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HP Claims Innovation Over Apple With 'World's Thinnest Laptop'

CFreymarc said:
If there ever was hardware deserving of a Hackintosh mod, this is it. You can also put Linux on it and really free up CPU cycles.
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If you have enough space time and a liking for frustration, you can install Linux on a coffee machine if you're determined enough. Not sure I can find a reason to use Desktop Linux for anything, although it's keeping out of my face and doing its job as a wget and flash video downloaded & mp3 streamer on my Pi. Then again, it could (and maybe will) run BSD for all I care - its just up there grabbing links for me, and just happens to run Linux, but I would NEVER EVER choose Linux.

 
Little does HP know, Ive already has a full suite of product photographs in the bank for his next Macbook, which will be shown in profile, dwarfed by the edge of an adjacent, finely sharpened katana blade.

"The MacCleaver was inspired by the most revered sword of the storied Kōga clan, from 15th century Japan. It's edges are approximately two atoms thick. Users will cut themselves often while opening and closing their MacCleavers, which is why we chose to cast the chassis from a single block of surgical grade stainless carbon polymer. The blood simply beads up, and rolls off."
 
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satchmo said:
Jony to design team: "Okay gang, we've fooled the competition, thin is out...we're going back to thicker, more ports and a dedicated GPU."
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That's what happens when you're the rest of the industry, copying things that were conceived in Apple labs many years before they were publicly announced (obviously this is the case - they don't magically spring into existence a week before they're released), you're continually doggy paddling at the tail end of the wave, instead of riding on the crest at the front.

All the best with your hideous laptops, HP.
 
kyleh22 said:
I really like the HP logo on the front. It looks sharp.
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I saw this logo rolled out a few years ago, but HP never really used it anywhere. I like it as well, but they should have made sure the accessories such as the mouse was updated with the new logo.
 
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KPOM said:
It depends on priorities. Both devices make compromises. With an adapter it's possible to charge a MacBook and have a display and peripheral connected. I'm not surprised HP put 2 ports in but am surprised they put in a 3rd. It seems superfluous since the 2nd allows one to charge the device and also plug in a hub or adapter for as many devices as needed. That's kind of the point of Thunberbolt 3.
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True, but wouldn't the Macbook Air sort of fill the space the Macbook holds? Ignoring all the added features the Macbook brings like the resolution, Force Touch trackpad, etc. (since Apple could add those in); the weight difference isn't overly huge between the two - both 11" and 13" MBA models. I do see that the Macbook is more intended for cloud-computing, so in that sense I can understand why one would choose the MB over the MBA; but I personally am unsure of where the MB fits exactly.
 
Apple is a crashing plane that hasn't hit the ground yet. Without Jobs Apple is nothing.
 
That's a spiffy looking laptop. I'm glad that somebody is driving that kind of design, and I'm happy to see multiple ports. I don't care for the ultra-thin part myself -- I won't accept less than 16GB RAM and 1TB SSD because that's what I have in my current non-retina MBP, and I use over 800GB of that 1T. I also don't plan on running Windows other than the XP VM I use for producing non-bloated PDF out of MS Office. But, the styling, the departure from monochrome color schemes, and other details are pretty darn nice.
 
shyam09 said:
True, but wouldn't the Macbook Air sort of fill the space the Macbook holds? Ignoring all the added features the Macbook brings like the resolution, Force Touch trackpad, etc. (since Apple could add those in); the weight difference isn't overly huge between the two - both 11" and 13" MBA models. I do see that the Macbook is more intended for cloud-computing, so in that sense I can understand why one would choose the MB over the MBA; but I personally am unsure of where the MB fits exactly.
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I think the MacBook will replace the MacBook Air. What they could do is make a 13" or 14" version in a manner similar to the HP Spectre with a Core i5/i7 and fan, perhaps with 2 Thunderbolt 3 ports, and then deprecate the MacBook Air (i.e. keep a base model around for a couple more years so that they have something for $899 but don't upgrade it).
 
beebarb said:
I see one advantage it has over Apple's ultrathin right away.
IT HAS MORE THAN ONE PORT.

It actually looks usable as a productivity machine.

I may be a Mac user, but Apple goofed big time by only having one USB-C port on their device.
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THIS!
The hinge on the thing is silly, as is the fake gold, but it has more than one port. Wins hands down.
 
