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My big question is: how do I add a place in Apple Maps?

In Google it was easy, even outside USA.

1 - Drop a pin
2 - View the info on the pin
3 - Report a Problem
4 - Place does not exist

I agree it should be more obvious. Apple needs as many people as possible to be adding missing locations. However, Yelp will probably be the source for adding new businesses, not directly in Maps.
 
Can you get me the link to that statement about the "most powerful mapping service ever"? It's not a part of Apple's iOS 6 info.

Easy.

http://www.apple.com/ios/maps/

"Designed by Apple from the ground up, Maps gives you turn-by-turn spoken directions, interactive 3D views, and the stunning Flyover feature. All of which may just make this app the most beautiful, powerful mapping service ever."
 
Can you get me the link to that statement about the "most powerful mapping service ever"? It's not a part of Apple's iOS 6 info.

Peace,
Gene

This is what they say at http://www.apple.com/ios/maps/

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Personally I don't think this solution is good enough. It's great to hear that Apple Maps is sort of open source in a sense, however it's no good releasing an app that's so far from having complete/accurate data, as well as completely taking away the complete solution that's already been in place for some time.

I am a regular Google Maps app user, and I've already lost the ability to successfully find places I need to go since the update to Apple Maps. My biggest problem with Apple Maps is the severe lack of quality or complete lack of satellite imagery. For me this has become a huge help in finding places visually. As well as this, Street View became extremely helpful. As an example, I tried searching for a place in Brisbane where I needed to attend a meeting via Apple Maps recently and I could not work out where exactly the building was. Then I used my uncles iPad which has not been upgraded, and google maps quickly allowed me to visually find the place via satellite imagery, as well as some points of interest, but also Street View allowed me to even focus on where the entrance was to the building.

Apple seems to think its just the Points of Interest that are the problem, however it's not! I'm surprised this is not getting mentioned more in this thread. The satellite imagery needs a huge rework and the addition of something like street view needs to be added. If I zoom in on my home town of Swansea in the UK, the satellite imagery all over the city and suburbs is just pointless as its so blurry, low quality, some parts not in colour and other parts totally missing! There's also a significant amount of roads missing, this is not something I can report by pressing a button. In fact, some places such as the Cayman Islands are completely void of any roads!

The app should not have been released so quickly and promoted as a complete solution, and completely taking away the previous solution that had been working so well. I understand if this was the only solution if relationships with google had broken down, however surely it's apples decision to remove the google maps app.

The only positive for me are that the Apple Maps look good aesthetically. It's a shame that I'm more of a hybrid or satellite user though.

In regards to reporting problems, apple needs to promote a more comprehensive solution in adding missing roads, area names, etc not just points of interest. It's a real shame all this work is involved in creating the app without a real backup solution (other than using google maps through the browser).

Yeah...seems like they have some serious ground to make up outside the US. Lets see how fast they can get this corrected.
 
Good news in all this

I was also immediately disappointed with an inaccuracy right off the bat, but just discovered some very good news. The distance for routes (travel times) are extremely accurate in IOS 6 Maps. Google maps are always grossly off - always way longer than in actual travel time. This will be a nice treat.
 
I'm 253 posts late in the game, but I cannot see how APPL can drop the friggin' ball on this. It's not like M$ where you have a billion permutations of hardware scenarios! Really?

I love Apple as much as the next person and have been supporting them since 2006 when I wrote my MBA paper on the company, but this fiasco is JUST as worse as the iCloud debacle.

For a multi-BILLION dollar company, words cannot express how this is beyond unacceptable this is. Why would -anyone- release hardware when a key piece of software is broken.

It's beyond me. And to be honest, pisses me off because I tell all my friends 'n family how great APPL is and now this garbage happens.

Embarrassing and pathetic for all apple fanboys.
 
Google Maps was, and always has been, free. The iPhone5 cost me $899 to take home an unlocked one, and the Maps app is the number one non-hardware feature they're advertising about the phone (http://www.apple.com/iphone/built-in-apps/).

I don't want to be a part of a crowdsourcing community. I have zero interest in taking time out of my day to communicate with Apple about their map inaccuracies. I want a map that works, as advertised, out of the box. If Apple wants help with their map data they can pay me my freelance rate.

They advertised maps and YouTube as the major deal breakers for the original iPhone despite the fact that the YouTube app only played about 10% of the videos on the site and Maps back then was no better than the current Apple Maps app. People still bought it. If you are folish enough to spend almost $1,000 for a phone when maps is what you really need, perhaps a GPS is what you should have purchased. And to say Google Maps was always free is a joke, I don't remember them giving away the other iPhones.
 
