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How can I convince my Dad to let me get the iphone 3GS??? Like seriously?!?!?
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Who needs any of this stuff half their signatures betray their point automatically I have found that this forum is really just a place to make people feel good about themselves by being horrible to children. Some of these posts are so cliche they are almost soporific to read. Cue idiots looking at my profile to get dirt on me to insult! Quite low on here recently.
Dude, did you not read this stuff?? I DO save my money and I almost never buy anything! Now I'm just asking for a phone.
Personally, I would recommend that you try and talk in an adult and mature manner with your dad: Start with something along the lines of:
"I respect your view that I shouldn't get a new phone but can you please let me explain why I would like to upgrade it to the new one"
Then explain how you've looked after your current one for two years and are prepared to pay for the new one yourself so it won't cost him any money. Explain that you understand it's a lot of money but that you feel mature enough to be responsible for such an expensive phone. Try and think of some reasons as to why the new phone would be beneficial.
If he still says no, it's important not to turn it into a big argument because all that will happen will be he'll dig his heals in even more and you'll never get one: You need to take the confrontational aspect away from any conversation about the phone
Incidentally, how old are you? (only asking because it could be important in deciding how you should tackle the problem)
"I respect your view that I shouldn't get a new phone but can you please let me explain why I would like to upgrade it to the new one"
Then explain how you've looked after your current one for two years and are prepared to pay for the new one yourself so it won't cost him any money. Explain that you understand it's a lot of money but that you feel mature enough to be responsible for such an expensive phone. Try and think of some reasons as to why the new phone would be beneficial.
If he still says no, it's important not to turn it into a big argument because all that will happen will be he'll dig his heals in even more and you'll never get one: You need to take the confrontational aspect away from any conversation about the phone
Incidentally, how old are you? (only asking because it could be important in deciding how you should tackle the problem)
We are getting this because he wants an iPhone?
I wish I could get the actually number of people here who bugged their parents for something when they were younger and got it yet are here trying to bash the kids for this.
You forgot to put the "like" in there.
Anyways, what you consider flames are what other posters consider help. "Life's not fair, get over it" is only a flame in your eyes because that is not the advice you want to hear. All you want to listen to is advice where you end up with a new phone. If you didn't want to see disagreeing opinions, you might want to reconsider posting on an internet forum such as this.
Let's see. "We" don't have the money. Your father has the money. Or maybe he actually doesn't. Do you know how much debt your family has? Maybe your family was one of those that overspend $1000 or more every month and hoping that house prices will compensate? And he figured that is leading to bankruptcy? Maybe he used to do overtime, and now he's happy to have a full time job?
Parents tend to hide these kinds of problems from their kids. If that is the case, then your dad could be right now under a tremendous amount of stress, and having you wanting more and more and more and more doesn't help.
I'm 16
You forgot to put the "like" in there.
Anyways, what you consider flames are what other posters consider help. "Life's not fair, get over it" is only a flame in your eyes because that is not the advice you want to hear. All you want to listen to is advice where you end up with a new phone. If you didn't want to see disagreeing opinions, you might want to reconsider posting on an internet forum such as this.
I knew there was gonna be "constructive" criticism, but I didn't realize I would get apparently 100 adults yelling at me about it! I understand getting criticized completely, just not so much, thats all.
I mean haven't you guys ever tried to get something, your parents said "NO" so you asked some friends for some help?? Well hopefully when you did that, you didn't have evreyone saying criticism and like 5 people trying to help out of 100.
"I" have the money for it!!! We are not in debt. MONEY is not the issue. I have the money to get the phone and upgraded plan, etc. Its just my Dad says I don't need it, so I just want to get some ideas on what to say to convince him. What would you do if you were in my position?
Personally, I would think at 16 you're old enough to at least have a say in what you want to spend your own money on, and your Dad shouldn't be so hard on you!
My daughter's only 11 at the moment but if, when she gets to 16, she wanted to spend her savings the latest iPhone I'd certainly let her as long as I felt she was mature enough to look after it.
I'd definitely try and sit down and have a conversation with him to find out what his objections are. Once you know that, you can try and address them with sensible debate and counter point.
It could be that your Dad genuinely doesn't understand why you want to upgrade, and if you present your case well enough you could change his mind. Of course, he could also just be saying no to assert his authority, in which case you probably don't have much chance...
