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I did return mine. The hazard is still there even though I returned mine. Imagine the horror if someone you loved had a heart attack and while laying on the floor they look up and see someone who was too stupid to return their Iphone 4 cursing the thing because it has no service and they can't dial 911.

What if they used they used the speaker phone and offered help to their loved one at the same time. Or they could always use the old stand-by of sending the dog for help.

MNkid - Astroturfing since 6/10
 
I think its a good idea to contact the FCC, so that Apple will be more motivated to fix this problem and not leave customers with a flawed phone.

So you think all it will take is several hundred FCC complaints from pissed off customers who are most likely not going to represent themselves well in their complaint(s)? The videos of their "failing" brand new and long-awaited phone plastered all over the web, thousands of threads, articles and what-have-you isn't enough?

Let them work and it will get fixed.

Apple's products are all years ahead of most of the other tech-related products on the market today - this type of evolution/creativity/mastermind is going to come with a defect here and there but as we have seen with all of their other products, Apple will fix it and will come back better and stronger than ever.

Fink :apple:
 
What if they used they used the speaker phone and offered help to their loved one at the same time. Or they could always use the old stand-by of sending the dog for help.

MNkid - Astroturfing since 6/10

homing pigeon...you dont have one?
 
What if they used they used the speaker phone and offered help to their loved one at the same time. Or they could always use the old stand-by of sending the dog for help.

MNkid - Astroturfing since 6/10

That's possible, or they might use smoke signals because there is no way that the pos iPhone 4 will work.

I applaud your creativity and willingness to turn a blind eye to Apple. Kudos.
 
That is so nice of you to be soo concerned about the health and safety of the people. But instead of protesting a phone based on an extremely weak scenario.
Spend your time trying to feed the hungry, find work for the unemployed, Or maybe take on this F'in OIL SPILLas a cause!!!!!!!! I mean if there was ever a public safety issue it is that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So many bigger issues in life than worrying about the iPhone 4.

I too dont like the signal situation. However, I can return it buy a different phone and move on, OR I can keep it and SHUT MY MOUTH, because I knew what the deal was before I was stuck and choose to stay put.
 
So you want to falsely file a claim with a federal agency? Sounds like a great idea buddy. Also, encouraging others to do the same is an extension of the crime. Additionally, with no hard number on how many people this is actually effecting makes it a waste of time. Good luck though, you'll need it.
 
That is so nice of you to be soo concerned about the health and safety of the people. But instead of protesting a phone based on an extremely weak scenario.
Spend your time trying to feed the hungry, find work for the unemployed, Or maybe take on this F'in OIL SPILLas a cause!!!!!!!! I mean if there was ever a public safety issue it is that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So many bigger issues in life than worrying about the iPhone 4.

I too dont like the signal situation. However, I can return it buy a different phone and move on, OR I can keep it and SHUT MY MOUTH, because I knew what the deal was before I was stuck and choose to stay put.

So let me get this straight. You want me to feed the poor, employ the unemployed and stop the Gulf spill so that you have time to complain about somebody who is complaining?

Got it!
 
That's possible, or they might use smoke signals because there is no way that the pos iPhone 4 will work.

I applaud your creativity and willingness to turn a blind eye to Apple. Kudos.

Can't use spoke signals, the EPA, another of your favorite Gov agencies, won't let us. I am not turning a blind eye. My phone works just like I expected thats why I'm keeping it. I'm not saying no one is having trouble and that Apple can't make a product that sucks. Just relax and take care of yourself. You never know which of your loved ones will be holding a crappy phone just when you need it
 
So you want to falsely file a claim with a federal agency? Sounds like a great idea buddy. Also, encouraging others to do the same is an extension of the crime. Additionally, with no hard number on how many people this is actually effecting makes it a waste of time. Good luck though, you'll need it.

I could not dial 911, or any other number, when I held my iPhone 4. Where is the false claim?

Are you saying that people are just lying and that there really is no reception issue? Is that you Steve?
 
Oh god...really?

I don't get it. If you're unsatisfied with the reception on your iPhone 4 you are still well within the return window. Take it back, then just get another phone.

Yeah, gotta say, I'm with these guys on this one. It's a good thing :apple: didn't give away a free cup of HOT coffee with every iPhone 4 purchased--can you imagine how many lawsuits for coffee burns we'd be seeing right now :(
 
I could not dial 911, or any other number, when I held my iPhone 4. Where is the false claim?

