You're the one who posted,
here, that you felt your poll was enough to draw a meaningful conclusion. I didn't say it, you did:
I wouldn't say exactly that, but if you read it was framed in reference to the other existent polls, or which there was a lot relaly asking around the same question, like/no-like and I thought this was better approach.
If it's still not clear what I am trying to do is sample the same sentiment distributed across multiple Tahoe topics specifically with regards to reverting/re-installing previous OS before Tahoe, into one topic, as a topic, by means of a poll.
There is much anecdote which I am sure you have seen, I'm trying to count and get a handle on the ratio.
In terms of help the debate, is a polite way of saying, yank it out of the aren't we all great we're all just sharing our opinions group hug fest, that passes for "debate".
Know wha I'm sayin'?
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These polls happen all the time here and typically I ignore them. It's only because you stated there could be some representative validity to the numbers that I replied at all. Just have fun with it, but don't pretend it's somehow more than that.
Seriously, these polls are meant for fun. Don't try to impress anyone here that this is going to "help the debate." Just let it be what it is, a silly counter of random opinions from random people.
Well I didn't, it was this post that asserted this and only the 3rd post in see
here
Which was cleary being a little disingenuous, but the poll and OP need made no claims of any grandeur, I was happy ot hear there are allegedly over 1 million MR users. That's good going for any website.
This was the OP first paragraph, as I outlined I wanted to try consolidate or capture I suppose a better snapshot of this recurring anecdote of those who tried it and then rollback for clarity. I think it's useful, and a less subjective measure. Thank again, like/no-like.
"Throughout all the Tahoe sentiment topics, there are endless posts from users who switched back to at least the previous macOS after spending some time on one or more beta or RC versions of Tahoe (or are waiting it out on theri current macOS versions) - on balance to have that market metric in one place seems like a good idea, and clarifying, as opposed to another do you like do you not like poll, this is a more tangible and consequential of real world day to day use case metrics."
But then you ask where I would conduct a more rigorous poll (which you refer to as a "perfect poll, scientifically speaking.") Answer is, not here. Not online where respondents are a self-selecting group (people who clicked one of the votes) within a larger self-selecting group (people who clicked a link to read this thread) within an even larger self-selecting group (people who are registered MR forum users) which is itself within a self-selecting group that is even larger still (people who visited MR during the duration of this poll being posted).
There's nothing remotely valid of such a poll.
I'm curious, why would you survey non-mac users about Tahoe?
If I really wanted to know the answers, I would have to do what actual polling organizations do - namely, reach out by phone to a truly random sample of people and contact them to ask whether they use Macs and if so, have they reverted to an older version of the MacOS after trying Tahoe.
In order to get a statistically representative (and therefore accurate) number, such as polling organization would probably have to contact many thousands of people. Might be expensive!
So if you're "resource poor," don't have the time, don't want to pay Gallup or some other polling company to find your answers, that's totally cool. No one begrudges that. Accurate polling matters because it's difficult, time consuming and expensive. Online polls are free, and you get what you pay for.
Ah, as you acknowledge I did deal with this, but I never claimed to be running a poll beyond MR or aspiring to something grater than the MR sandbox.
I thought I was having a bit of fun, in said sandbox tbh.
My only point is that there's no real world validity to the numbers an online poll would result in, so maybe don't pretend there is going to be "a common shared insight" that will "help the debate."
In terms of MR which is the frame of the poll, there is value, if even for clarity within the general active group.
To repeat (sorry!) I never claimed the poll was anything greater than MR, maybe some phrasing implied something, where I might have used the phrase "market metric" but in no way implying this was the global market, but MR is a subset of the market, and I'd say probably niche to whatever extent, but I dunno, are so many things like this not already self evident and implied if not even explicit?
Now this is a totally rhetorical point, because there is a pattern here, one I wonder does anyone else find there is a reflex to overly explain things triggered by a lack of awareness of the general self evidence of thing before them?
It's a real heat generator, which is a mega time waste. I'd rather debate, but...
Seriously, these things are meant for fun. No one should pretend, as the comment above did, that there's anything more to them than that. Have fun. Peace out.
I agree, but I think post number 3 put you on the wrong spin.
Did the Poll/OP jump to a conclusion?
I thought I was polling the Tahoe forum. Nothing else.
If anyone thought it was more than this, then they must have made a mistake.
