Here's a Sneak Peek Inside Apple's New Studio Display

[greenbreadmmm]

Perhaps panel shortages are why apple pivoted away from the 27” iMac? Would explain the internals.

LG had to halt production of stand alone 5k and now the studio is having a hard time keeping up with demand for a $1,600 stand alone monitor.

Could make sense?

 

[MacWorld78]

A13 Bionic chip, however with software update it can either be good or bad side effect.

 

[Digital Skunk]

Wow! Two inches from being a full computer.

I won't be buying one, finally decided to just get the LG with VESA arms. Not ideal, but not being able to remove the power cable or the stand really does rub me the wrong way.

 

[CWallace]

Perhaps panel shortages are why apple pivoted away from the 27” iMac? Would explain the internals.

LG had to halt production of stand alone 5k and now the studio is having a hard time keeping up with demand for a $1,600 stand alone monitor.

Could make sense?

The Apple Studio Display has a newer version of the 5K panel that supports 600 nits vs. 500 nits of the old.

I would not be surprised if when the LG UltraFine 5K becomes available again, it also now supports 600 nits using this same new panel version.

I believe Apple ended the iMac 27" (at least for the time being) because they either are not sure how they want to address that part of the market with a new model or if they have plans to make the Mac mini a bit better and that plus the Apple Studio Display will cost more money than then old base iMac 27" and they expect folks to deal with it.

 

[theluggage]

"The Studio doesn't need that big fan for the Max chip, but it's cheaper to give it the same fan as the Ultra"

What I actually said:

- look at the size of the cooler in the Mac Studio.

Again - check the specs - the Ultra version has a different, all-copper cooling system that weighs 2lb more than the Max version.

You're the only one talking about fans as if they were the only part of a cooling system. Do have fun splitting hairs, but don't pretend you have a point.

 

[Realityck]

I wonder given the Studio display internal design that it’s capable of operating separately as a web TV or entertainment device? The fans seem to point to sustained operation separate from being driven by a Mac. The fact that it operates with Siri could place it a similar 24/7 category as the HomePod.

 

[MisterK]

Sorry if I'm missing something obvious but there seems to be a lot of people upset that the power cord isn't user removable. I don't understand as it's a display not a laptop/portable. You just leave it plugged in, right? Why do people want a user removable power cord? Is it to change it for a longer one?

 

[greenbreadmmm]

I wonder given the Studio display internal design that it’s capable of operating separately as a web TV or entertainment device. The fans seem to point to sustained operation separate from being driven by a Mac. The fact that it operates with Siri could place it a similar 24/7 category as the HomePod.

Without Wi-Fi, all these hopes and dreams for the display are moot

 

[EugW]

The Apple Studio Display was built for one market - the people who have been haranguing Apple for years to release an iMac 5K display without the computer.

Something that looked more premium than the LG UltraFine 5K that was their only other option for a 5K display and knew it would cost more than the $1300 the UltraFine 5K did.

My belief is that the LG UltraFine 5K was Apple's experiment to divorce itself from the lowish volume display market, but it failed. There were a lot of bugs (initially) with the LG UltraFine, and many people stayed away from it also because of its aesthetics and build feel.

I believe Apple ended the iMac 27" (at least for the time being) because they either are not sure how they want to address that part of the market with a new model or if they have plans to make the Mac mini a bit better and that plus the Apple Studio Display will cost more money than then old base iMac 27" and they expect folks to deal with it.

I damn well hope so. That "make the Mac mini a bit better" part I mean, with an M1 Pro and more ports in 2022. I already have a monitor I can use for the time being.

 

[Marshall73]

Well, that’s the mail in its coffin, fans in a stupid sealed unit. So now it’s going to die due to being clogged with dust.

 

[gazwas]

This picture could explain why Ross Young's rumours point to another 27 inch miniLED display.

The same enclosure for economies of scale coupled with having the thicker chassis and dual fans for the fancy new high brightness, high dimming zone, HDR spec miniLED Studio Pro Display XDR.

 

[Realityck]

Without Wi-Fi, all these hopes and dreams for the display are moot

The problem with that quick conclusion is how does it operate separately as a Siri device if the Mac doesn’t? Apple doesn’t detail a lot of details how this display works from their product details. Just look at the lack of specifics as far as how the A13 operates, separate memory, iOS 15 used, and so on.

 

[bpeeps]

Can someone explain why it’s significantly thicker than the 24 inch iMac?

Because it has a 96 watt power supply built in that can charge a Macbook. The iMac 24" is much thinner because it has an external power supply.

 

[Realityck]

Well, that’s the mail in its coffin, fans in a stupid sealed unit. So now it’s going to die due to being clogged with dust.

No design that has fans is totally sealed. The 24” iMac has the intake and exhaust located on the same bottom axis as the speakers on both left and right sides separately. You think the speakers are sealed also?

