How to tell if you have MLC or TLC flash iPhone 6/6 Plus

[10-Dee-Q]

i have 2 6+ 64GB one with TLC and one with MLC
but still can't diffrenciate the performance differences between those two
out of curiousity i checked my last year ipad air 128GB and it has MLC
i thought there's no 128GB MLC ?

 

[ssl0408]

I have a 64GB space gray 6, and according to the app it's MLC flash. The write speeds are in the upper 70s.

 

[Ibaorus]

I checked mine using the SSH method and I am happy that I have MLC NAND on my iPhone.

 

[cababah]

Theory - B

It's all about the cash flow for Tim Cook, pleasing the customers and giving them what they want. In the backend, figure ways to reduce the cost for higher profits.

This is what happens when the CEO is a bean counter.

Steve Jobs was a visionary; Cook is an accountant.

 

[Newtons Apple]

I have both 6 and 6 Plus units with both having 128GB of RAM and as long as they do no exhibit any problems, I do not care which RAM they have on board.

The important thing is the device works and the user enjoy it without going crazy in worrying about stuff like this. But then some got to worry.

Enjoy!

 

[maka344]

I have both 6 and 6 Plus units with both having 128GB of RAM and as long as they do no exhibit any problems, I do not care which RAM they have on board.

The important thing is the device works and the user enjoy it without going crazy in worrying about stuff like this. But then some got to worry.

Enjoy!

We're not talking about RAM here and you do not have 128 of RAM

 

[Newtons Apple]

We're not talking about RAM here and you do not have 128 of RAM

Excuse the error, FLASH.

 

[Smoothie]

Excuse the error, FLASH.

Most of us knew what you meant.

 

[Newtons Apple]

Most of us knew what you meant.

I suspected so, but this IS the iPhone forum and there is little tolerance for mistakes.

Thanks!

 

[thadoggfather]

I suspected so, but the IS the iPhone forum and there is little tolerance for mistakes.

Thanks!

No room for errors. Certainly no room for human error.

 

[Shadowbech]

Just got my new 6 Plus 64 GB today and I'm happy to say that I got MLC. Last one I had was TLC, but made an exchange due to cosmetic defect. And the phone is Week 47 if that matters.

 

[lordofthereef]

Is there a free version? All I see is "plus" and, while it only a buck, not terribly keen on paying for something I plan to use once.

 

[sunking101]

TLC according to the script on my 128GB. Kinda sucks since the only reason I bought a 128GB device was because they ran out of the 64GBs

My November build 64GB 6+ has TLC #

 

[sunking101]

This is interesting! It basically says that TLC is what they put in cheap sh** products, and SLC is the best. MLC has a much longer life cycle than TLC. So, even if your TLC iPhone is performing ok, it still has inferior hardware compared to iPhones with MLC.

http://centon.com/flash-products/chiptype

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Oh, and just what we need....TLC flash uses more RAM apparently! So my £729 'premium' phone has slower, less durable and more-memory hogging flash in it. Gee thanks Apple.

It goes without saying that the Note 4 uses MLC...#

http://www.androidorigin.com/apple-iphone-6-benchmarks-tlc-nand-mlc-flash/

 

[bunnicula]

Maybe I should start another thread, but have any of you who have TLC devices contacted Apple?

I think I'm going to. I've had a few too many crashes. Phone. App. Safari. Etc. I love my phone. When it's not crashing.

 

[E2EK1EL]

Got my 2nd IP6 tonight and it's a TLC, had my first crash.

My launch day IP6 is a MLC

 

[reery]

I've got an iPhone 6 64 GB, manufacture week 45/2014, MLC nand.

No issues at all.

 

[Buringcoals]

iPhone 6 + 64gb

Write = 263 MB/s
Read = 754 MB/s

I am glad I have TLC, because I don't care what you say, faster is ALWAYS better period. Now if they are having issues due to crashing that is entirely different, but no MLC is NOT better because its slow.

