I think seeing the ignore count would be be better than a rating, because people will down-rate others simply from differing opinions, but you don't tend to ignore-list people until they prove themselves to be obnoxious/trolling.
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I think seeing the ignore count would be be better than a rating, because people will down-rate others simply from differing opinions, but you don't tend to ignore-list people until they prove themselves to be obnoxious/trolling.
Others think so too.
iSuppli, Bnet, Business Insider and other sources agree with your logic. They estimate the manufacturing cost of the basic model to be around $270, Apple having a profit margin of around 55% on the high-end one.
By high-end, I mean the same one as the basic one but with the larger storage and 3G chip that apparently costs a pathetic fraction of what Apple charges.
There is a point to the expensive and optional 3G chip. If you pay a lot, you are less likely to cancel the subscription. Remember, with the iPad, subscriptions can be cancelled at any time.
does anyone agree with the phrase, "overpriced"?
iSuppli, Bnet, Business Insider and other sources agree with your logic. They estimate the manufacturing cost of the basic model to be around $270, Apple having a profit margin of around 55% on the high-end one.
By high-end, I mean the same one as the basic one but with the larger storage and 3G chip that apparently costs a pathetic fraction of what Apple charges.
There is a point to the expensive and optional 3G chip. If you pay a lot, you are less likely to cancel the subscription. Remember, with the iPad, subscriptions can be cancelled at any time.
I will probably skip HP device since it looks like being physically too large for my needs... But if it runs Win7 then you cant say it will lack content
Yes, I do.
Sadly, it probably won't happen until after this site is destroyed by the lamest commenters. It's not my call, anyhow. It's up to the folks who run this forum.
Microsoft may Swing Back
I did see the demo of a brand new Window phone 7 series. Sure, it was shown as an new os for a phone, but it can be moved over to a tablet, possibly. So, if HP or someone were to use it, then they may have a chance. The window phone 7 os has hubs, multitouch. It is very much like the iphone os. They have people, music, etc. hubs. It is basically a me too os like the iphone. However, it lacked a real app store. It had marketplace interefaced in each hub. Only exciting thing was the xbox live hub. No details on that, it's in a working progress. No games are designed for this new os. So, xbox live games won't work. It may just be social access on your avator status,etc. If so, it's an epic fail!!!
I did see the demo of a brand new Window phone 7 series. Sure, it was shown as an new os for a phone, but it can be moved over to a tablet, possibly. So, if HP or someone were to use it, then they may have a chance. The window phone 7 os has hubs, multitouch. It is very much like the iphone os. They have people, music, etc. hubs. It is basically a me too os like the iphone. However, it lacked a real app store. It had marketplace interefaced in each hub. Only exciting thing was the xbox live hub. No details on that, it's in a working progress. No games are designed for this new os. So, xbox live games won't work. It may just be social access on your avator status,etc. If so, it's an epic fail!!!
Don't forget Engadget.
I abandoned Digg a long time ago - the trolling there was epic, and Digg didn't care to address the problem. What a joke of a site.
I don't read YouTube comments - fortunately the video appears at the top of the page and I have no need to scroll.
Probably true.
Are you just as concerned about negative votes on articles?
It's still another form of rating. Yes, we have been over it...
Nah...
I wouldn't spend my money on Archos
In any case, this entire Slate / Pad / Tablet evolution is just starting and warming up and really I am not exactly in a rush to buy anything right now so I will give it at very least 1 year from now on (perhaps even more!) for everyone in the industry to show their cards...
I still wonder who keeps Archos in business.Nah...
I wouldn't spend my money on Archos
I'm not answering for cvaldes, but negative votes don't impact my page loads.
So any half-wit blowhard with a 12-year-old vocabulary and an obvious zeal for agitation should be able to ignite flame war after flame war unfettered? This is the Web you like to see?
Their native French customers and people who wanted a dedicated video player with array of codec support Apple does not offer? I dunno they make pretty solid products, but its their average SQ that kept me away from them and looked at something else.
I can't wait to get a Windows 7 Slate. I'm glad that it's going to be cheaper than the iPad, considering that it's also more powerful.
I suspect the internet is serious business.
I agree with the lack of any sort of reputation system here.
The best advice is silence and I'll take my own advice. Good bye and good night for now.
I'll have to take another look at Archos again. It ranges from the occasional codec issue to prices that would make even Apple drool. Though I suspect that the same can be said of Apple's prices outside of the United States.
