I agree. If TouchID exists in the beta for ios11 then why would TouchID not be available on the iPhone 8. iPhone 8 will come with ios11
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HomePod Firmware Suggests iPhone 8 Split Status Bar, Tap to Wake and No Touch ID Under Display
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There is no Touch ID references to D22, the codename for the OLED iPhone.
The firmware contains reference to Touch ID for other devices.
Just to be clear, Steven Troughton-Smith and the article both say there's nothing that suggests an under-the-display Touch ID solution, not that there are no references to Touch ID in general. It's sounding like the iPhone 8 won't have Touch ID at all, but in regard to this particular article, it's only saying that there's no under display Touch ID. Can't confirm/rule out some other Touch ID solution from this info.
Thank you. I'll hold up my hand and say I missed that detail. Still, far from conclusive evidence about a phone a couple of months out from release, in a firmware of a device 5 months out from release I'd say.
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Thanks for the clarification. Appreciate it.
What a failure.
I mean, the phone will sell millions and become their best-selling yet, but it's a complete design failure, that's for certain.
No touch ID - making Apple Pay more inconvenient. Split bar at the top - ugly design choice. No headphone jack (obvs).
Yikes all around.
I mean, the phone will sell millions and become their best-selling yet, but it's a complete design failure, that's for certain.
No touch ID - making Apple Pay more inconvenient. Split bar at the top - ugly design choice. No headphone jack (obvs).
Yikes all around.
Because iOS 11 is in beta, Apple is moving forward with the next versions' (iOS 11.0.x and 11.x) development already. HomePod is running one of those versions, which would have debuted after the public iOS 11 and iPhone 8 were released, therefore there was no reason to create a version of iOS 11.x.x that omitted those bits since the update shouldn't have dropped prior.
Apple did not provide this software to him via the developer program, they released it into the Internet for anyone, including myself, to download and decompile. I fail to see how it has anything to do with software provided to him under that agreement, which section 2 explicitly defines prerelease software provided directly through the developer portal.
This is Apple's screw up, not his lol. Just because they have some license doesn't mean it's applicable to everything they produce.
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I'd like the idea that even when its on a surface, the phone might be able to angle the infrared sensor to 3D map your face and unlock the device. Just tap to wake and the software will do just that. That will be considered a "magical feature"
Check out how this works on Galaxy S8. The home button is always "there" - under any given app. You just press harder (like 3D touch) the place where it should be and it brings you to home screen. You can also swipe from bottom to get a bar with home button if you prefer.
Unless an agreement specifically forbids from sharing code details like this, it would be petty of them to do it.
Still think the Apple logo on the back will be the touch ID sensor and Home button and will be marketed as: Apple ID.
...If they don't then their missing a trick...
...If they don't then their missing a trick...
I like how all of this was found in the firmware for a speaker.
I highly doubt Apple will be putting touch ID on the Apple logo. Seems completely unrealistic and a horrible idea on the back of the iPhone.
If Apple did implement Touch ID on the phone, my original assumption up until a few days ago was that it would be able to scan your finger under the entire screen. Thinking back though, the Chinese company that rushed out a prototype the other day makes me assume that even if Apple did implement it, it would only be under a specific portion of the screen. I don't know why that didn't click with me before, but now I don't really care about that missing feature if it was going to be so restrictive.
I've never been more worried about an iPhone release than I am this year. Face recognition is not a substitute for TouchID. It's just not. It's nothing to do with how good/bad the facial recognition is. Hell, it could work in the pitch black for all I care. It just kills so many of the uses many of us put our phone through without even thinking.
1.) The phone flat on the desk - unlocking with a finger. How will this work? Having to move my head over the phone for the camera to see me? OR using a passcode? OR reaching for an awkward rear-located TouchID sensor? Ugh..
2.) Having the phone unlocked before it's even out of my pocket? That goes away, too? (unless it's on the rear).
There are so many use cases where this is not a good change I can't even...
I'm trying to keep the faith in Apple, but this isn't really sounding good.
Well if it's not going to be on the front where else is it going to be?
Still hard to believe Apple would remove touchid after integrating it so much in the ios ecosystem.
I give more credence to someone looking at the code to give some validation to a rumour, than someone just sprouting and idea because it's what we might like and therefore we believe it.
(not taking aim at you Sunny, but your post is a good way to bring this up)
We've gone from Gruber's report of 'the Touch ID sensor, camera and speaker will somehow be under the display' to this.
Though tbh leapfrogging competitors with convenient, reliable and secure face scanning is much better than 'we moved the fingerprint scanner to the back' from the competition.
Though tbh leapfrogging competitors with convenient, reliable and secure face scanning is much better than 'we moved the fingerprint scanner to the back' from the competition.
He's actually Irish! So, like me, maybe he's even less trustworthy ☘️
No, no don't! You will jeopardise the future of Apple all by yourself, be gentle to us
May I refer you to the amazing piece of software known as Apple Maps
Here's hoping that they put touch id on the power button then, most elegant solution apart from in the display. No touchID would be a very hard sell, especially when the 7s will have touchID.
I'm not gonna pay significantly more for a phone that doesn't have touchID, however good facial recognition is gonna be. It's never gonna be better than opening the phone with your finger.
I'm not gonna pay significantly more for a phone that doesn't have touchID, however good facial recognition is gonna be. It's never gonna be better than opening the phone with your finger.