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Maybe I am a little bit sceptical but I don't think there will be so many changes on Apple notebooks like MB 15" or MBP 13".

My predictions:

(5) MB - 13,3" (new design, max. 320GB HDD, max. 4GB ram, NO Blu-ray, lower price)
(4) MBP - 15,4" and 17,1" (new design, max. 500GB HDD or 128 SSD/$3100, max. 8GB ram, Blu-ray, lower price)
(3) MBA - 13,3" (small design updates, 128GB SSD or 120GB/160GB HDD, max. 4GB ram, lower price)
 
I'm thinking these are both MacBooks. If Apple plans on releasing a sub $800 MacBook, it would make sense that it is stripped down to the basics - which does not seem to include FireWire. This may be due to the success of the Air which does not have FireWire, it may have been decided that Ethernet and USB2 were 'good enough' for a basic MacBook.

And I don't see them releasing a MBP without at least 1 Firewire 400 port, regardless of the fact that it would seem to include a FW800/FW3200 port. I know it is backwards compatible but I don't see them having only a single Firewire port in the Pro model.
 
Is it possible that Apple has developed their own small video/audio out port, and then with adapter you can use it for HDMI/DVI/VGA/DisplayPort etc?
 
Also, if they DO release Blu-ray drives (which I doubt will happen unless Apple also releases iLife/Pro software that takes advantage of it) it will NOT be standard but a BTO option, just like Solid State Drives are an option.
 
Martius said:
Maybe I am a little bit sceptical but I don't think there will be so many changes on Apple notebooks like MB 15" or MBP 13".

My predictions:

(5) MB - 13,3" (new design, max. 320GB HDD, max. 4GB ram, NO Blu-ray, lower price)
(4) MBP - 15,4" and 17,1" (new design, max. 500GB HDD or 128 SSD/$3100, max. 8GB ram, Blu-ray, lower price)
(3) MBA - 13,3" (small design updates, 128GB SSD or 120GB/160GB HDD, max. 4GB ram, lower price)
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I think this is spot on. Apple won't make that many changes at once. I'll add to that the ability of the MBP to dock to a station. I do think that bottom hole is either displayport, dvi, or a proprietary docking connector so that only the MBP and not another company's laptop can dock. Something like that. The hole also seems to be the right size for esata, which would be nice, but the location is odd for it. If it's a docking port, the the location is not important.
 
LukeG said:
Also, if they DO release Blu-ray drives (which I doubt will happen unless Apple also releases iLife/Pro software that takes advantage of it) it will NOT be standard but a BTO option, just like Solid State Drives are an option.
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Without doubting that they have something up their sleeves, Apple is running out of announcements for MacWorld 2009. Though I think a true TV would be saved until MacWorld.

I think these notebooks could have blu-ray for disc playback without seeing iLife '09 until Jan 6, 2009. Pros will need blu-ray support to meet client demands.
 
Martius said:
Maybe I am a little bit sceptical but I don't think there will be so many changes on Apple notebooks like MB 15" or MBP 13".

My predictions:

(5) MB - 13,3" (new design, max. 320GB HDD, max. 4GB ram, NO Blu-ray, lower price)
(4) MBP - 15,4" and 17,1" (new design, max. 500GB HDD or 128 SSD/$3100, max. 8GB ram, Blu-ray, lower price)
(3) MBA - 13,3" (small design updates, 128GB SSD or 120GB/160GB HDD, max. 4GB ram, lower price)
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Since Jobs' return and company house-cleaning, Apple has had a very clean product lineup.

There are currently three Macbook models with one being primarily a color option. There are three Macbook Pro options. And there are two Macbook Air options. That's eight options and sku rumors point to twelve. Therefore there may be a model at every size. However, I suspect a one-more-thing based on whatever the "brick" rumor is, whether that's a manufacturing process or an actual device. Though Apple has disappointed with the surprises lately. I think Apple may be keeping the brick as tight lipped as iPhone, but I'm just dreaming...
 
Martius said:
Maybe I am a little bit sceptical but I don't think there will be so many changes on Apple notebooks like MB 15" or MBP 13".

