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It's too bad that you shop only at Walmart. Otherwise you would know that HP produces excellent laptops like this HP EliteBook 8540w Mobile Workstation Quad Core ($5,549.00 with all options).

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It has quad core i7, 16GB of RAM, NVIDIA Quadro graphics card and many other features not available on MBPs (and I know - specs do not matter)

Pity when you buy HP notebooks, it doesn't ship that way. It's full of stickers that Goo Gone can't even remove without leaving a residue. And if this comes without stickers, you gotta pay a big price for it. :D.
 
It's too bad that you shop only at Walmart. Otherwise you would know that HP produces excellent laptops like this HP EliteBook 8540w Mobile Workstation Quad Core ($5,549.00 with all options).

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It has quad core i7, 16GB of RAM, NVIDIA Quadro graphics card and many other features not available on MBPs (and I know - specs do not matter)

Doesn't it also have a ridiculously cheesy pop-out flashlight above the screen? A very flimsy ridiculously cheesy pop-out flashlight? A hilariously ill-conceived pop-out flashlight? The kind that broke off within a couple of months of my friends buying one? That kind of flashlight?
 
Well HP does have another OS. Tru64 Unix: http://h30097.www3.hp.com/

Apple should have acquired Palm. Hate to see it bought by a competitor. The IP alone plus engineering staff to alleviate the load on core Mac OS X engineers who have been shifted to work on the iPhone OS meanwhile 10.7 sits.

Heck, WWDC probably wont even mention the next version of Mac OS X, it will focus on the iPhone OS and iPad from the looks off it.

Huh, HP with their own OS? Weird. Well this should certainly bring some life into their super stale iPAQ brand.

Very interesting. Does this mean the Pre lives on? Or is it killed?
 
Doesn't it also have a ridiculously cheesy pop-out flashlight above the screen? A very flimsy ridiculously cheesy pop-out flashlight? A hilariously ill-conceived pop-out flashlight? The kind that broke off within a couple of months of my friends buying one? That kind of flashlight?

It does. I have no problems with it though. At work we all have HP Elitebook workstations. Nobody complained about this flashlite. Perhaps nobody uses them and why would we? Backlit keyboards are gimmicks for college students anyways :D
 
It does. I have no problems with it though. At work we all have HP Elitebook workstations. Nobody complained about this flashlite. Perhaps nobody uses them and why would we? Backlit keyboards are gimmicks for college students anyways :D

Oh come on. Just for a minute be honest. I've owned many HP computers. Some were swell. But, I mean, really. A friggen flashlight! I mean, it may as well be a friggen cupholder! How do you not look at it and laugh every day? It's ok, you can criticize them just a little bit. It would bolster your position if you confessed how silly that thing is.
 
With the might of HP behind them, it could well be the biggest competitor to the iPhone in the next few years...
Maybe, but they'd better hurry up. When it is time to replace my phone, I guess when 5th version of iPhone is released, I'll take a look around. However, it will not be "Should I get a Dell or Acer?" type of a selection. Switching operating systems means investing time to learn a new OS, to find different app, pay for the paid apps once again, learn how to use these new apps etc. For most people to take on this trouble, the differences need to be worth it. Either it needs to be dramatically better or dramatically cheaper. Customer inertia is very strong. That is what keeps Blackberry going strong these days, even though it has a fairly clunky OS.
 
Oh come on. Just for a minute be honest. I've owned many HP computers. Some were swell. But, I mean, really. A friggen flashlight! I mean, it may as well be a friggen cupholder! How do you not look at it and laugh every day? It's ok, you can criticize them just a little bit. It would bolster your position if you confessed how silly that thing is.

For a long time I did not even know that the laptop had it. So it's not annoying at all. My wife told me about the existence of this flashlight. No I really do not mind it. In fact it might be a very good trade-of: flashlight (which I never use) vs the chicklet keyboard which is very uncomfortable for typing (especially for those who touch-type - and I am not one of those).
 
For a long time I did not even know that the laptop had it. So it's not annoying at all. My wife told me about the existence of this flashlight. No I really do not mind it. In fact it might be a very good trade-of: flashlight (which I never use) vs the chicklet keyboard which is very uncomfortable for typing (especially for those who touch-type - and I am not one of those).

Aw, come on. You know you it's silly. You just can't bring yourself to admit it. But that's ok. It will be our secret.
 
Interesting and surprising news!

Interesting. Does HP want in on the smartphone market or do they want an OS for Slate? Personally, I think the latter.
I would agree with this.

Although, some say that smartphones are the wave of the future. :confused:

Forgot to mention: I do love my 12c. Have used it now for years, best calculator on earth for my profession.
Agree. Have one. Even have the emulators for Windows, Mac and iPhone.

Really? Seriously?

Net Income

AAPL- $8.23 billion
HPQ- $7.66 billion
Pesky difference between gross and net. :D

Anyhow, interesting move on HP's part.
 
Aw, come on. You know you it's silly. You just can't bring yourself to admit it. But that's ok. It will be our secret.