I have never crashed, or had any issues with safari or games, apps crashing and I don't even monitor what open apps I have. I also do not have any lagg on my phone using Spotlight or other GUI issues people have reported.

I heavily use my phone. I would have been disappointed if my write speed was under 100 MB/s.

A lot of people in this thread making baseless claims, like TLC uses more memory, etc. And it's funny people wishing they had MLC and slower memory.

Thanks to the OP for the link to the app and the idea behind testing different memory.

 

[IrishVixen]

Maybe I should start another thread, but have any of you who have TLC devices contacted Apple?

I think I'm going to. I've had a few too many crashes. Phone. App. Safari. Etc. I love my phone. When it's not crashing.

Not yet. But if they don't fix this pretty soon via firmware, I'm going to have to. The crashes, bootloops, and the really spectacular BSOD kernel panic that took ten minutes to resolve have me wistful about my lovely stable iPhone 5. Which is sad.

I do suspect it isn't just that it's TLC; over on Reddit at one print a couple of weeks ago, one crashing jailbreak tweak was narrowed down to only happening on devices that had TLC chips from specific manufacturers (SanDisk, mostly). Problem is, it's hard to find the manufacturer unless you're jailbroken, as near as I can tell. Still, that would explain why some people with TLC have problems and others don't.

And yes, mine is SanDisk. I'm not sure how to tell Apple that I'll gladly take a refurb...but that if it has TLC again, I'm handing it right back, and we'll repeat the process until I get a 6/64 that doesn't have this hardware fault. I didn't shell out the better part of $1k to have a phone that honestly isn't reliable, and so far, this one isn't even with moderate use. It positively loves to crash while playing music backgrounded, which frankly is a pretty basic use case for most of us.

 

[bunnicula]

Not yet. But if they don't fix this pretty soon via firmware, I'm going to have to. The crashes, bootloops, and the really spectacular BSOD kernel panic that took ten minutes to resolve have me wistful about my lovely stable iPhone 5. Which is sad.

I do suspect it isn't just that it's TLC; over on Reddit at one print a couple of weeks ago, one crashing jailbreak tweak was narrowed down to only happening on devices that had TLC chips from specific manufacturers (SanDisk, mostly). Problem is, it's hard to find the manufacturer unless you're jailbroken, as near as I can tell. Still, that would explain why some people with TLC have problems and others don't.

And yes, mine is SanDisk. I'm not sure how to tell Apple that I'll gladly take a refurb...but that if it has TLC again, I'm handing it right back, and we'll repeat the process until I get a 6/64 that doesn't have this hardware fault. I didn't shell out the better part of $1k to have a phone that honestly isn't reliable, and so far, this one isn't even with moderate use. It positively loves to crash while playing music backgrounded, which frankly is a pretty basic use case for most of us.

I don't even want a refurb. I want a new unit with MLC. I think I'm going to call support today. I paid full price for this phone. This is fairly ridiculous.

 

[IrishVixen]

I don't even want a refurb. I want a new unit with MLC. I think I'm going to call support today. I paid full price for this phone. This is fairly ridiculous.

Please do post a follow up. I'd be interested to hear what they say.

 

[JonMPLS]

From what I have seen in other reviews, the TLC crashes are severe, reboot type crashes (not sure of the correct terminology). Is there any reason to think they might also be related to the app crashes (like the occasional Safari crash)?

 

[Coupz]

My iPhone 6/64 has TLC and I didn't had any crashes or reboots or things like that.
I like my iPhone like on day one and if it gets issues after some time, I'll send it back and wait for a refurb.

 

[bunnicula]

Please do post a follow up. I'd be interested to hear what they say.

They pretended it wasn't an actual issue.

 

[IrishVixen]

They pretended it wasn't an actual issue.

Crap. That's exactly what I was afraid of.

I think odds are a bit better trying to exchange it in person. Of course, at this time of year, going to the Apple store in the mall is pretty much the last place on Earth I want to go...

What will you do at this point?