My predictions:

(5) MB - 13,3" (new design, max. 320GB HDD, max. 4GB ram, NO Blu-ray, lower price)
(4) MBP - 15,4" and 17,1" (new design, max. 500GB HDD or 128 SSD/$3100, max. 8GB ram, Blu-ray, lower price)
(3) MBA - 13,3" (small design updates, 128GB SSD or 120GB/160GB HDD, max. 4GB ram, lower price)
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Mostly agreed; I'm not sure Blu-ray is going to make it though. BTO for the pro is the most I'm hoping for, considering slot-loading slimline BD drives look to be about $900 right now.

Processors will probably be bumped somewhat, but not too much.
I'm guessing this:
MB: 13.3" LED 1280x800; 2.4GHz, 2.6GHz, 2.33GHz budget option?; max. 8GB RAM; SuperDrive (finally!) standard
MBP: 15.4" LED 1440x900 (1680x1050 option), 17.1" LED 1680x1050 (1920x1200 option) 2.6GHz, 2.8GHz, 2.53GHz quad-core BTO?; max. 8GB RAM; Blu-ray BTO?
MBA: 13.3" LED 1280x800; 1.86GHz, 2GHz; 2-4GB soldered RAM

I can't see prices being lowered too much (more than $200), but I do think there will be some price cutting.
 
AppliedMicro said:
Just to clarify the point: I'm firmly convinced the Pro books 15" will have a FW port. And it is very much needed of course. The technology is still expensive enough to make Apple want to drop it on the low-end non-pro, just as they did with the iPod.

By the way... anyone remember how the first MacBook Pro (CD) came without the FW800? ;)
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yes, I have that one. They added it back when everyone complained. I think they will run in to the same problem if they remove it from the macbook. Nice little sales tactic.
 
teme said:
Is it possible that Apple has developed their own small video/audio out port, and then with adapter you can use it for HDMI/DVI/VGA/DisplayPort etc?
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Bingo.

This is better than anything else, as not only does it carry audio, unlike DVI, but is a better standard than HDMI and can easily be adapted as long as Apple supply a MiniDisplayPort-DisplayPort adapter.

While we are all making our own guesses, I'll chuck mine in:

Possibility 1:
13.3" Pictured is $800
15.4" Pictured is $1200. Both MBs, probably at least 2-3 configurations each.

MacBook Pros will have a second FW 3200/1600/800 port and BluRay Options. They may be anodised black to differentiate. Reason I say we haven't seen the Pros is because we haven't seen 17" yet. They said lower prices are entering, so that's why I think there may be a prosumer 15", as shown.

Possibility 2:
These are the MB and MBP, but that 13" MB has FireWire over Ethernet and still costs around $1000.

Of course, elements of both could be correct or both completely wrong. :eek:
 
Btw, only 2 USB ports? How do I suppose to attach wired keyboard/mouse and iPhone Dock. :confused::eek:
 
teme said:
Is it possible that Apple has developed their own small video/audio out port, and then with adapter you can use it for HDMI/DVI/VGA/DisplayPort etc?
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iEdd said:
Bingo.

This is better than anything else, as not only does it carry audio, unlike DVI, but is a better standard than HDMI and can easily be adapted as long as Apple supply a MiniDisplayPort-DisplayPort adapter.

While we are all making our own guesses, I'll chuck mine in:

Possibility 1:
13.3" Pictured is $800
15.4" Pictured is $1200. Both MBs, probably at least 2-3 configurations each.

MacBook Pros will have a second FW 3200/1600/800 port and BluRay Options. They may be anodised black to differentiate. Reason I say we haven't seen the Pros is because we haven't seen 17" yet. They said lower prices are entering, so that's why I think there may be a prosumer 15", as shown.

Possibility 2:
These are the MB and MBP, but that 13" MB has FireWire over Ethernet and still costs around $1000.

Of course, elements of both could be correct or both completely wrong. :eek:
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Wow I'm glad I'm not the only person that thought that. :rolleyes:

Dias said:
Btw, only 2 USB ports? How do I suppose to attach wired keyboard/mouse and iPhone Dock. :confused::eek:
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You're using an Apple keyboard right?
 
iEdd said:
Bingo.

