Because you have no more proof that Apple was not up to no good than I have proof it was
That would be all I was trying to say on the topic. I'm not the one that made claims of a conspiracy. All I've presented is Apple's statements of their motives. I'm not the one making things up.
and at the end of the day I have the right to say that I believe the circumstances and context indicate that Apple entered in a vendetta against Flash that failed. I do not believe Steve Jobs letter to Flash was all there is to it, it was only a response to unhappy customers. You do not know Apple's motives more than I do and all each of us can do is to use common sense and make up a mind.
Sure, you have the right to say whatever you want. But for an honest discussion to take place, you should source your claims. And present your opinions as opinions and not fact.
Every time I say I believe, since the change of TOS, that Apple was in a campaign to kill Flash, you keep saying it is not the case when in fact you are talking as much from the top of your head as I do.
I keep saying there is no evidence of a campaign to kill Flash. In fact, there is evidence to the contrary. As evidenced by the fact that Apple has opened up APIs specifically for the Flash Player on the Mac since "Thoughts on Flash" came out.
Just to be clear, I am differentiating between "a campaign to kill Flash" and a decision to promote alternate technologies on mobile devices.
But you know, I read the thread again and people will be able to see how your positions slightly changed over the course of the discussion to come to something that I would most likely find acceptable
My position hasn't changed, but I have refined my argument. That's how a discussion works. You won't find any contradictions or made up facts in my posts, as long as you take them in context. You cannot say the same.
but here again not letting people have a choice to install or not the player indicate, to me, that corporate agenda is what really blocks Flash out.
Of course it's the "corporate agenda" that "blocks Flash out!?" Did you think that Apple is a philanthropic organization? However, there is no evidence that the corporate agenda is anything other than what was presented in "Thoughts on Flash".
You will never be able to change what I believe and the point I am making unless you bring facts to the table.
Good for you. Your opinions based on "applesucks" against my facts. Sounds fair.
The facts you brought are not enough to change my mind so just leave me alone claiming what I want and let readers make up their minds.
I don't think I've stopped you from making any claims. I'm just presenting rebuttals to them. I'm not even attempting to change your mind.
And that is not true, you can't build with HTML everything you build with Flash and for the part you can build with HTML5 any decent Flex developer can build it in half the time with full implementation of object oriented design patterns, it just means enterprise class solid code, compare to javascript in a web page.
Wow. And, again, if you read the whole paragraph, Jobs did not say that you can build everything with HTML that you can with Flash. Or make any development time or performance claims.
Woz said he was misquoted when the paper claimed he said Android was better but he never denied saying Android will get a bigger market share.
From the article I posted:
Woz did say he lightly prognosticated that Android would become more popular "based on what I've read," but that he expects Android "to be a lot like Windows... I'm not trying to put Android down, but I'm not suggesting it's better than iOS by any stretch of the imagination. But it can get greater marketshare and still be crappy."
He repeated what he read. That's some strong evidence of Android's growing "dominance."