 

[CWallace]

Well, that’s the mail in its coffin, fans in a stupid sealed unit. So now it’s going to die due to being clogged with dust.

Folks have iMacs running for a decade or more and the cooling system on this looks more effective than what the iMac had.

So I think end-users will be okay.

 

[Realityck]

Because it has a 96 watt power supply built in that can charge a Macbook. The iMac 24" is much thinner because it has an external power supply.

That’s true, and the studio display certainly illustrates that future iMacs could become thicker to accommodate internal designs that deal with more heat, like more powerful processing or displays that generate more heat, like mini-LED.

 

[jwdsail]

Sort of like the old Front Row functionality of iMac G5 of yore.

Front Row on a Mac Mini attached to a HDTV was perfection...

 

[NightFox]

Johnny Five is alive!

 

[Marshall73]

Folks have iMacs running for a decade or more and the cooling system on this looks more effective than what the iMac had.

So I think end-users will be okay.

This is a full fat fan inside an iMac (6 years of use) with lots of space Between the blades vs the new display fans which are similar to MacBook Pro fans which get clogged up after a few years. Fans you can’t clean are a dumb AF design.

 

[BigMac?]

So far no sign of Wi-Fi/BT-antennas.
?

 

[satchmo]

Well, I wish they could fit an M1 Pro in there and give us a 27" iMac.

Looks like it may be a tight fit for an M1 Pro...so the obvious solution is to give us a 30" iMac.

 

[theluggage]

Why do people want a user removable power cord? Is it to change it for a longer one?

Yes. What if you want to get the VESA version and mount it on one of those big, swing-out display arms - do you have an extension socket floating in mid-air somewhere?

Or replace it if it gets damaged. This is a power cord that trails along the floor, gets trodden on etc. Especially if you can't route it safely because the cable is too ruddy short.

Or, I've got 2 different displays either side of my iMac and (at times) have had other displays for different purposes. Sometimes I want to re-arrange them. Like most other mid-priced displays they all use the same standard IEC connectors, so I just swap the displays and leave the cables in place. With this I'd have to get down on the floor, unplug each cable, pull the cables up through the holes in the desk etc. every time.

Sometimes it's just easier to re-route or untangle the cable, or to thread it through holes in the desk, if you can completely detach it at both ends....

Now, is this a terrible fault that makes the display unusable? No.
Should we call the UN and tell them to drop everything and deal with this atrocity? No.
Would we be surprised by an omission like this on a $200 bargain-bucket Walmart display? No.

...but, should we expect a $1600 display to have these petty, annoying design defects - either for the sake of cost cutting, or to make the whole thing pointlessly thin? No. At $1600 (plus $400 if you want an adequate stand), this thing should come bundled with a ruddy sense of entitlement!

As the guy on LTT said - "the last time I saw a display with a non-removable mains cable, it had a tube!"

(OK, technically it is removable, but it's clearly not something you want to do more than once or twice - if at all - and the connector is totally non-standard).

 

[gallico916]

S.. A13 chip 64GB of RAM, sound like an iPhone, should that board be way smaller?

 

[ric22]

What I actually said:




You're the only one talking about fans as if they were the only part of a cooling system. Do have fun splitting hairs, but don't pretend you have a point.

You initially replied to my message about fans!!! Look up. You tried to correct my post. The point being the cooling system DOES NOT NEED TO BE LARGE. If there's enough space in a MacBook Pro for a Mac chip there's enough space in a Mini or this Studio Display. End of.

 

[ric22]

Yes. What if you want to get the VESA version and mount it on one of those big, swing-out display arms - do you have an extension socket floating in mid-air somewhere?

Or replace it if it gets damaged. This is a power cord that trails along the floor, gets trodden on etc. Especially if you can't route it safely because the cable is too ruddy short.

Or, I've got 2 different displays either side of my iMac and (at times) have had other displays for different purposes. Sometimes I want to re-arrange them. Like most other mid-priced displays they all use the same standard IEC connectors, so I just swap the displays and leave the cables in place. With this I'd have to get down on the floor, unplug each cable, pull the cables up through the holes in the desk etc. every time.

Sometimes it's just easier to re-route or untangle the cable, or to thread it through holes in the desk, if you can completely detach it at both ends....

Now, is this a terrible fault that makes the display unusable? No.
Should we call the UN and tell them to drop everything and deal with this atrocity? No.
Would we be surprised by an omission like this on a $200 bargain-bucket Walmart display? No.

...but, should we expect a $1600 display to have these petty, annoying design defects - either for the sake of cost cutting, or to make the whole thing pointlessly thin? No. At $1600 (plus $400 if you want an adequate stand), this thing should come bundled with a ruddy sense of entitlement!

As the guy on LTT said - "the last time I saw a display with a non-removable mains cable, it had a tube!"

(OK, technically it is removable, but it's clearly not something you want to do more than once or twice - if at all - and the connector is totally non-standard).

All of this I agree with, at least