Are you saying that people are just lying and that there really is no reception issue? Is that you Steve?

so you are so dumb and unwilling to possibly hold your phone a slight bit different when you KNOW what the cause is, in the case of an emergency?
 
so you are so dumb and unwilling to possibly hold your phone a slight bit different when you KNOW what the cause is, in the case of an emergency?

Thank you, that is my whole point. Rational thinking rarely plays a role in an emergency. No one is going to stop and think to hold the phone a certain way if blood is spurting around. Muscle memory takes over and you hold the phone the same way you always did before. For a surprising amount of people that is in their left hand, slightly cupped, with their skin shorting the antenna gap on an iPhone 4.

If you are in an area with less than perfect signal that is a recipe for disaster.
 
I don't get it. If you're unsatisfied with the reception on your iPhone 4 you are still well within the return window. Take it back, then just get another phone.

Come on man.....everyone is having a hard time understanding!!! It's not like we don't like our phone!!! Jesus!!! It's the fact that some of us have never had this reception issue until iphone 4.......AND IT'S FRUSTRTING!!! Where did you misunderstand that this is a "forum" where people express their feelings if you don't appreciate that then you should go else where.....most of us are just frustrated that we bought a PHONE! And can't use it as a PHONE......
 
Thank you, that is my whole point. Rational thinking rarely plays a role in an emergency. No one is going to stop and think to hold the phone a certain way if blood is spurting around. Muscle memory takes over and you hold the phone the same way you always did before. For a surprising amount of people that is in their left hand, slightly cupped, with their skin shorting the antenna gap on an iPhone 4.

If you are in an area with less than perfect signal that is a recipe for disaster.

come on now... This isnt the persons first call ever with the iphone 4.

I have the phone...use my left hand and have my hand over the notch and I can call just fine. Does my reception drop? Sometimes...enough to prevent me from calling 911? Nope. People are over exaggerating the problem and intentionally trying to make calls fail because they know about the problem.

I work in a hospital where most nurses (which is darn near 70% of the staff) has Iphones and lots of them got the new one. They dont follow the forums like we do and they dont seem to have problems with it. Its the people who have been told about the problem, read about it or seen the video that try and make it worse than it is. Like you
 
come on now... This isnt the persons first call ever with the iphone 4.

I have the phone...use my left hand and have my hand over the notch and I can call just fine. Does my reception drop? Sometimes...enough to prevent me from calling 911? Nope. People are over exaggerating the problem and intentionally trying to make calls fail because they know about the problem.

I work in a hospital where most nurses (which is darn near 70% of the staff) has Iphones and lots of them got the new one. They dont follow the forums like we do and they dont seem to have problems with it. Its the people who have been told about the problem, read about it or seen the video that try and make it worse than it is. Like you

You need to read the post above yours.....I'm not over stating things.....I get worse service with my iphone 4 now than I did with my iphone 3g.....those are facts not made up!
 
come on now... This isnt the persons first call ever with the iphone 4.

I have the phone...use my left hand and have my hand over the notch and I can call just fine. Does my reception drop? Sometimes...enough to prevent me from calling 911? Nope. People are over exaggerating the problem and intentionally trying to make calls fail because they know about the problem.

I work in a hospital where most nurses (which is darn near 70% of the staff) has Iphones and lots of them got the new one. They dont follow the forums like we do and they dont seem to have problems with it. Its the people who have been told about the problem, read about it or seen the video that try and make it worse than it is. Like you

That is anecdotal at best, and you calling my not being able to use the iPhone 4 a lie at worst.

You can use it but I can't use it, both are anecdotal. To settle it everyone who does not have a problem should not file a complaint. Everyone that is having a problem please file a complaint.
 
Come on man.....everyone is having a hard time understanding!!! It's not like we don't like our phone!!! Jesus!!! It's the fact that some of us have never had this reception issue until iphone 4.......AND IT'S FRUSTRTING!!! Where did you misunderstand that this is a "forum" where people express their feelings if you don't appreciate that then you should go else where.....most of us are just frustrated that we bought a PHONE! And can't use it as a PHONE......

Yes this is a forum where we can share your feelings as many have. There are about a billion threads about reception now and I have stayed away from most of them until this one. Asking people to report to the FCC about the problem and hoping to have sales of the phone stop and all "in the wild" shut down, that was just to much for me.
 
Wow probably one of the dumbest things i have read since joining this forum.....how is it fraud when it is true.....Is that you Steve Jobs?

did you actually try calling 911? If not...its fraud. Lets see a screenshot
 
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