Well, listen...
I might be there with you providing following things are met:
- OS is stable and reacts well on touch-screen device (haven't used Win since XP so have no clue about Win7 and Vista)
- Device is well designed and built quality is very good
- Browser(s) installed support FULL web experience (from Flash onwards)
- Device is priced realistically and fairly
If all 4 points above are ticked I would be seriously tempted
No, I don't give a sh*t about readers rating articles.
Basically, pageviews will take care of that. In the long run, readers will abandon sites that heavily linkbait or promise content that isn't delivered.
GIGO = Garbage In, Garbage Out
Whoever said 'plebs'...
Whoever made such a socially insensitive remark should get a ToffBook!
Just as people, who say 'posh' are often are not; whoever said 'pleb' might come from fairly low. At least in manners. But I still smell social climbing...
Whoever made such a socially insensitive remark should get a ToffBook!
Just as people, who say 'posh' are often are not; whoever said 'pleb' might come from fairly low. At least in manners. But I still smell social climbing...
Well, listen...
I might be there with you providing following things are met:
- OS is stable and reacts well on touch-screen device (haven't used Win since XP so have no clue about Win7 and Vista)
- Device is well designed and built quality is very good
- Browser(s) installed support FULL web experience (from Flash onwards)
- Device is priced realistically and fairly
If all 4 points above are ticked I would be seriously tempted
I installed my Windows 7 on my 2003 laptop with 768mb or ram, and it ran flawlessly, very stable. It didn't have the special effects because the graphic card was too old, but it looked much better than XP. But I was surprised how flawless it ran, so I'm pretty confident it will run really good.
What I'm really looking for though is for a slate that has a SD card reader + USB, and to connect it to my HDTV. That way I can also use it as a home theater PC. Oh, and GPU flash acceleration, which most newer netbooks have, that way I can watch HD youtube videos.
Now that you mention votes, I have never been sure what the voting on an article is intended to represent. Is it:
A. Whether you agree or disagree with the information presented;
B. Whether you are happy or unhappy about what you are being told;
C. Whether you consider the source, and thus the article itself, to be credible;
D. Whether you consider the quality of the writing up to scratch;
E. Something else?
Example: Article says Microsoft has gone broke. Does this get voted positive because it is the best news of the century, or negative because it is not credible?
Not that it affects me anyway. The voting buttons are only available if you come in the front door. If you enter from the link on the RSS feed, as I do, the voting buttons don't appear.
Argh! Stupidity.
Look, if you want a new, well-made slate tablet for running full, unrestricted windows apps natively, then get this:
http://www.motioncomputing.com/products/tablet_pc_J34.asp
If you want a new, well made slate tablet running for full, unrestricted Mac OS X apps natively, then wait and get this:
http://www.axiotron.com/index.php?id=modbookpro
If you only want to pay for an eighth of a computer, that's all you're going to get!
Quit whining! You're talking about products that cost a few hundred bucks. There are calculators that cost more than this! And a price difference of a hundred or so dollars. If this is too much money for you, then save your pennies, and don't buy something you can't afford! Quit freaking whining.
Look, if you want a new, well-made slate tablet for running full, unrestricted windows apps natively, then get this:
http://www.motioncomputing.com/products/tablet_pc_J34.asp
If you want a new, well made slate tablet running for full, unrestricted Mac OS X apps natively, then wait and get this:
http://www.axiotron.com/index.php?id=modbookpro
If you only want to pay for an eighth of a computer, that's all you're going to get!
Quit whining! You're talking about products that cost a few hundred bucks. There are calculators that cost more than this! And a price difference of a hundred or so dollars. If this is too much money for you, then save your pennies, and don't buy something you can't afford! Quit freaking whining.
