How the Mouse Pointer Deals with the Notch on the MacBook Pro

[Unity451]

Just don't put the cursor behind the notch during a meeting or everyone will see a giant arrow obscuring your face.

Under-rated comment of the thread.

 

[newbmacuser2021]

You can run 120 fps on an Apple laptop. With the brightest screen. The most pixels ever. The fastest CPU and GPU. The most RAM. In pixel perfect 16:10.

With an HDMI port, a Magsafe Charger, the best keyboard ever made, a 3.5mm audio jack, and an SD card slot. In addition to Thunderbolt 4.

And a 1080p camera.

Plus a whole bunch of other great things.

 

[blazerunner]

LOL! Apple actually doubled down on the stupid notch. What an embarrassment.

I've been holding out on a proper MacBook upgrade for so long, I've got a 2012 MacBook Pro (the one with a DVD drive) and now that they almost released a nearly perfect laptop, they gave it the idiotic notch AND made it look like a MacBook from 2007...

😖

 

[mikethemartian]

 

[Apple2GS]

LOL! Apple actually doubled down on the stupid notch. What an embarrassment.

I've been holding out on a proper MacBook upgrade for so long, I've got a 2012 MacBook Pro (the one with a DVD drive) and now that they almost released a nearly perfect laptop, they gave it the idiotic notch AND made it look like a MacBook from 2007...

😖

The choice is a large bezel or a notch. In full screen mode the notch is gone, from what I've seen, the top of the App is below the notch.. In non-full screen mode, the notch is in the menu bar. Seems like a great solution to me.

 

[steve62388]

I have an even better question. Did they make the notch this big on purpose, so that they can shrink it in two years and call it innovation or because they originally wanted to put more sensors behind it and do they still plan to introduce FaceID on the Mac in the future? 🤔

Right now we have a big ugly notch with no real purpose! 🙅

I was thinking similar about FaceID. Maybe implement it later with a minimal rework? Or perhaps they intended to have FaceID but couldn’t quite get it working because of supply or engineering issues (and it was too late for a redesign)?

 

[Shirasaki]

I have no issues with the notch.

I absolutely don't understand all the notch haters who outdo each other at finding ever more extreme ways to express their disdain for the notch. I mean, seriously, how much can you hate such a relatively insignificant detail

It still seems ludicrous to me that people are complaining about getting more screen real estate.

If you have the choice between no notch with less screen real estate and a notch that can either allow for more screen real estate or look the same as if it weren't there, then the latter has only advantages and no disadvantages. The notch is all upside, no downside.

Wow, another complete apple defender. “Nothing apple does has downsides and all upsides”.

Notch eats away menu bar space to trade 16:10 app aspect ratio. Nothing comes without a cost, and menu bar is the cost. Everyone loves more screen real estate, but the way it happens MATTER.

Back in 2017 notch was a compromise because under screen camera was not a thing. Now? I’d be legit surprised for apple to not introduce a notch on their iPad Pro lineup just because, as notch has become a distinguish design element as important as apple logo but less elegant.

 

[blazerunner]

The choice is a large bezel or a notch. In full screen mode the notch is gone, from what I've seen, the top of the App is below the notch.. In non-full screen mode, the notch is in the menu bar. Seems like a great solution to me.

There should just be an option to turn off / turn black all the pixels above the notch and have slightly less screen real estate. I don't care for full screen mode, i find it ridiculous because 1) I lose the dock and 2) I lose the menu bar.

They should have left it like it was on the 2019 MacBook Pro. Nothing wrong with it.

 

[Shirasaki]

the notch is in the menu bar.

Which eats away menu bar space and potentially obstruct menu items.

 

[Shirasaki]

There should just be an option to turn off / turn black all the pixels above the notch and have slightly less screen real estate. I don't care for full screen mode, i find it ridiculous because 1) I lose the dock and 2) I lose the menu bar.

They should have left it like it was on the 2019 MacBook Pro. Nothing wrong with it.

Maybe third party apps could spring in and offer fake top bezel so people who prefer full screen realestate don’t have to see the ugly notch from time to time.

 

[!!!]

Apple is taking steps to make the notch less of an annoyance for most customers in day-to-day use

But according to all the notch-apologists the notch is suppose to never be an annoyance or get in the way of anything ever? In fact, I thought we were just suppose to stare at it and enjoy the fact that we have a hole in the screen as opposed to the rest of the rectangular-laptop-screen users who will have to stare at their perfectly straight screen edges.