As has been pointed out before, Google was not allowed, by its data suppliers, to let anyone else make turn by turn apps. Apple had to negotiate their own contract to be able to do that.

This is because data providers make most of their money selling map data for personal and built-in auto GPS units. It is not in their interest to let every yahoo on the planet make a TBT app using their data, for free.



Sidenote: TomTom bought TeleAtlas, which is generally ranked below Navteq in accuracy and completeness.

However, TomTom has already said that Apple's woes are not the fault of TomTom's map data.

Apparently it's all in how they interpret the data and map it to other information.



Microsoft Bing Maps have a 3D "birds eye" view at least in the USA: they used low flying airplanes to collect the images instead of satellites.

As for Nokia, they bought Navteq, one of the best mapping sources in the world. (Google used to use them for their US maps, before that. Garmin still uses Navteq.)



Smoother than the ancient iOS version, yes. Google Maps on Android has had vector rendering for quite some time now.



Android has had a far superior set of Google apps for a while, including transit maps, building interiors, and true turn-by-turn voice aided Navigation. The iPhone never got all those features.

Exactly my point.

Apple was faced with either renegotiating to the tune of more money over a feature they didn't have full control. OR take their lumps early but have the ability to develop their own mapping solution they could update and do whatever they wanted.

Competition is the name of the game, and maps (as has been vigorously stated by those who abhor Apple's maps) are a key part of each OS. Why should Apple continue to be stuck under Google's thumb? And why should Apple let Google have all the data it's (Apple's) user base can provide?

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Oh btw, if you feel the money you spent on your iPhone is wasted because the Apple maps are quite there yet (you saying they're broken is like me saying they're amazing - for some they work and for some they don't) you probably should've just bought a $150 GPS.....

Laughable that you complainers dismiss every other key feature and update because ONE app isn't perfect (again, for some it works for some it doesn't)....

Really it's of little consequence to me. I'm here for the back and forth - sharpening the mental sword and what not. But it's like talking with a brick wall a lotta times.
 
They advertised maps and YouTube as the major deal breakers for the original iPhone despite the fact that the YouTube app only played about 10% of the videos on the site and Maps back then was no better than the current Apple Maps app.

Which was wrong, they shouldn't have done that, and they deserved whatever flack they got for it.

If you are folish enough to spend almost $1,000 for a phone when maps is what you really need, perhaps a GPS is what you should have purchased.

Apple advertises it as "The most powerful mapping service ever." If theirs is the most powerful, what does that make Google Maps or a GPS box, and why would you recommend those over the Apple claim? Are you agreeing that Apple's maps are not the most powerful?

And to say Google Maps was always free is a joke, I don't remember them giving away the other iPhones.

This doesn't even make sense. maps.google.com is a free service and always has been. The Google Maps app on the iPhone simply used the free Google Maps API as an interface to Google Maps' data. What does this have to do with giving away phones, and why would Google be in the habit of doing that?
 
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Which is seen as the reason Apple broke away from Google.....Google's restriction of the maps API was so much that Apple couldn't add new features or innovate.

Hence we have Apple maps with vector-rendering, more detailed POI cards and turn-by-turn nav.

Don't drink the Apple kool-aid. Apple is the one that refused to update the original Google Maps app since they are the ones who wrote it. If Google wanted to restrict things, it wouldn't have released a much better YouTube app for iOS compared to the craptacular one from Apple that never once saw an update.
 
How do you report missing Google Maps?

But apple sold 5 million iPhones ?!
Doesn't that mean there isn't a map problem?
It means customers used Google Maps to find the Apple Store.

How do you report missing places?
Mapping out the entire world in 3D takes much longer than the relatively short time Apple has been at it.

My question is, "How do you report missing Google Maps?"
 
So we can agree that the hardware and software is an integrated solution just like a computer with an operating system and a browser?

I'll instead agree that the hardware I have comes with default software that I choose to use or not. Just like a computer with an operating system and a browser. I might have paid for the OS that came with the hardware that provided IE as a default browser but, because I haven't cared for the user experience with IE in the past, I'll choose another browser.

iOS 5 and prior came with google maps as a default piece of software. I paid $400.00 for that piece of hardware with its default software. However, I had to choose other mapping solutions because I needed turn-by-turn, which was never going to come with google maps. As for public transport, I use Embark or Navigon in the few cities where I need it (Philly, London). Here in Denver, not needed.

