they did the airs but without a press mess. Right? Not holding my breath, but gonna wait or 2014 to spend my 5000 dollars saved up already - baby! Yeah!
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..."doesn't suck quite as much..." So.... basically does suck though yeah?
Just gonna silent update the CPU like they did the airs but without a press mess. Right? Not holding my breath, but gonna wait or 2014 to spend my 5000 dollars saved up already - baby! Yeah!
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..."doesn't suck quite as much..." So.... basically does suck though yeah?
I'm sure VC doesn't mean Iris Pro sucks in every way imaginable. This is what causes the controversy.
As integrated graphics go, Iris Pro is a huge leap in performance, nipping at the heels of the past year's dGPU offering.As an exhaustive replacement for a dGPU - and depending on which dGPU you compare it to, there are definitely a couple weak spots. But then again, it's an iGPU!
Yep. There are still many things that would suffer with Iris Pro only. Rendering for instance, would take a hit
It is, to my own knowledge, that SSD prices haven't dropped very much at all over the past year, so most people think that the storage placement will stay the same throughout the 13 and 15 inch.
This and though seemingly unrelated... Apple is now giving more "cloud" enable apps away with the 5S (iWork). Perhaps the same will happen with the OSX counterparts one day.
I still insist that Apple wants you to put everything "up there" and one day buy more storage space. (Just like a data plan).
