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I also have a 2G iPhone. And guess what, dad is not paying for it. I am. He did offer to help me out, but I declines citing my own need to become more independent.

Ok. But my Dad won't even let me use my own money to get it!
 
What are your dad's objections to your buying the 3G S⃣ ? Does he have specific reasons that he has clearly stated? Conversely, what are YOUR reasons for wanting the new phone? Have you stated these to your dad? Who is paying the monthly cell phone bill? You or him? Is one of his objections around the fact that it will cost more per month to use a 3G phone as opposed to an Edge phone?

The source of the money you plan to use to buy the new phone may also be an issue -- ie, is it money you're planning to take out of your savings account that is meant for college?

It may just be that you're going to lose this round.....
 
What are your dad's objections to your buying the 3G S⃣ ? Does he have specific reasons that he has clearly stated? Conversely, what are YOUR reasons for wanting the new phone? Have you stated these to your dad? Who is paying the monthly cell phone bill? You or him? Is one of his objections around the fact that it will cost more per month to use a 3G phone as opposed to an Edge phone?

It may just be that you're going to lose this round.....

Why does it matter why his Dad objects? It's his house and his rules go. Maybe he made an agreement that the iPhone 2G would be kept and used until the OP was out of High School, etc.
 
What are your dad's objections to your buying the 3G S⃣ ? Does he have specific reasons that he has clearly stated? Conversely, what are YOUR reasons for wanting the new phone? Have you stated these to your dad? Who is paying the monthly cell phone bill? You or him? Is one of his objections around the fact that it will cost more per month to use a 3G phone as opposed to an Edge phone?

The source of the money you plan to use to buy the new phone may also be an issue -- ie, is it money you're planning to take out of your savings account that is meant for college?

It may just be that you're going to lose this round.....

He just doesn't want me to get the phone because he says I don't need it! It's not about paying the bill or how much it costs, he just says I don't need it and deserve it. And no, it's just my money that I've gotten from birthday's and stuff
 
That's why I asked some of the questions I did, to get this young man to THINK...... It doesn't matter to you or to me whether or not he can upgrade to a 3G S⃣ from his current 2G Edge iPhone, but it can matter to the OP to get an understanding of what his father is thinking and why his dad is objecting to this, as well as to clarify in his own mind just why he wants a new iPhone. There is "want" and there is "need." We're seeing a lot of "want" but not very much justification of "need...."


ETA: OK, the response came in as I was typing. There we are, then -- "want" as opposed to "need." Have you thought seriously about why you might "need" the new iPhone as opposed to simply wanting it? As for "deserving" it, that adds a whole other dynamic into the situation that is beyond discussion in this online forum, but it sounds as though there is a lot going on in your family. Since you've got the 2G Edge phone, presumably you're eligible for the subsidy this time, which is good, but again, there is the monthly cost, which is more for the 3G because of the way AT&T bills.

I don't think we're going to be able to help you persuade your dad to allow you to get the new iPhone.....you're going to have to come up with some really strong, compelling reasons as to why you need it as opposed to merely wanting it.
 
He just doesn't want me to get the phone because he says I don't need it! It's not about paying the bill or how much it costs, he just says I don't need it and deserve it. And no, it's just my money that I've gotten from birthday's and stuff

Don't lie, be honest about why you want it (feature wise). Also be honest who the 2G is becoming a set back as many features aren't available on it anymore. Mention the 3G speeds. Get imaginative but don't lie.
 
He just doesn't want me to get the phone because he says I don't need it! It's not about paying the bill or how much it costs, he just says I don't need it and deserve it. And no, it's just my money that I've gotten from birthday's and stuff

He prolly saying that becuz its a recession and he doesnt want you spending too much money on sumthin becuz he works hard and its harder for him to make money becuz the economy, and times are hard and he wants you to save money...thats understandable
 
He prolly saying that becuz its a recession and he doesnt want you spending too much money on sumthin becuz he works hard and its harder for him to make money becuz the economy, and times are hard and he wants you to save money...thats understandable

Is it that hard to type out probably. Or because. or Something?
 
He prolly saying that becuz its a recession and he doesnt want you spending too much money on sumthin becuz he works hard and its harder for him to make money becuz the economy, and times are hard and he wants you to save money...thats understandable

What recession? Apple is selling Macs and iPhones more than ever. Nothing has changed.

You guys need to stop watching too much faux news.
 
What recession? Apple is selling Macs and iPhones more than ever. Nothing has changed.

You guys need to stop watching too much faux news.

So you are saying there is no Recession? You better go outside that basement. For Apple everything is fine. However, the country itself is drowned in debt and in an economic recession.

Saving up your $$$ is one way of riding it out. Which is why I think OP's dad is trying to prevent OP from buying the 3GS.
 
I want the new iphone because it's been 2 years I've had this iphone and its starting to go whack now and its getting slower, internet wise and stuff, and i want the new one because of all its features, like MMS which I need, and if I upgrade I want to upgrade to a better phone, not a worse phone, so there's not many other choices to chose. He just says he doesn't want me to get it because I don't need it, it's pointless.

That and he just bought my bro a new guitar, that cost $500, for his b-day. And I haven't gotten anything for my past 3 b-days and it just doesn't seem far to me.
 
Is it that hard to type out probably. Or because. or Something?
No but its faster..dont argue lol


What recession? Apple is selling Macs and iPhones more than ever. Nothing has changed.

