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But it seems to me that apple has done a pretty good job. If you consider the fact that they have only been in the cell phone industry for months,

Well, 26 months. ;)

they've made a HUGE impact on raising the standards for user friendly smart phones. Sure, they didn't get all the phone stuff right the first time; but they were basically just adding a phone to an iPod touch at the time (which was huge in itself for the mobile entertainment biz).

Uh, wasn't it the other way around? I.e., the iPod touch was derived from the iPhone?
 
Yeah. Their car accidents cause me an extra 15 minutes to get to work every freaking morning.

People who insist on talking on the phone while driving piss me off.

Unfortunately, some of us HAVE to talk while we drive due to our professions. IF I don't pick up the phone while the hospital is trying to call me while you lie motionless in the ER you might bleed to death! Voice dial and Bluetooth headsets have all but eliminated the risks of doing so.
 
Love the stereo bluetooth!

HATE the landscape keyboard. They had better make it an option! I get so sick of safari rotating when I don't want it to!
 
I was really hoping that they would allow you to disable the "unlock" screen. That is just such a stupid and useless screen that makes using it really frustrating at times, the home button is PLENTY protection from accidents. Seriously, does Apple use their own products? How can anyone not hate that screen after 1 day? Maybe they will support it but it wasnt a feature worth mentioning...

As of now, this is the only screen you can apply a wallpaper to. that would be no fun :(
 
A Hulu app not the hulu site. I know hulu.com would require flash but a Hulu app may not.

If its using hulus service, and hulu uses flash, then yes, yes it would require flash.

Unless of course hulu does a massive overhall and starts using non propietary standards like h.264.

Funny that everyone always seems to have a problem with propietary things, unless its that POS flash.
 
I believe it is actually an emulator on your desktop and doesnt actually work on your phone. But I could be wrong...

Bummer. I hope it actually works on the iphone and is not an emulator. Anyone else know?
 
DS, I organize my contacts by groups, mass delete emails, and can open MS Office documents in a variety of applications using my iPhone. While, AFAIK, "editing" an MS document is only currently available through Google on the iPhone (requiring wireless connectivity), I'm highly skeptical of whether anyone would truly NEED to edit a complex Word of Excel document using a phone. There's an app for almost everything. I'm sure Office Mobile solutions are well on their way.

~ CB

Imho, the addition of copy and paste will bring a huge influx of office apps. Mark my words.

Soon, people will be complaining that there are TOO many office type apps.

w00master
 
If its using hulus service, and hulu uses flash, then yes, yes it would require flash.

Unless of course hulu does a massive overhall and starts using non propietary standards like h.264.

Funny that everyone always seems to have a problem with propietary things, unless its that POS flash.

Like the BBC did with their iPlayer service in the UK
 
And I think the Pre is going to be big, if released on non-Sprint networks. The physical keyboard alone is going to drive a lot of people to it. Search looks perfect and is, quite frankly, something Apple should be ashamed of not getting right (Spotlight alone is reason enough for me to never want to use another computer). And notifications on the Pre look far superior to the iPhone's pop-ups.

Why don't we wait until the Pre is actually released so we can see if the phone/OS matches all the hype. Hard to compare a virtual phone with a real phone. Remember the first iPhone? Looked great on paper and in ads, but, some of the features fell short in actual use. The Pre won't be Perfect.

Even though Apple is a newcomer to the mobile phone arena, they've hit it out of the park on their first try, despite the glitches. In fact, I'd go as far to say that if it weren't for the iPhone, there would be no Pre.
 
Like the BBC did with their iPlayer service in the UK

As did youtube when they started to have their catalogue in h.264 for the youtube app.

We NEED OPEN STANDARDS when it comes to media on the web people!

I dont give a damn if flash is free, its buggy, and its in the control of one company.
 
If its using hulus service, and hulu uses flash, then yes, yes it would require flash.

Unless of course hulu does a massive overhall and starts using non propietary standards like h.264.

Funny that everyone always seems to have a problem with propietary things, unless its that POS flash.

H.264 is built into the current Flash spec. It's not a huge deal for many flash video sites to move over to H.264. Whether or not this is true for Hulu is obviously a big question, but it's not beyond their means.

*shrugs* I like flash. I love the ease of development. It's here to stay whether you like or not.

w00master
 
Unless of course hulu does a massive overhall and starts using non propietary standards like h.264.

Last I checked they DID use h.264. Just because the player is in flash doesn't mean the media is.

EDIT: BTW by "Hulu app" I meant an app BY Hulu, not by a 3rd party dev.
 
i bet that the new Iphone will come w/ Vid Cam capabilities with the OS 3.0

just that feature alone can make a great tv ad during the launch.
 
I might pay the 10 bucks if spotlight works with music, its something I always wanted and it puzzles me that they havent implemented such a simple feature yet. Otherwise its a pretty boring update, Palm is probably feeling pretty confident right now.

I would guess Palm is feeling very un-confident right now. Considering that about 90% of the features they had over iPhone 2.0 just evaporated.

Pre is kind of make or break for Palm. I think they made a huge mistake in Pre-announcing the Pre. Although I understand they probably HAD to at the time. If they had released the Pre at the time they would have been able to gain some momentum and gotten a lot of press about 1 upping Apple.

But now, Apple has already leaped at least pretty much to parity with them.

For Apple its a lot easier to keep the momentum going for the iPhone than it will be for the Pre to go from zero.
 
So underwhelming.

Apple are just "releasing" features that should have been there in the first place. They truly are the masters of hype. :eek:
 
That depends on your previous phone.

Not trying to be a smart @$$, but Treo and WiMo users lost a LOT of functionality with the 2G and 3G iPhone. Some lost functionality and gained an expensive bill.

Even now, Treo and WiMo users still can't go to the iPhone and open and edit and save MS Office documents and even organize their contacts by groups or mass delete emails, etc.

Just saying. :p

And the Treo and WiMo users don't have an iPod built into their phone and no App store or iTunes store and blah blah blah......every user has different needs.


There is no such thing as the Jesus phone, nothing can do it all. Technology moves to fast.
 
As did youtube when they started to have their catalogue in h.264 for the youtube app.

We NEED OPEN STANDARDS when it comes to media on the web people!

I dont give a damn if flash is free, its buggy, and its in the control of one company.

Unfortunately most audio/video codecs are in the control of one company. This is what's holding back HTML5 video support. They were going to have one standard codec, but industry politics got in the way.
 
As did youtube when they started to have their catalogue in h.264 for the youtube app.

We NEED OPEN STANDARDS when it comes to media on the web people!

I dont give a damn if flash is free, its buggy, and its in the control of one company.

Why only for the web? Funny how you don't complain about similar things that Apple does, but on the hardware level.

Ironic, imho.

:rolleyes:
 
such a short little conference...

Wow, I don't understand people. You criticize for missing features that other phones have, but basically turn the eye on them for not having all the features the iPhone has... it must be an expecations thing.

Speaking of which, wow does this little press event totally own the MS Windows Mobile 6.5 gig or what!? This was so lame but yet so SUBSTANTIAL...

I'd like to also add that Apple isn't perfect!!! But damn, they make everybody else look like crap! G:apple:!!
 
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