I am 21, so I am not an old fart talking about when I was a kid in the 1930's. When I bugged my parents for a toy, it was stupid things like $15 pegs for my bike, a pack of baseball or pokemon cards, some hotwheels, or stuff like that. I never bugged my parents for anything expensive. Ever, because I knew I wouldn't get it. When I worked, earning $6.50 an hour at my high school on the tech team, I had to save half of my paychecks for college. I was working 25 hours a week, so I brought home, after tax, maybe $130, - half I had to save: $65. When I got to school, I had sticker shock. $550 PER SEMESTER for books ($1100 a year), JUST for books alone. Food expenses? Actually doing stuff with friends, none of that is free.
So you saved your money, thats good. But do you really need a 3GS? Thats all. Car insurance for a 16 year old might be very expensive. I am paying $200 a month at age 21 with a perfect driving record. Thats more than my monthly car payment. Bills suck. Had I not saved a lot of money when I was younger, my current college life would be miserable. Every year I watch my debt climb and climb, but its lower than it could be.
Like I said before, parents house, parents rules. Don't like it? Move away.
Uh, I know you're 16, but like, your Dad when he becomes Grandpa, like, you know?
See the thread that you read from me regarding Dad becoming Grandpa. You're SOL.
Just let it alone but every time a new iphone commercial comes on scream look the new iphone i want that sooooo bad like seriously sorry op but its funny
that would probably work though
that would probably work though
Okay, that's enough. Cut the crap, everyone.
He has stated multiple times that he would be paying for the phone and service with his own money. He has also stated that his father would take the phone away or even involve the police should he go behind his father's back.
This behavior from the father leads me to believe that no amount of persuasion can convince him to allow his son to get a new phone.
This being said, OP, you need to stick with your 2G until such time as your father isn't making the rules. There is nothing we can do, and I feel pity for you for having a parent that is so narrow-sighted.
He has stated multiple times that he would be paying for the phone and service with his own money. He has also stated that his father would take the phone away or even involve the police should he go behind his father's back.
This behavior from the father leads me to believe that no amount of persuasion can convince him to allow his son to get a new phone.
This being said, OP, you need to stick with your 2G until such time as your father isn't making the rules. There is nothing we can do, and I feel pity for you for having a parent that is so narrow-sighted.
Just like 4 out of 5 dentists can't be wrong, 5 out of 100 usually are wrong. Yes, most of us are older, but we've been there. We are now wiser. Listen, and perhaps today is the day you grow up a bit. When you are 100% independent financially and out on your own, you can blow your money any way you want to.
People told me I didnt need my HDTV but I bought it anyways...just buy the phone and be happy if money is not an option, ur dad shouldnt have full control on how you spend your money since u 16
THIS DOESN"T WORK!!!! I'm not allowed to do this! If i do my phone will get taken away. My Dad won't even look at the commercial when it comes on!
I believe the same. However, with his father being as controlling as he has stated, the point stands.
Its the internet people will say what they want, I bet u half of these people wont talk all this trash in person
Speaking as a Dad who's had a similar experience with a teenager bugging him for similar items, I would back off for a few days and let everything calm down.
If your Mother supports you, sit down with the both of them next weekend and have a calm conversation about it. Don't lose you temper and have a strop because it will only make things worse.
Another thought, have you done anything lately that has upset your Dad? Is your bedroom a mess, have you been asked to do any household chores and not bothered doing them? Little things like this may not seem important to you but can drive you parents nuts and influence them to make awkward decisions in times like these.
At the end of the day, you will have to be prepared to accept that you might not be able to have a 3GS. Remember, your Dad is only doing what he thinks is right for you, even if you don't appreciate it at this time.
There are really two options.
1) do not buy the phone (now but perhaps later when your dad says you can)
2) buy the phone and deal with the consequences.
An often used phrase is that it's easier to give forgiveness than it is to give permission.
Perhaps your biggest problem (now) is that you pursued it too much instead of asking once and then buying it anyway. Or just buying it without asking altogether.
I'm not advocating going against your father. But like with anything you will face in life - there are ALWAYS options. We sometimes just don't like them
1) do not buy the phone (now but perhaps later when your dad says you can)
2) buy the phone and deal with the consequences.
An often used phrase is that it's easier to give forgiveness than it is to give permission.
Perhaps your biggest problem (now) is that you pursued it too much instead of asking once and then buying it anyway. Or just buying it without asking altogether.
I'm not advocating going against your father. But like with anything you will face in life - there are ALWAYS options. We sometimes just don't like them
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