No, for the same reason you can't play a DVD on a CD drive.
They did do that for HD-DVD however; they made "combo" DVD-HD-DVD discs with HD-DVD on one side and regular DVD on the other. It was met with apathy and great disinterest.
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HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray Battle Over? Warner Switches to Blu-Ray
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No, for the same reason you can't play a DVD on a CD drive.
They did do that for HD-DVD however; they made "combo" DVD-HD-DVD discs with HD-DVD on one side and regular DVD on the other. It was met with apathy and great disinterest.
If you have so much room on the disk why not fit more info on it. If the majority of people have standard def dvd players why not just push everything HD and drop the standard def. Then people can upgrade the player instead of the disk. If they are saying that Blu-Ray has so much more room, Why not make it a duel boot disk. Standard DVD on one side and Blu-Ray on the other. Just do away with normal DVD's now and force people to upgrade.
Can't you duel encode a disk so that a normal player reads the standard version and the HD reads the HD version.
I have 80 region free Blu-rays. Blu-ray is not controlled by Sony. Stop spreading FUD. Go over to wikipedia and take a look if you don't believe the BDA site.
http://www.blu-raydisc.com/bluray_site.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc_Association
Do you prefer DVD or HD-DVD which are controlled by Toshiba?
Marlor said:
The vast majority of people don't care, despite the technical superiority of the newer technologies. The only way that Blu-Ray could win would be to offer hybrid Blu-Ray/DVD releases for the same price as standard DVDs (i.e. to make people adopt the format by stealth). Until then, both these technologies will just be for Home Theatre wonks
I don't agree with you guys. I don't think you realize just how fast people are jumping on the HD TV train. Some are simply buying upconverters to make their current library look "ok",… some (like me) have attached a computer (mac mini) to their HD TV which upconverts the a regular DVD… but most are wanting true HD content. I am waiting to buy -- I'd like Blu-Ray to come down a little in price. The one I'm considering is at Sam's Wholesale for about $350 -- would like a little cheaper, but would jump on it today if New Line Cinema came out with a Blu-Ray collection of Lord of the Rings.spot on.
By the time Feb '09 gets here (FCC thing) -- we're gonna see some incredible prices on plasmas and LCDs and HD players will become the norm. We've got about a year and plain DVDs will start their slow march off the cliff, Lemmings-style.
You're missing the point.
Even though CDs, DVDs, SACDs, DVD-As, Blu-Rays, and HD-DVDs are all 5" shiny optical discs, they are not the same.
CD -> DVD -> Blu-Ray/HD-DVD
A CD hold 640mb of data. DVD increased that by making the data denser and introduced a 2nd layer. Blu-Ray/HD-DVD got even more dense over DVD.
A CD player cannot physically read what's on a DVD. That's why you need a DVD drive not a CD drive. The CD's laser and optical pickup can't make sense of the DVD.
Similarly, a DVD player cannot physically read what's on either a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD disc. It can't read what's on there. No worko. You needa the new opticalo driveo.
It's very basic. The formats are physically different. You cannot have forward compatibility.
The HD-DVD camp tried dual-sided discs and it was a smashing non-event.
Yeah... HD-DVD "supports" DRM. But if we let a movie studio controlled format dominate, just imagine. That's all. Toshiba is strictly a hardware company and isn't as biased, as say Sony would be.
From what I can tell, that was due to poor implementation. Instead of selling a single combo disc, they sold it in addition to and at a higher price than a standard DVD.
Odd, I was going to comment that you're being unnecessarily caustic with people, but after rereading a few of these, I guess I'd simply have to agree and leave it at that.
I've been arguing HD-DVD hybrids as a non-feature for a while. It'd be super-awesome if somehow the format could magically down-sample itself through some type of media abstraction mechanism when played on a DVD player, but the "support it"/"don't support it" nature of the double implementation makes the notion useless to me. I'm a huge fan of consistency. If someone told me my iPhone had visual voicemail, but only for people who left me a message from supported cellphones or cellular networks... I'd call that a non-feature too, and move on.
I don't think there's a "war" going on, there's just a huge collection of vendors/studios digging themselves into a big hole and hoping consumers don't notice. I think in the end, Warner's move to not release TotalHD was a good one, and this latest announcement was yet another sign that they realize the entire HD format adoption is being retarded by consumer confusion.
Here's hoping both Paramount AND Universal have market-based exit clauses in their exclusivity contracts. They would be utterly foolish if they did not.
~ CB
same exact boat here..probably go pick up a PS3 this weekend. Like most of us, its a bit less about which format and more about A SINGLE FORMAT.
Sorry, just a nit-pick...I download my HD from the internet anyway. I could care less about HD-DVD or Blu-ray. I won't be purchasing any of those formats.
Here is for everyone's reference! Enjoy!!
Who uses recordable DVD for anything but temporary storage? Recordable removable media is long dead as a storage format, and the capacity of Blu-Ray changes nothing. Hard drive space is cheap and getting cheaper all the time. A spare drive is a far, far better backup and storage solution than Blu-Ray.
How about now?
Lies, Inc has a link to a 2 for 1 Blu-ray deal with 3 pages of content. I got a few in celebration...