 

[blazerunner]

Maybe third party apps could spring in and offer fake top bezel so people who prefer full screen realestate don’t have to see the ugly notch from time to time.

I would ALWAYS be seeing it considering I never use apps in full screen. The notch is an incredible eye sore. I can't believe someone suggested it, designed it and then people at Apple approved it.

 

[newbmacuser2021]

But according to all the notch-apologists the notch is suppose to never be an annoyance or get in the way of anything ever? In fact, I thought we were just suppose to stare at it and enjoy the fact that we have a hole in the screen as opposed to the rest of the rectangular-laptop-screen users who will have to stare at their perfectly straight screen edges.

The new 2021 MacBook Pros are perfectly straight.

The bottom corners on the new 2021 MacBook Pros are 90 degree angles.

Look at the photos.

 

[Stella]

I haven't heard anyone say the notch itself is useful. What I have heard, and feel, is that the extra screen space to either side of the notch being used to hold the menu bar is far more useful than the bezel it replaces, and that the notch in the middle of the menu bar is not that big an inconvenience to pay for it.

I agree that having a notch is worth the extra screen space, a reduced bezel size, and a better quality camera, if that what it takes.

As for you haven't heard anyone say the notch itself is useful.... this very story itself claims the notch can be useful!

Quote:
"This behavior will come in handy, fundamentally making the notch a hiding place for the mouse pointer. This may come in good use, for example, when users want to more easily hide the mouse pointer while they watch a video."

( Like I said originally, a media player should hide the cursor for you )

 

[Shirasaki]

they've just moved the TouchBar

Minus customisability and touch capability.

So do you prefer having a black bezel and no screen on the sides of the camera as on older models, or no camera at all?

I need a camera plus I don’t care about screen around the notch so I prefer a black bezel. Those extra screen is not needed.

You are not. Apple did enough market research. It is just that the vocal minority sometimes might make you feel that way

More like a 50/50 split among a 20% vocal monitory and other 80% will just deal with it one way or another.

 

[NYC Russ]

Anyone else use iStat menus? I love it. Really makes my Mac mine. I just love it. This is where the notch becomes a dealbreaker for me. Let’s see what Apple rolls out in a few years.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/istat-menus/id1319778037

 

[brofkand]

Incredible, I've waited 20 years to be able to hide my mouse cursor behind a notch. Thank you Apple!

 

[rolphi]

I can't believe how much time and attention this non-issue has already taken up. At least it gives another litmus test on when to not care about a person's opinion and that's if they feel strongly about this notch.

 

[mozumder]

LOL! Apple actually doubled down on the stupid notch. What an embarrassment.

I've been holding out on a proper MacBook upgrade for so long, I've got a 2012 MacBook Pro (the one with a DVD drive) and now that they almost released a nearly perfect laptop, they gave it the idiotic notch AND made it look like a MacBook from 2007...

😖

It’s because people like me asked for a notch or else we won’t buy it.

 

[dogstar]

is there any way I can hide my drugs in the notch when I have to go to the airport?

 

[bobtem]

How about Siri says "You'll have to move your mouse down"...

 

[Shirasaki]

I would ALWAYS be seeing it considering I never use apps in full screen. The notch is an incredible eye sore. I can't believe someone suggested it, designed it and then people at Apple approved it.

Given how many people just on this forum vehemently defend apples notch decision, apple knows very well they will gain a sizeable support so that they will break even without any problem.

 

[jaceapoc]

I mean, we finally got pro machines, the performance of those will be impressive. No doubt, Apple delivered.

But where's the Apple "touch", y'know? Why have they changed the shape/design of the TouchID key & power button on the keyboard... Why an all-blacked out keyboard layout on an aluminum chassis... Why include a notch if it's not gonna have FaceID... Why make it look so brick-like... Ngl boys, per Apple standards, this new product line is ugly AF in my opinion

 

[Deacon-Blues]

Having a notch on a laptop screen is a Costco sized box of stupid. This design choice, without question, involved several people saying, “Hold my beer.” They’re bad and they should feel bad. I just can’t get over it, they actually put a notch in a laptop screen. SMHLOLWTF

 

[John Grabowski]

Another example (there have been so many since Steve Job's death) of Apple solving something that nobody thought was a problem in the first place. Nobody looked at their old MacBooks and said, "Aw, geese, I wish there were a NOTCH here!" Nobody.