Perhaps you did not understand me. I think it would be impossible (or too expensive) to make backlit keys on a regular keyboard which I greatly prefer to a chicklet one.
 
Perhaps you did not understand me. I think it would be impossible (or too expensive) to make backlit keys on a regular keyboard which I greatly prefer to a chicklet one.

Not sure why you say that. My 2007 MBP has "regular" keys and is backlit.
 
Oh come on. Just for a minute be honest. I've owned many HP computers. Some were swell. But, I mean, really. A friggen flashlight! I mean, it may as well be a friggen cupholder! How do you not look at it and laugh every day? It's ok, you can criticize them just a little bit. It would bolster your position if you confessed how silly that thing is.

I envy your ability to be amused by such tiny things. Laughing is healthy, you should totally buy an Elitebook if it amuses you that much!


I agree the Flashlight isn't of much use (at least for me), but the Elitebooks are damn fine machines. I've just ordered one of the 15 inch models - fully speced up with Intel Core i7, 4Gigs RAM, dedicated Nvidia Quadro 1Gig, WWAN, USB3.0, etc. This machine will beat any of the current MBPs. Additionally these notebooks are developed to meet military standards for reliability and performance under extreme conditions. Beats any MacBook, maybe only except for design and elegance...
 
Great news! Hopefully this will put some fire under Apple's tail. I'm tired of Apple rationing features to force us into a perpetual upgrade mode (one only has to mention "3G", "cut & paste", "multitasking", "front facing camera", "usb support").
 
Great news! Hopefully this will put some fire under Apple's tail. I'm tired of Apple rationing features to force us into perpetual upgrade mode (one only has to mention "cut & paste", "multitasking", "front facing camera", "usb support").

Agree. Competition has always been healthy...
 
Not sure how MS feels about it, but its a good move. WebOS based Slate will come out. More companies are focusing on Mobile OS instead of traditional desktop OS ( no mention of OS X @ WWDC etc).

The competition in mobile OS will bring more cool products. Consumers will have more choices ( MS is no where to be seen, though some people think winpho 7 will do wonder, lets wait and see..)
 
Palm was great. Loved my Treo. 10 years ago. Butler crashed it daily. Any Palm man that is not an iPhone man now is still waiting for new episodes of Seinfeld.

Or you can try not speaking for Palm/Treo owners. The Treo 650 had features the iPhone never got until last year.

Many are waiting for the iPhone to be put on a better network, especially one that's going to handle 4G just as well or better than they handled 3G, which leaves either Verizon or Sprint . . . .

Its less than 300MB

Yet takes up far too much computer resources at times. And let's not forget certain iLife apps that are wonderful, but iPhoto hangs FOREVER at times.

Customer inertia is very strong. That is what keeps Blackberry going strong these days, even though it has a fairly clunky OS.

Agreed, and it's what's keeping many iPhone users staying with a fairly stale and out-modish/un-customizable OS.

I think the buyout is a nice little surprise, and I hope neither HP nor Palm make the foolish mistakes they've made in the past, but I am pretty much feed up with Palm . . . and only ever dug HP for their better-than-the-Mac-Pro" workstations.

I don't see this ending well for Palm, they've been going down hill since the Foleo, regardless of the CEO. EVO 4G here I come.
 
Not sure how MS feels about it, but its a good move. WebOS based Slate will come out. More companies are focusing on Mobile OS instead of traditional desktop OS ( no mention of OS X @ WWDC etc).

The competition in mobile OS will bring more cool products. Consumers will have more choices ( MS is no where to be seen, though some people think winpho 7 will do wonder, lets wait and see..)

Competition is good, yes. However, more cool products and more consumer choices is not so good. Last thing we need is more devices that have no purpose, all doing the same thing.

Anyone remember the widget craze? I think it still is going on. Everything had widgets. Useless items really. Desktops, phones, tv's, cable boxes, cars, toasters - everything has widgets. It's absurd.

It's like, how many devices to we need to connect to facebook and twitter? Do I really need my digital photo frame to connect to freaking twitter? Umm no.
 
My previous phone was a Treo 650. I owned it for years. I don't miss it. Didn't miss it last year. Nor did I miss it the year before.

I wouldn't expect anyone to miss any phone that old at this current time.

I don't miss my Treo 750, like I didn't miss my Palm V after I got my TX.

We all get new products, and I am sure no one will miss Palm when they are finally gone for good.
 
Hey wait a second! RIM stole the commercial!

Blackberry 6 OS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlO8KMv7Bx4

No doubt apple has the best marketing when it comes to mobile phones.. no one can even come close, but when you compare what palm has now versus their creepy pale chick, and verizons pathetic attempt to market a phone to middle aged women when it should have been directed toward 20-30 year old men the new ads are finally something that shows off webos in a decent light.

check out:

http://www.precentral.net/palms-movies-ad-makes-it-set

http://www.precentral.net/french-palm-ad-does-webos-right
 
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