speculation and Vapors
Note I am not a Apple fanatic. I have been using various computing demons from hell starting around 1970 I am in the "been there done that category". I do have a Touch 2G which I really enjoy, but I do not worship it or Steve Jobs. What I see here are people who, in the first place know only what they have read about the iPad, and are looking at iPad in the wrong way, dare I call them iCrabs. There is all of this bitching about "it doesn't do flash" it doesn't multi-task, it doesn't whatever, this is true. however Apple's iPad is a different kind of computing device. Any one with a iPod Touch understands just what the iPad is addressing. Take the example of "it doesn't do flash". Ask yourself why doesn't it? It is because Apple has instead chosen to go with HTML 5 for videos and such. ( http://dev.w3.org/html5/html-author/ ) Flash has always been a resource hog, and at times is very clanky. HTML 5 on the other hand is not. The developers at Apple have always wanted devices that work smoothly but with flash some times that does not happen. This has really set Adobe off. Shortly after the intro for the iPad they demonstrated a number of websites that didn't render properly without Flash, and because of Apple this was terrible and the end of civilization as we know it is at hand. Apple answered back showing these sites did indeed render just fine on an iPad thanks to the ground work laid down using HTML-5 by the iPhone and iPod Touch these sites worked just fine. You Tube is one of the major sites that supports HTML 5 Keep in mind the iPad is designed to be a content consuming device that works with in the Apple content ecosystem. Most of the pot shots I see are from people who instead of carping about the iPad should just go out and get a netbook and be done with it. I will get a iPad but like others here I am going to wait perhaps a year or so to see how things pan out. The iPad will sell, and it will sell in huge numbers. I would suggest you go over to http://twit.tv/ and listen to the various podcasts of Leo Laporte, and company. Remember the show on the old TechTv cable channel called "The Screen Saver" this is where many of the people seen there have landed. Leo has actually had his hands on a real iPad. His comments on it are very interesting. Leo always purchases the stuff he comments on so he is free to call it a piece of junk if needs be. He has recently put away his iPhone in favor of a Nexus One Android phone
( http://www.android.com/ ) which he feels is a much better device. I am looking forward to his review of the iPad. I would suggest that instead of lobbing artillery shells at it wait until somebody like Leo Laporte, and others at TWiT, which stands for This Week in Technology, actually is using one before you pass the final judgment.
Note I am not a Apple fanatic. I have been using various computing demons from hell starting around 1970 I am in the "been there done that category".
I do have a Touch 2G which I really enjoy, but I do not worship it or Steve Jobs. What I see here are people who, in the first place know only what they have read about the iPad, and are looking at iPad in the wrong way, dare I call them iCrabs. There is all of this bitching about "it doesn't do flash" it doesn't multi-task, it doesn't whatever, this is true. however Apple's iPad is a different kind of computing device. Any one with a iPod Touch understands just what the iPad is addressing. Take the example of "it doesn't do flash". Ask yourself why doesn't it? It is because Apple has instead chosen to go with HTML 5 for videos and such. ( http://dev.w3.org/html5/html-author/ ) Flash has always been a resource hog, and at times is very clanky. HTML 5 on the other hand is not. The developers at Apple have always wanted devices that work smoothly but with flash some times that does not happen. This has really set Adobe off. Shortly after the intro for the iPad they demonstrated a number of websites that didn't render properly without Flash, and because of Apple this was terrible and the end of civilization as we know it is at hand. Apple answered back showing these sites did indeed render just fine on an iPad thanks to the ground work laid down using HTML-5 by the iPhone and iPod Touch these sites worked just fine. You Tube is one of the major sites that supports HTML 5 Keep in mind the iPad is designed to be a content consuming device that works with in the Apple content ecosystem. Most of the pot shots I see are from people who instead of carping about the iPad should just go out and get a netbook and be done with it. I will get a iPad but like others here I am going to wait perhaps a year or so to see how things pan out. The iPad will sell, and it will sell in huge numbers. I would suggest you go over to http://twit.tv/ and listen to the various podcasts of Leo Laporte, and company. Remember the show on the old TechTv cable channel called "The Screen Saver" this is where many of the people seen there have landed. Leo has actually had his hands on a real iPad. His comments on it are very interesting. Leo always purchases the stuff he comments on so he is free to call it a piece of junk if needs be. He has recently put away his iPhone in favor of a Nexus One Android phone( http://www.android.com/ ) which he feels is a much better device. I am looking forward to his review of the iPad. I would suggest that instead of lobbing artillery shells at it wait until somebody like Leo Laporte, and others at TWiT, which stands for This Week in Technology, actually is using one before you pass the final judgment.
How good of a chess player is steve?
He had to see this coming. Every computer maker in the world was waiting for apple to move. I am now hoping that apple still has a few shells I. The chamber that will be fired before launch. We shall see.
He had to see this coming. Every computer maker in the world was waiting for apple to move. I am now hoping that apple still has a few shells I. The chamber that will be fired before launch. We shall see.
If you want to pay $3,049 to $4,698 for one of these tablets go right ahead.