The Note 8 has already leaked in full, it has the fingerprint on the back, just like the S8. And whether Vivo have come up with something that works under the display is not really relevant here. The iPhone is going to be produced and sold in the hundred of millions devices, I highly doubt that the Vivo's tech is available in the required quantities and we don't even have a clue about how good it works etc.. And whether they would charge ridiculous fees in order for Apple to license the technology.
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HomePod Firmware Suggests iPhone 8 Split Status Bar, Tap to Wake and No Touch ID Under Display
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The Note 8 has already leaked in full, it has the fingerprint on the back, just like the S8. And whether Vivo have come up with something that works under the display is not really relevant here. The iPhone is going to be produced and sold in the hundred of millions devices, I highly doubt that the Vivo's tech is available in the required quantities and we don't even have a clue about how good it works etc.. And whether they would charge ridiculous fees in order for Apple to license the technology.
This is why I'm so excited about Apple finally removing TouchID... I can finally get robot hands! It's a needed decision.
If they remove completely touchID from this year's iPhone it won't come back, I agree on that.
Let's see how face recognition will work, I don't think Apple will release something half baked, if they remove touchID faceID will work at least as good as the fingerprint.
My main concern is sunglasses and scarfs during winter, I don't think they really care about women with burqa and using the pin will always be an option.
I'm curious about the home button. With iPhone 7 they got rid of the actual button but you can still press there, have a feedback and get home. I guess they'll use 3D touch or have some kind of toolbar at the bottom of the screen with home and other function buttons, I think that will be the only real surprise during the keynote.
Anyway I'm not sure I'll buy iPhone 8 or whatever they're calling it. I'm afraid the price will be too high so I may go for the 7s or 7s+ instead, and those models will have touchID as usual so I'll have another couple of years before worrying about the lack of fingerprint sensor
If FaceID is going to be so streamlined and non-intrusive as many people are hoping/suggesting (rather than press a button, hold up in front of face), then how do we think it's going to be prevented from activating all the time? If I have my phone on my desk next to me, I don't want it unlocking every time my face enters the (presumably wide-angle) IR zone. But if I've got to press a button to even activate FaceID scanning, then that's a big step back to the single-step Touch ID unlock.
Or maybe Apple will have us set up 'unlock faces' to prevent accidental unlocking; left eye closed, tongue touching nose and wiggling right ear. Come to think of it, does anyone remember this picture from one of Apples patents from several years ago? It all makes sense now!
Incidentally, wouldn't it be good if the Apple patent artists and the Apple emoji artists did a job-swap for a while?
Or maybe Apple will have us set up 'unlock faces' to prevent accidental unlocking; left eye closed, tongue touching nose and wiggling right ear. Come to think of it, does anyone remember this picture from one of Apples patents from several years ago? It all makes sense now!
Incidentally, wouldn't it be good if the Apple patent artists and the Apple emoji artists did a job-swap for a while?
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Passcode. TouchID wasn't all inclusive either. My father's fingertips are burnt away from working as a chef. My grandfather was a wood worker and he couldn't get TouchID to work on his iPad (from wear on fingerprints, but he's also missing a few fingers).
I know. It’s so funny reading people still complaining about the headphone jack AirPods FTW
You realize that you didn't need to be a developer to access this firmware. It was pushed out publicly by Apple last week as 'AudioAccessory 1,1" (for HomePod) in error. Strangely it was still available after all of these tidbits were being discovered and spoken about.
I thought the same.
I mean why they need to write a line of code that point out touchID is underneath the display. They just can use the same “TouchID” word and no one gonna notice that underneath the display.
As much as I absolutely love love love Touch ID and loved the headphone jack, these are 2 things that I have learned and will learn to live without.
As others have said, you can bet that Apple's facial recognition will be superb.
And to everyone saying "what about sunglasses, scarves, hijabs etc." I'm sure they figured it out. In regards to Touch ID, what about dry scaly fingers, gloves, wet/sweaty or cold hands? Exactly.
And don't forget there's always a passcode option...
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Thank you. Exactly what I just posted. This is not the end all be all and for the love of God I hope people stop saying that Pay requires Touch ID becauseeee it doesn't.
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What does HomePod have to do with facial recognition? Why would that be in the code? I guarantee that Face ID and the other features of the iPhone will be so major that people won't miss Touch ID. Just watch...
