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"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph in the world is that good men do nothing", Edmund Burke
What Burke REALLY said (in 1770): ""When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." Same connotation, but not simplified for those who can't parse his tortured syntax.
 
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Gotta hand it to them. They're handling this transition better than I thought. Better than PPC->Intel.
 
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I keep seeing this, how come yourself and so many people seem to shut down AI stuff as rubbish? Have you tried chatgpt or any alternatives? It can be really powerful and I’m very excited for Apple Intelligence. Genuinely interested to hear your perspective.

- I don’t really understand why people have clicked ‘disagree’, you disagree with a question? 😅
Yeah, I don't get it either. One thing is to not want it fine, but some seem very aggressive and threatened by these AI features.

Same kind of thing can be seen in the EV space, where some people driving gas seem to take personal offense that others might drive electric vehicles.
 
ChatGPT integration dos not seem to be possible. So I guess thats more than just Apple Intelligence in terms of "AI" branded machine learning.
 
Intel Mac users aren’t missing out on anything then. Apple intelligence is a Fad just like Apple Vision Pro.
I doubt that. They used a lot of machine learning in the past and it enhances the experience. Some of the Final Cut features that are gatekeeped by M1 look pretty neat. And if the generative Text AI stuff is useful for E-Mail summary's I am sure it will be one of those "you'll miss it as soon as you got used to it" things.
 
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I guess this is good news? I only recently upgraded to the latest OS (not even sure what it’s called, the one before this upcoming one) about a month ago cos my work laptop died and I needed to use Teams on my Mac whilst waiting for a replacement. It wouldn’t work with Big Sur so that’s what I upgraded from, I think. I plan to stick to this current one until I have major compatibility issues again. At which point my 2020 Intel MBP may need an upgrade. Trying to keep it going for as long as powerful. Had a 12” PB for about 7 years before upgrading to an 11” MBA which lasted 9 years before needing an upgrade. I like to try to get the most out of them!
 
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This is really a Cook strategy. Jobs tried hard to not do this, sure a few times problems meant extending the delivery, but Jobs was clearly not happy about it and in most cases people that failed to deliver were held accountable.

Not in Cooks world, as long as he gets credit for the keynote, appears in magazines, and feels good, the customer does not matter.

Cook cares about customers since that's how Apple makes revenue and profit.

It's just that he doesn't consider you a kind of customer which is important to satisfy, probably because you want to pay as little money as possible to Apple.
 
So even if you buy a new Mac or iPhone, you're not going to get a full year of use of new AI features as Apple is delaying them to 2025, at which point, there will be updated Macs and phones to buy.

Bit tired of Apple announcing features that won't come for a long while.
Apple is beginning to look like Microsoft years ago. They also highlighted things to come to make their updates a bit appealing. Tables have turned these days.
 
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Cook cares about customers since that's how Apple makes revenue and profit.

It's just that he doesn't consider you a kind of customer which is important to satisfy, probably because you want to pay as little money as possible to Apple.
Cook is constantly looking for the boundaries. During his time as a ceo the value of money for their products made a nosedive. I personally think this time he has pushed too far. There are bad reviews about the iPhone 16/16pro all over the internet from well established tech reporters. I also saw one comparing a 200 dollar phone with the new iPhone 16. Of course the 200 dollar phone came with 120hz screen refresh 16 gb RAM and 256gb memory standard. It’s a shameful tactic from Apple. I hope people wake up and vote with their wallet. That’s the only way to get a better Apple.
 
Not that many of them but just think about those 50k Mac Pro in early 2020.
My shop bought a fleet of Intel Mac Pros for use as professional video editing stations within the universe of producing documentaries. The typical workflow of our video editors won't be missing these features. That might change in the future, of course, but for now I think that most shops would keep their Mac Pros in service.

Of course it is always great to wait to buy new gear, but when you have work to do you have to buy the gear that can get the job done regardless of the marketplace.
 
Surprisingly nothing else? It’s surprising that anything is omitted. E.g. Intel mac pro with suitable GPUs can certainly do the Apple intelligence:transcription thingie as far as computing power is voncerned. Criippling intel macs features is artificial of course…
 
Sure, but that's extreme nonetheless.

A 999$ Macbook Air bought the same year gets more support is what I find funny. ;)
It's a technical limitation, rather than a product one, AFAICT. Both of these features seem to rely on hardware acceleration that only Apple Silicon will have (or the performance may just be too poor to be usable on x86). Those who bought the Mac Pros will have known they were on legacy hardware, and will have expected to be able to upgrade by now
 
I keep seeing this, how come yourself and so many people seem to shut down AI stuff as rubbish? Have you tried chatgpt or any alternatives? It can be really powerful and I’m very excited for Apple Intelligence. Genuinely interested to hear your perspective.

- I don’t really understand why people have clicked ‘disagree’, you disagree with a question? 😅

"AI" tools is just a way for us to become lazier and less imaginative, not more efficient. If we rely on generative tools too much, we'll lose the ability to express ourselves properly, let alone write properly. "AI" generated content all sound as if they're written by the same person.
 
I keep seeing this, how come yourself and so many people seem to shut down AI stuff as rubbish?

"Far from liberating creativity from the strictures of conventional mediums, technology like AI is only serving to constrain the artist’s vision. There are exceptions—like Albert Oehlen and Richard Prince, both of whom subvert tech optimism by prankishly misusing their computer programs to create scrappy, consciously juvenile collages—but in general, neo-modernist painters are indeed not using their new tools; the new tools are using them."

Gimmicks of Future Past
 
...shareholders.

Have you ever taken a minute to think about what it takes to please Apple shareholders? I bet not.

Shareholder approval is the result of Apple manufacturing and selling 600,000 iPhones per day, every day of the year (on the average). And keeping Apple's 1 billion active users happy by creating Apple products they want to purchase over and over and over.

In addition to the above, Cook has created a work environment at Apple where its 160,000+ employees are happy and well compensated in order for the above to happen. With no mass layoffs that dozens of other tech companies engaged in a couple years go.

Great Apple products people want to buy => happy repeat Apple customers purchasing those products => outstanding sales as one of the most valuable tech companies on the planet => happy shareholders.

Making sure the above smoothly occurs year after year after year is why Cook is doing an outstanding job and worth the big bucks he earns.
 
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