You guys need to stop watching too much faux news.
Apple is a freakin huge company, I dont see u selling millions lol
More people are suffering and its hard to get jobs...plenty has changed if u haven't noticed
 
I want the new iphone because it's been 2 years I've had this iphone and its starting to go whack now and its getting slower, internet wise and stuff, and i want the new one because of all its features, like MMS which I need, and if I upgrade I want to upgrade to a better phone, not a worse phone, so there's not many other choices to chose. He just says he doesn't want me to get it because I don't need it, it's pointless.

That and he just bought my bro a new guitar, that cost $500, for his b-day. And I haven't gotten anything for my past 3 b-days and it just doesn't seem far to me.

Honestly just go ahead and buy it, if u have the money, just buy it why do u need permission?
Or he prolly knows about the $30 data plan plus added text messaging plan and doesnt want to pay for all that

If you think it's worth saving maybe 5 seconds in exchange for sounding like an idiot and/or uneducated - so be it. :)

Thanks for understanding :)...are u an English professor? didnt think so
 
I want the new iphone because it's been 2 years I've had this iphone and its starting to go whack now and its getting slower, internet wise and stuff, and i want the new one because of all its features, like MMS which I need, and if I upgrade I want to upgrade to a better phone, not a worse phone, so there's not many other choices to chose. He just says he doesn't want me to get it because I don't need it, it's pointless.

That and he just bought my bro a new guitar, that cost $500, for his b-day. And I haven't gotten anything for my past 3 b-days and it just doesn't seem far to me.

First - if you start comparing sibling to sibling, you'll lose. Expect nothing and you won't be disappointed. Tough facts... Perhaps your father thinks it's important to nurture a musical talent vs buying new technology. Not knowing your family at all - no one here can judge"

You NEED MMS? Or just want MMS? Not to be mean - do you know the difference between NEED and WANT?

Wanting to replace a faulty device or even one that is causing problems is one thing. If you can demo your issues (ACTUAL problems) with your current device and explain that THAT is why you want to upgrade, perhaps he will understand.

Something tells me you aren't approaching the subject in a rational/intelligent matter but rather a I want - I want manner...
 
He just doesn't want me to get the phone because he says I don't need it!

Your dad sounds like a wise man.

Do you really NEED the 3G S . I mean really need it?

Do you NEED a compass? probably not.
Do you NEED the GPS? Probably not, while it's nice, you don't NEED it.
Do you NEED a slightly better camera? Again, while it's nice, you don't NEED it.


Do you NEED a cell phone. I would almost say no, but it's becoming normal now, so be glad you have the iPhone at all and not some cheapo free with any plan samsung phone. My kids will most likely only get a basic phone, nothing more.

The iPhone is a luxury item that someone who can't even sign their own contract doesn't NEED.

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No one NEEDS MMS, they just want it.
Just take a picture and email it.
 
Honestly just go ahead and buy it, if u have the money, just buy it why do u need permission?
Or he prolly knows about the $30 data plan plus added text messaging plan and doesnt want to pay for all that

Its NOT about the money! We have the money! He just doesn't want me to get it cause he says I don't need it.
So now how do I convince him to let me get it???
 
Its NOT about the money! We have the money! He just doesn't want me to get it cause he says I don't need it.
So now how do I convince him to let me get it???
Maybe it really is about the money but he just not telling u
Just tell him if u allow me to get it, I promise I will get a job and get good grades and study hard in school
 
I haven't read this thread -- but what's the "bottom line"? Whose name is on the account and who's paying the bills?

This is a 1 or 2 word answer ....
 
Maybe it really is about the money but he just not telling u

ITS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY!!! I know that!

Your dad sounds like a wise man.

Haha, my Dad says that about himslef too... all the time.

I haven't read this thread -- but what's the "bottom line"? Whose name is on the account and who's paying the bills?

My Dad's name is on the account and my Dad is paying the bills.


OK, sure NO I don't need the phone. But I want to upgrade and I want a phone nicer then the phone I have now, aka the like only choices are iphone 3G or 3GS, so I choose the 3GS.

I don't need all your guys saying get a job, you don't "NEED" it.
Ok, I understand that!
ALL I'M ASKING is how do I convince my Dad to let me get this phone with MY OWN money, when money is not the issue?!?!?
 
Hey man, sometimes dads word is final. And as long as you live under his roof, it is what it is. Thats how my father was, iron fist but it taught me alot about valuing the things you do have. Having a 2g is better than nothing at all right
 
GET A JOB
thats what i did now my parents pay 10 dollars for my phone service and i pay for the dataa which is 30 dollars a month
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^ You're a very mature lad.
I agree, if the OP wants an expensive phone, he/she should pay for it, plus the premium data rate.

Offer to pay the upgrade price, and difference from your current monthly plan and he should have no problems :)

On the off chance he still won't agree, I would let it be for awhile and try again later. Some parents want their young ones to be appreciative of what they have instead of wanting new things all the time. Maybe he's testing you to see if you always "need" the latest and greatest?
 
My Dad's name is on the account and my Dad is paying the bills.

Bro ... you're dad's in charge (or so it seems) and he's saying "no".

I mean, without knowing the man, how are we to suggest something that's going to convince him otherwise. We don't know what his "soft spots" are, as it were.

He's got his reasons - maybe you should ask him what they are. He probably wants you to worry about other stuff. Besides, the fact that you're flailing about, and asking an internet forum what to do about YOUR dad, indicates that you should probably just be happy with what you got.

HE'S paying your bills and HE got you an iPhone in the first place ... sheesh kiddo, show some appreciation :rolleyes:

When you want to start putting stuff in your own name, go nuts and get a 3GS.
 
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