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honest inquiry: Why did Apple frack-up so badly on the iPhone 4?

doug in albq

doug in albq

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So many different issues, both hardware and software, on a phone and mobile OS that should be reaching a level of maturity and usability by now.

also, it is funny that when the new phone prototype was found in a bar how many people commented on the "seams" around the edge of the phone...

it seems that those seams were more un-Apple, than just in form...

Flame away, this is simply an honest inquiry...what the heck is Apple thinking? I honestly thought Apple was above releasing products that appear to be only half-baked in both the software and hardware.
 
i think you are suffering from post release depression.

there really is minimal issues with the iPhone, Apple have done a fantastic job with it.
 
Pez555 said:
i think you are suffering from post release depression.

there really is minimal issues with the iPhone, Apple have done a fantastic job with it.
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Says the guy who doesn't own one. :rolleyes:

Way to blindly defend your allegiance.
 
Pez555 said:
i think you are suffering from post release depression.

there really is minimal issues with the iPhone, Apple have done a fantastic job with it.
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Agreed. The only real issue is the antenna thing, and even that, for all its validity as a problem, is a bit overblown IMO. No need to indict the entire phone/platform/company.
 
Pez555 said:
i think you are suffering from post release depression.

there really is minimal issues with the iPhone, Apple have done a fantastic job with it.
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I think you are suffering from acute fanboitis. Mucho problems with apple's 4th gen phone and OS.
 
zacharace said:
Agreed. The only real issue is the antenna thing, and even that, for all its validity as a problem, is a bit overblown IMO. No need to indict the entire phone/platform/company.
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Proximity sensor
Glass that breaks like glass
iOS glitches, many of them
I could go on...
 
What percentage of iPhone 4 owners are affected by each of these problems?
 
doug in albq said:
I think you are suffering from acute fanboitis. Mucho problems with apple's 4th gen phone and OS.
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Really? Because I'm loving mine. No dropped calls yet, fast OS, amazing display with no yellow spots. All my apps work without a problem now and the ones that had problems were updated by the developer. The camera takes great pictures with and without flash. Only bug mine had was a weird lock sound when I would lock it but it doesn't bother me since that's a software issue and it is very minor. (I just turned off the lock sound in settings)
My proximity sensor isn't failing either.
Oh and glass breaks, DUHHHHH! it's not made from diamonds
 
Press22 said:
Really? Because I'm loving mine. No dropped calls yet, fast OS, amazing display with no yellow spots. All my apps work without a problem now and the ones that had problems were updated by the developer. The camera takes great pictures with and without flash. Only bug mine had was a weird lock sound when I would lock it but it doesn't bother me since that's a software issue and it is very minor. (I just turned off the lock sound in settings)
My proximity sensor isn't failing either.
Oh and glass breaks, DUHHHHH! it's not made from diamonds
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+1,000,000

Not a single problem here.
 
BaldiMac said:
What percentage of iPhone 4 owners are affected by each of these problems?
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There are many uniformed people who don't know what the death-grip is and just think their signal is fluctuating for another cause because they can't correlate the two.

And there are those with perfectly unaffected iPhone units, which leads me to believe it's not a software issue.
 
Pez555 said:
i think you are suffering from post release depression.

there really is minimal issues with the iPhone, Apple have done a fantastic job with it.
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zacharace said:
Agreed. The only real issue is the antenna thing, and even that, for all its validity as a problem, is a bit overblown IMO. No need to indict the entire phone/platform/company.
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Agree and agree. This is a fantastic phone with minimal issues. There are always a few hiccups, and they'll be dealt with like always. The cracking on the back that some 3Gs had was dealt with appropriately, and the reception issues that a small minority of iPhone 4 owners are having will be addressed as well. It's been less than two weeks. Cripes.

The OS is a bit buggy, like almost all x.0 versions. It'll get debugged like 1.x, 2.x, and 3.x did. As much testing as programmers do, there's nothing like real world use to expose previously unrealized bugs.

OP, is this your first iPhone or your first experience with advanced technology? This isn't even remotely a big f**k up, in tech terms.
 
BaldiMac said:
What percentage of iPhone 4 owners are affected by each of these problems?
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who knows. You usually only hear the people who complain.

to the OP. "the glass breaks like glass" what were you expecting it to break like? I was personally hoping it would break like candy and then I can eat the pieces. Oh and for the people complaining about the proximity sensor, that because their face is too fat. Blame Apple because they're 400 lbs? Get out of here troll. Honestly.
 
chembox said:
There are many uniformed people who don't know what the death-grip is and just think their signal is fluctuating for another cause because they can't correlate the two.

And there are those with perfectly unaffected iPhone units, which leads me to believe it's not a software issue.
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I'm not sure what that has to do with my question. Without percentages, there is no real way to compare the issues with the iPhone 4 to similar products.
 
It doesn't matter how many people are affected Vs whose not affected, the P.R. damage has been done. When you mention the new iPhone to someone they instantly ask if you heard about the reception issue. It happened to me the other night when a lady asked me about it once she noticed what I was taking pictures with. Of course I showed her what happens and she got to see in person the dropped bars.

The last thing a company wants is bad press associated with a product, especially one that has gotten so much attention. All Apple can do now is wait for people to forget and let the issue go away. However, what do you think the first thing people will test in the next version of the iPhone!

The iPhone4 will always be known as the model with the death grip issue.
 
Have all the iPhone whiners never owned a ****** phone? I used to have a Samsung that I guarantee was at least ten times worse than any of these issues. The battery lasted for less than 12 hours brand new, and the software lagged behind the keys by about 8 seconds!

There was no class action lawsuit there. . .
 
hamish5178 said:
Have all the iPhone whiners never owned a ****** phone? I used to have a Samsung that I guarantee was at least ten times worse than any of these issues. The battery lasted for less than 12 hours brand new, and the software lagged behind the keys by about 8 seconds!

There was no class action lawsuit there. . .
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whining is the cool thing to do nowadays
 
iphone

Yes, the OP message smells like a bash to me. The iphone 4 is huge, smashing success. Theres no other way to paint it.
 
Press22 said:
Oh and glass breaks, DUHHHHH! it's not made from diamonds
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The glass is a hit and miss, some people are reporting cracks from a 3 foot drop on a rug, and some people are reporting it survived a rollercoaster fall. According to Apple, it's not just glass, it's 'chemically strengthened' and 'stronger than plastic', and that's why people are making a big deal when it scratches out of nowhere. It doesn't live up to it's hyped expectations.
 
Ghostmayne said:
who knows. You usually only hear the people who complain.

to the OP. "the glass breaks like glass" what were you expecting it to break like? I was personally hoping it would break like candy and then I can eat the pieces. Oh and for the people complaining about the proximity sensor, that because their face is too fat. Blame Apple because they're 400 lbs? Get out of here troll. Honestly.
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Maybe something that should be strong should not be made of glass, just a thought. I know of no bicycles or automobile frames made of glass...just one simple example.

Typical MR "page 1" apologists...let's get this thread to page two or three!
 
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