As others have said, you can bet that Apple's facial recognition will be superb.
And to everyone saying "what about sunglasses, scarves, hijabs etc." I'm sure they figured it out. In regards to Touch ID, what about dry scaly fingers, gloves, wet/sweaty or cold hands? Exactly.
And don't forget there's always a passcode option...
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Thank you. Exactly what I just posted. This is not the end all be all and for the love of God I hope people stop saying that Pay requires Touch ID becauseeee it doesn't.
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What does HomePod have to do with facial recognition? Why would that be in the code? I guarantee that Face ID and the other features of the iPhone will be so major that people won't miss Touch ID. Just watch...
No?
I said the lock button was growing to the size of the two volume buttons, ie getting longer. I never said it was replacing them.
Look at the leaked images. Volume buttons on one side, elongated "lock" button on the other which could easily house touch id.
Lool you keep throwing up a price tag the phone is not revealed we don’t know **** about the price.
The iPhone 7 Plus 256gb is £969 so that’s over $1000 already lool
I doubt this iPhone will be £1000 base model price. I’m guessing it will have 3 models based on the usual storage capacities an the 128gb version which I’ll be getting will probably cost £699 that’s my estimation. And I’m fine with that. £799 max price I’m betting for 128gb iPhone.
I just can't see how "faceID" would ever work as well as TouchID for Apple Pay. I now use apple Pay more than I ever use my contactless bank cards. Food & drink purchases during the day, payg on the tube, fuel... I can't get my head around how it work logistically.. So I would now place the phone on top of the rf reader/terminal and then lean over it so I'm looking down at it (or where most shops have them at hip/desk level) lean down so my face is in line with the device? its just bonkers... TouchID and the fingerprint technology underpins the confidence for banks to allow use of their payment cards with Apple Pay.. I know I work for one. They'll take a zero risk approach and not trust face Id is as secure as Touch ID until its tested and proven by themselves. This will likely mean a lot of banks not supporting apple pay from Day 1 on the new iPhone until they are convinced around the security framework it provides.
Facial recognition has already proven to be unreliable. Without Touch ID there is no Apple Pay.
Same here.
These days I leave home with my keys and my phone.
That is it.
Wallet languishes in my desk drawer.
If this face recognition thing does not work 101% and retailers get jittery about ApplePay or gets withdrawn I will be seriously pissed off at Apple.
I trust Apple have done their job… so… let's see.
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I have the same fear.
Fingers crossed…
I use Apple pay solely with my Apple Watch. I enter the pin in the morning and that's it, as long as I keep the Watch on my wrist I'm able to pay.
If banks accepted Apple Watch why wouldn't they accept face ID, if it works correctly?
I think the use case will change, you'll have to bring up Wallet by looking directly at the phone so your face is recognised, then you have X seconds to get to the terminal and pay.
Which is the reason I find this even more absurd.. for their new flagship phone to not include Apple Pay (the most dominant mobile payment tech on the market) just doesn't sit right with me. They've invested significantly to drop it all together there.
what I fear is that there will be a compromise, touch ID on the rear or elsewhere which again ergonomically ruins the experience.
I don't believe facial recognition could replace Touch ID... Apart from anything else it won't work in the dark. Everyone knows everyone checks their phone in bed. I think they'll figure something out.
works if you have a watch (probably the master plan to increase their sales?
) A change of UX would be on the cards yes, but the way you describe it just slows it all down. at the moment the software knows if the phone is near the RF reader and flips to the wallet and detects your fingerprint without me having to do anything apart from resting my finger on the home button.
If i now need to stare at my phone to unlock it, click to go the wallet, stare at my phone to authorise my payment and then place the devise on the terminal.. thats just rubbish.
I already get grief from commuters behind me on the tube for using Touch ID for payment as it is slower than traditional contactless cards (oyster or bank card).
You didn't move to wireless headphones before the iPhone 7, which suggests that wireless was not a priority to you.
However, with the iPhone 7 they tricked you to spend even more money on wireless headphones, and you consider this as an achievement without realizing that you could have purchase wireless headphones waaaay before the release of the iPhone 7.
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So, Apple brings fingerprint sensor to the masses, then makes it deprecated. So Apple
Well you know how the saying goes, "One hand giveth, the other taketh away…"So, Apple brings fingerprint sensor to the masses, then makes it deprecated. So Apple