Now iOS 6 comes along with Apple maps by default, with turn-by-turn. While a step in the right direction I'll still use other applications to fulfill that function because, as noted by many, the default iOS mapping app has a long way to go, especially given it is 1.0 (which often translates to "beta" or late stage "alpha").
 
Don't drink the Apple kool-aid. Apple is the one that refused to update the original Google Maps app since they are the ones who wrote it. If Google wanted to restrict things, it wouldn't have released a much better YouTube app for iOS compared to the craptacular one from Apple that never once saw an update.

But YouTube has never been seen as a competitive advantage between Android and iOS - Google Maps was/is.

I'm not drinking any kool-aid. I didn't buy my iPhone based on its GPS capabilities. Honestly I'd advise all the people who are so up in arms about this and can't understand why Apple would build their own mapping solution to go buy Android or Nokia - or buy a GPS or one of the countless other map/navigation options out there.
 
When is Google Maps on iOS coming out

"Turn by Turn Navigation
Find your way to your destination using turn-by-turn spoken directions, a 3D view, and real-time traffic information. As you approach a turn, Maps speaks directions, so you can keep your eyes on the road. In addition, the screen turns into a 3D perspective view of the road ahead. Large signs and arrows superimposed over the image show you which way to go and how long it’s going to take to get there — even if your screen is locked. When you enter into turn, the camera angle changes dynamically to show you where to go. If you miss a turn, don’t worry. Maps automatically reroutes you and updates your ETA."

Plainly false and misleading advertising. How can the app navigate where it can't find where you want to go. I resorted to finding the location using Google, pasting the address into Apple Maps and it STILL gets the location wrong?

When is Google Maps on iOS coming out? My old Nokia N95 is now better for maps than my iPhone is
 
They advertised maps and YouTube as the major deal breakers for the original iPhone despite the fact that the YouTube app only played about 10% of the videos on the site and Maps back then was no better than the current Apple Maps app. People still bought it. If you are folish enough to spend almost $1,000 for a phone when maps is what you really need, perhaps a GPS is what you should have purchased. And to say Google Maps was always free is a joke, I don't remember them giving away the other iPhones.

umm maps back then were better than the current map. Also you the maps then were fairly good compared to other choices at the time on phones. heck it was easier to navigate around on it but still had the same back end access to all the other smart phones out there.

Apple's current back end is by far worse than what they had in 2007 and is even farther behind everyone else who have moved a lot farther forward.
 
In any case, I'll keep this brief. I live in Japan. Maps now does not have:

  • Public transportation - I, like most people in Tokyo, use this exclusively. It's gone. The data exists and is just a matter of licensing or Apple incorporating it.
  • Subway layouts - Stations are large. Without something like Google Maps's layouts, which appear in transparent red on their maps, it's extremely easy to become disoriented.
  • Exit numbers - Without exits, it's hard to know not only the best place to exit, but also where to meet a friend. Some stations have dozens of exits; Ikebukuro, for instance, has around 50.
  • Building names - It's hard to double-check a location without these as Japan has no street names.
  • Street View - GPS becomes difficult with all the buildings, so Street View makes it easy to find which alley to duck into for the restaurant you're looking for.

And that's without getting into the rafts of minor issues. For example, almost every station around Tokyo Station has one or more duplicates in random locations. It's abundantly clear that Apple never once looked at these maps before releasing them. Plus no Flyover or Yelp, so we aren't receiving any new features either.

These are not crowdsourcing issues. They just aren't supported. If I'm going somewhere, anywhere, this map won't get me there.

I understand that some people have few problems. That's wonderful. But have at least a little sympathy for folks in countries with weak coverage and an incompetent implementation.
 
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I'm 253 posts late in the game, but I cannot see how APPL can drop the friggin' ball on this. It's not like M$ where you have a billion permutations of hardware scenarios! Really?

I love Apple as much as the next person and have been supporting them since 2006 when I wrote my MBA paper on the company, but this fiasco is JUST as worse as the iCloud debacle.

For a multi-BILLION dollar company, words cannot express how this is beyond unacceptable this is. Why would -anyone- release hardware when a key piece of software is broken.

It's beyond me. And to be honest, pisses me off because I tell all my friends 'n family how great APPL is and now this garbage happens.

Embarrassing and pathetic for all apple fanboys.

Well I think where they screwed up (royally) is by not calling Maps "Beta Maps" like they did with Siri when it came out.

We all know that Maps isn't as great as Google Maps, but I think what people forget is that Google Maps wasn't that fantastic when it started either.