I used to own an HP tower and frankly I really don't care what PC makers push out nowadays, but damn that thing is UGLY. It looks like a crossbreed between a MacBook and a Chromebook.
 
beebarb said:
I see one advantage it has over Apple's ultrathin right away.
IT HAS MORE THAN ONE PORT.

It actually looks usable as a productivity machine.

I may be a Mac user, but Apple goofed big time by only having one USB-C port on their device.
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One port is really really bad for a computer, min is 2 a must.
 
tongxinshe said:
You can easily satisfy the "a week of heavy duty use" requirement -- buy a 12000mAH power bank, tape it with your phone. Here you go, a big brick fits your taste.
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I actually have in excess of 11 high capacity portable batteries for when I'm away from a power source for an extended period of time, god forbid I lose power on anything and break out into a panic :D

But that's neither here nor there. Well done for entirely missing the point. The innovation part, which is what the post was referring to, would be implementing a new form of battery which has massive capacity and lasting power. Rather than the ageing outdated form of battery we have now.

Innovation would not be in the form of a big fat battery, that would be, well, the opposite of innovation.
 
Let me level set here. First, Windows laptop built by HP, Lenovo,etc may get thinner but not reliable like Apple. That's hidden but important point that most people don't see and easily overlook. I bought HP Envy 15t X360, pretty nice laptop for my son in college. That thingy broke in 5 months. My daughter had macbook pro for last 4 years and still keep going without any issue at all. HP makes good products. So, it is not HP's laptop vs any other but all windows PC manufactures try to imitate Apple but can't make as good and as reliable products like Apple.
 
It used to be "Mine is bigger than yours" but now we've moved to "Mine is smaller/thinner than yours". Feminists everywhere must be so proud of this moment.
 
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dmylrea said:
In all fairness and to be less Apple-biased, don't forget to include Dell with their XPS 13 with 4K display. Apple isn't the only one "innovating" (or actually past-tense when it comes to Apple).
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True, just saying you can't even enter this game with merely a 1080P display. HP claims innovation over Apple, and maybe there is innovative things about this laptop, maybe it's the thinest in its class, but they squander its potential by going low-res. Maybe they had to go low-res to get it that thin, but why bother?

Similarly, I think Apple still offering MacBook Airs without retina displays is rather unfortunate. They need to have retina displays on their entire line of laptops at this point. Hopefully this will change soon.
 
peterdevries said:
The whole innovation discussion is ridiculous. It has turned into a marketing term that doesn't mean anything and injects confusion into any meaningful discussion about ACTUAL innovation.

Companies should innovate to bring products to consumers that they need and desire. Not use the term "innovation" for cosmetics to distract from a lack of actual product and process innovation.
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My guess is nobody would be talking about it had HP not pitched it that way. Also The Verge has basically become a PR arm of companies these (today they have a puff piece on Ford). So they took the press shots from HP with a couple quotes from an HP exec and turned it into a PR piece about HP out-innovating Apple. I still find Apple being the benchmark quite amusing considering most tech reporters wet themselves last year when Microsoft announced the Surface Book. Now it's as if that product doesn't exist and they're back to making Mac comparisons.

dmylrea said:
In all fairness and to be less Apple-biased, don't forget to include Dell with their XPS 13 with 4K display. Apple isn't the only one "innovating" (or actually past-tense when it comes to Apple).
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Tell that to The Verge who chose to make this an Apple comparison as though the XPS doesn't even exist. I guess a headline about HP out-innovating Dell doesn't produce enough clicks.
 
JaySoul said:
:D you lot...

I saw a Spectre in real life - think it's pretty similar to this, just not as thin. I was playing with it for 10 minutes in the shop, it's gorgeous in real life.

Can't speak about this new model, but the HP Spectre I played with was stunning, the keyboard was cracking, lovely screen, touchpad was very MBP like...

And Windows 10 is awesome, no idea what you lot are complaining about!! It's given a new lease of life to my work PC (7 years old).

Meanwhile, my MacBook Pro from 2012 is slowing down to a crawl, ridden with bugs and I wish to hurl it through a window. So frustrating.
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Come on. If there is one tech that just needs to die its Windows. MS just keeps slapping New Lipstick on an old pig. You go 2 levels deep in any version of windows and its the same old garbage OS.
 
keysofanxiety said:
Yeah, but it's HP. So hinges that are susceptible to wear-and tear and poor thermal design are practically guaranteed, if history's anything to go by. No advantage throwing in an i7 processor if it's throttling every 2 seconds.

Best to wait for the real-world reviews.
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The thermal design is by Intel...
 
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