This is better than anything else, as not only does it carry audio, unlike DVI, but is a better standard than HDMI and can easily be adapted as long as Apple supply a MiniDisplayPort-DisplayPort adapter.

While we are all making our own guesses, I'll chuck mine in:

Possibility 1:
13.3" Pictured is $800
15.4" Pictured is $1200. Both MBs, probably at least 2-3 configurations each.

MacBook Pros will have a second FW 3200/1600/800 port and BluRay Options. They may be anodised black to differentiate. Reason I say we haven't seen the Pros is because we haven't seen 17" yet. They said lower prices are entering, so that's why I think there may be a prosumer 15", as shown.

Possibility 2:
These are the MB and MBP, but that 13" MB has FireWire over Ethernet and still costs around $1000.

Of course, elements of both could be correct or both completely wrong. :eek:
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Kinda shady about apples own port but i like the idea.
 
iEdd said:
While we are all making our own guesses, I'll chuck mine in:

Possibility 1:
13.3" Pictured is $800
15.4" Pictured is $1200. Both MBs, probably at least 2-3 configurations each.

MacBook Pros will have a second FW 3200/1600/800 port and BluRay Options. They may be anodised black to differentiate. Reason I say we haven't seen the Pros is because we haven't seen 17" yet. They said lower prices are entering, so that's why I think there may be a prosumer 15", as shown.

Possibility 2:
These are the MB and MBP, but that 13" MB has FireWire over Ethernet and still costs around $1000.

Of course, elements of both could be correct or both completely wrong. :eek:
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I sure hope you're right, and I'm hoping for #2. I really want a 13" MB, but I have to have FW. I don't want to jump up to 15" since I have a 22" external display for doing anything big (not to mention the $$ savings). I just hope that the rumors about 12 different configurations are true. That leaves a little more hope to getting a MB with FW (preferably 13").
 
Every night there's a new thread and I have to read through another thousand or so posts, I swear to god I've read tens of thousands of posts and 99% of them are the same.

Announcement tomorrow though, shock or displeasure.
 
cdbob said:
Every night there's a new thread and I have to read through another thousand or so posts, I swear to god I've read tens of thousands of posts and 99% of them are the same.

Announcement tomorrow though, shock or displeasure.
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lol

Here's hoping they're what we're after ... is has been too long since my last MB.
 
OK, you got me.
But these DV cameras aren't the stylish, small and "cool" new ones to entice consumers, I suppose?
I mean... nowadays cameras recording on some flash device are the hot stuff, right?
This is also somewhat indicated by the fact that Canon only have 3 miniDV models at the bottom of the page.
So this seems to be yesterday's tech (for the consumer market!).
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Yeah, FireWire is yesterday's tech for the consumer market, except for HDV. You can't do HDV over FireWire, and cameras like the HV30 can produce awesome pictures. They've already killed FireWire from all their iPods, remember -- USB is cheaper and smaller (also slower).

Killing FireWire on the consumer Mac notebook is, sadly, kind of a predictable move, and one that will be a problem for a number of potential upgraders with existing DV/HDV cameras. They won't kill the FW800 on the Pro model; there are professional video devices that can saturate the in-built FW bus and need *extra* FW800 ports from an expansion card to drive an external HD.

They *need* a replacement for target disk mode, though. If they can somehow shoehorn that into ethernet they can keep the upgrade process as painless as it is today.
 
chaitanyapandit said:
If you compare the mag safe slots in the new macbook and the macbook pro shells, the one on the macbook pro is bigger than the one on the macbook if you compare the height, any reason for the difference?

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=139092&d=1223803489

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=139078&d=1223801098
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You can't see the magsafe slot in the MBP pic. It's cut off. The far right one is ethernet.
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plus that first pic is a MBP and the second is a MB. i cant believe people havent worked this out yet… its not that hard! dont always believe what you see!

im surprised that Apple hasnt gone for that patent they applied for a while ago for a really thin ethernet port with a new connector that squeezes in. maybe theyll use it in the next redesigns to make the cases even smaller.
 
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