So APPL should have called it Beta Maps b/c that's what it really is at this point in stage.

For me, I'll use APPL's maps and if that doesn't work, I'll go to Google Maps on Safari until Google (hopefully) is allowed to sell their map app in the store :) (this is the alternative software option for you).

It's not at all unacceptable that they release hardware without 1 piece of software not up to snuff when there are other options. Again, they did screw up not calling it a Beta, but it's hardly a function to stop the phone from being released.

cheers,
keebler
 
I was also immediately disappointed with an inaccuracy right off the bat, but just discovered some very good news. The distance for routes (travel times) are extremely accurate in IOS 6 Maps. Google maps are always grossly off - always way longer than in actual travel time. This will be a nice treat.

I have great success so far with IOS maps. Have not had a problem that would make me whine like crazy as some of the users here but than again I use the maps as a tool to get me to places in standard view. I don't care if the pin showing some landmark is off, I know enough what it is trying to tell me and if it is slightly off it is not the end of the world. It is a great FREE service being offered and not the end all or a tipping point that would make me NOT use an iphone. The PROS of the iPhone out weights what the competitor is offering by a land slide. I tried an ANdriod and some of the apps and functionality is just not as seamless or as intuitive as Apple and never mind hte minor crashes of apps. To me less frustration is worth way more than what is even available today. People here have some artificially high expectation out of Apple. I am not sure if they are trolling but seriously.. Apple is the company that changed the mobile industry, without Apple we would probably be using some plastic 'smart' phone looking for a screen protector because we don't want to scratch it. Be realistic, Apple raised the bar so high for the competitors and the crazy whiners have raised it even higher thinking they can do even better but not offering any solutions other than to whine.
 
You get paid the same amount Google pays for the mapping data its received from its user base.

That would be ZERO ;)

Indeed. Since I don't have to pay anything to use Google Maps I don't see a problem with that. But paying a huge premium for a phone and then having to fix its data yourself is idiotic at best.

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I have great success so far with IOS maps. Have not had a problem that would make me whine like crazy as some of the users here but than again I use the maps as a tool to get me to places in standard view. I don't care if the pin showing some landmark is off, I know enough what it is trying to tell me and if it is slightly off it is not the end of the world. It is a great FREE service being offered and not the end all or a tipping point that would make me NOT use an iphone. The PROS of the iPhone out weights what the competitor is offering by a land slide. I tried an ANdriod and some of the apps and functionality is just not as seamless or as intuitive as Apple and never mind hte minor crashes of apps. To me less frustration is worth way more than what is even available today. People here have some artificially high expectation out of Apple. I am not sure if they are trolling but seriously.. Apple is the company that changed the mobile industry, without Apple we would probably be using some plastic 'smart' phone looking for a screen protector because we don't want to scratch it. Be realistic, Apple raised the bar so high for the competitors and the crazy whiners have raised it even higher thinking they can do even better but not offering any solutions other than to whine.

Wait, it's free? You mist have bought your iPhone "Free with contract", LOL.

Yes, people should stop whining. They should just hand over all their money, accept what they're given and go home and shut up. Hmm, isn't there an old Apple commercial a bit like that?
 
It is not that easy to force Google Maps out or ask to standalone. Microsoft got burnt by making just Internet Explorer 6 as default, and by not allowing Fifefox to integrate. Their argument at that time was they owned the OS. MSFT still paying for its mistakes.

So in any court, Google can force Apple to allow any Maps app to be default.
 
The problem with Apple maps is it is beyond crap. I would put it at about 10 years behind the rest of the pack if not more. It has very out dated information, it POI are piss poor at best. Apple is NEVER going to catch up to Google plan and simple. They will gain but never catch up. They are to far behind and have a lot less ways of gathering information for updating and fixing the problems.

This sort of stuff is just hyperbole.

Apple's POI information from what I have seen is NOT out of date - it has stuff that opened very recently around me. It has mistakes, and lacks information, but so does Google. It has more mistakes than Google, and lacks more information than Google, but it still is okay. Around me I'd put it as acceptable, whereas Google is very good-to-great.

Let me just make it clear - I don't think the Maps app is that good. Turn-by-turn is a great feature, and I like the look of the maps, but it's not enough to outweigh the deficiencies in the data. I'm also not going to say "it will get better" because we're talking about the now. It's not irredeemably bad though. Not even close. It's functional, the turn-by-turn actually works great, but the data needs a lot of work. We'll see what happens. I do know that Apple probably needed to make this move as they have gotten burned by relying on a competitor for a major software app on their hardware.
 
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