I enjoy the interface of HD DVD more than blu-ray. And yes, keep in mind this announcement is for Warner for their release of movies.
HD DVD with 15 gigs, can have roughly 6-8 hours of video. This is plenty for any movie out there, i have yet to watch a film that is 6 hours long. Storage is indeed a non-issue for movies that are professionally released by studios.
It is really between, the consumer buying a studio disc, vs. the consumer creating their own discs, either video or data, which has nothing to do with this announcement.
The storage debate is only for people who want to do data or produce their own discs, and in this case, blu-ray is better. But for which is better to watch a feature film on, they are the same, because both will take up the same space regardless of how much you can put on the disc.
Of course Blu-Ray is going to end up winning. Why choose something with less memory when you can have more?
Maybe because that extra memory isn't needed? Your paying more for storage that will never be used...at least in films.
I'd rather have cheaper HD-DVD players that have the same quality as expensive blu-ray players. HD-DVD replication costs less too.
You're almost missing this week's deal at Target for a Blu-Ray player for $289. Note: It is the player in the link it's just not the same price as in the store.
Just to clarify this as a PS3 and 1080p plasma owner.
PS3 has been doing 1080p and 720p effortlessly since launch. Infact it bests all the other HD players quite easily. Near instant startup times to perfect pristine 1080p with 24 frames a second support. Even all of Sony's own Blu ray only players arent as good as the PS3. Best of all its future compatible.
Its definately one of the key factors why Blu Ray is winning since PS3 is such a good device to showcase. Although even standalone Blu ray players are now outselling HDDVD ones. It would be nice to see Apple add Blu ray to their devices but its still going to be a high end affair for those who want to pay extra for the quality.
It might have a decent Blu-ray player, but it's a lame gaming machine. The Xbox 360 trumps the PS3 in terms of gaming. Plus you can dload HD movies through the Xbox Live marketplace, which is where this is all headed anyhow. The PS3 is a nice paperweight that just happens to have a Blu-ray player in it.
People seem to forget the 3+ disc TV Season DVD's or Box Set's etc that could all fit on ONE Blu-Ray disc. I'd rather have my entire Band of Brothers Collection (10 DVDs) on 1 or 2 Blu-Ray discs in HD. I don't know about anyone else but my DVD bookcase had to be expanded this Christmas because we ran out of room.
Enough.
You can change the audio track with the audio remote button or via the popup menu button without restarting the movie on blu-ray.
Many blu-rays will resume where you left off when you press the stop button and hit play again. All HD DVD titles start from the beginning when you do the same.
You can change the audio track with the audio remote button or via the popup menu button without restarting the movie on blu-ray.
Many blu-rays will resume where you left off when you press the stop button and hit play again. All HD DVD titles start from the beginning when you do the same.
Handbrake for HD Formats
I'm not into "stealing" or downloading movies, but I certanly believe that I should be able to backup content I have Purchased. Or Rip it and watch it using an alternative media player device (that is, an alternative to BD players, and HDDVD players) like my AppleTV or streaming through XBox360, etc.. etc...
Do you think the majority of HD enthusiasts pay more for fancy PIP and internet capabilities or true high bitrate video and audio? Of the 400+ disks released on each format, find out what percentage of each format (BD and HD-DVD) have lossless surround sound. You will be surprised to find that the percentage is a lot higher for bluray. I know that HD-DVD standards were finalized first, but just because you are first to the market does not mean you are superior. The first Toshiba players (HD-A1 and XA1) were nothing but Pentium PCs running Linux with a HD-DVD drive. They were big, slow and very slow. That is how Toshiba rushed to the market. If you notice, Toshiba is a single source for HD-DVD players. BD has Philips, Samsung, Sony, Panasonic, Denon, Marantz, Sharp, etc. Also, BD disks are a lot more rugged than HD-DVD due to a proprietary coating. BDs have a lot higher max bitrate than HD-DVD. Panasonic is the primary IP holder of Bluray not Sony. So, quit spreading rumors that Bluray is Sony's format. Bluray is as much a Sony format as AAC is an Apple format. Also, the fact HD-DVD has so much microsoft technology makes me nervous.
I own a PS3 and it is fabulous. The video quality is top notch. It also plays SACDs, upscales SD-DVDs, upscales standard CDs from 44.1kHz to 176.4kHz (through HDMI). It also gets media from a media server. It has bluetooth and even plays quicktime movie trailers.
*Sigh*
The Xbox 360 has a small HD it is proprietary while the Ps3 HD is upgradable with standard SATA drives.
There are a number of games out and coming out for the Ps3.
Downloading HD movies in 720p resolution requires hours even with broadband.
Besides being a good console with highly reliable hardware, it is also a media extender that you can connect to your computer network wirelessly or via ethernet allowing you to stream video, music and photos from your computer.
The added bonus is that it is an excellent Upscaling DVD player and blu-ray player.
If you are so inclined, you can also dual boot a linux distro on it fully supported by Sony to use it as an extra computer.
Very true, I overlooked the tv shows.
Now, we just need to hope that studios will actually do this versus splitting them up and charging us more