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HP's webOS Reportedly Runs Significantly Faster on iPad 2 Than on TouchPad

I can guarantee you that if this story is actually true, they would be testing it on an iPad 1.

For them to run on iPad 2, they would have to bootstrap a separate kernel etc. while iOS is already booted. They would also have to have a place to put all the operating system files for WebOS to use that would not interfere with iOS.

In the case of iPad 1, they can load WebOS from the bootrom level because of a DFU exploit.

Also, the WebOS team would have had to reverse all of the 'drivers' for the flash memory, screen, digitizer, etc -- this is something that the iPhone-Android team has been struggling with for years. The iPhone-Android project does not support iPad at all yet.

So my point is that it is extremely unlikely they ran "true" webOS on an iPad. The person reporting it probably made it up to make HP's tablet look bad. (which it is...)
 
HP completely failed web os and Palm. Instead of using their money they pretty much did nothing in the year they owned palm.
 
chrmjenkins said:
They gave the touchpad 6 weeks. Most people give longer for a gallstone to pass.
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I'm guessing this little tidbit is more important than it seems :

MacRumors said:
The report notes that the TouchPad hardware had essentially already been designed when HP acquired Palm last year, with the engineers tasked with getting webOS running on the existing design.
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Essentially, I'm betting HP didn't even give it 6 weeks. The decision to abandon the hardware is probably something that has been brewing for quite some time, way before they even launched the hardware. Remember this :

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/09/live-from-hp-palms-think-beyond-webos-event/

Remember how they announced WebOS for printers ? Computers ?

Then June 1st, this little gem :

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/hps-leo-apotheker-totally-open-to-licensing-webos-to-other-hand/

I'm guessing HP has been planning this for a while. They only pushed out Palm's hardware, but really, it has been their plan to drop the hardware all along.

The way they did it sure hurts the credibility of the platform though (before this news, I might have picked one up at 299$ just for kicks, Staples offered that deal a few times).
 
andyplace said:
I can guarantee you that if this story is actually true, they would be testing it on an iPad 1.

For them to run on iPad 2, they would have to bootstrap a separate kernel etc. while iOS is already booted. They would also have to have a place to put all the operating system files for WebOS to use that would not interfere with iOS.

In the case of iPad 1, they can load WebOS from the bootrom level because of a DFU exploit.

Also, the WebOS team would have had to reverse all of the 'drivers' for the flash memory, screen, digitizer, etc -- this is something that the iPhone-Android team has been struggling with for years. The iPhone-Android project does not support iPad at all yet.

So my point is that it is extremely unlikely they ran "true" webOS on an iPad. The person reporting it probably made it up to make HP's tablet look bad. (which it is...)
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I suspected as such. If HP could reverse engineer an iPad 2 to that level, geohot would have already done it.

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KnightWRX said:
I'm guessing this little tidbit is more important than it seems :



Essentially, I'm betting HP didn't even give it 6 weeks. The decision to abandon the hardware is probably something that has been brewing for quite some time, way before they even launched the hardware. Remember this :

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/09/live-from-hp-palms-think-beyond-webos-event/

Remember how they announced WebOS for printers ? Computers ?

Then June 1st, this little gem :

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/hps-leo-apotheker-totally-open-to-licensing-webos-to-other-hand/

I'm guessing HP has been planning this for a while. They only pushed out Palm's hardware, but really, it has been their plan to drop the hardware all along.

The way they did it sure hurts the credibility of the platform though (before this news, I might have picked one up at 299$ just for kicks, Staples offered that deal a few times).
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That is true. When the acquisition was made, HP said they were "doubling down" on webOS. They never seemed too keen in the hardware.
 
re webos running faster on ipad2

"shame shame shame" - gomer pyle - circa 1965

btw: "menudo - the breakfast of champions" - circa 1975
 
Yellowstone2012 said:
This is a joke, right? (No)

Their own hardware can't run WebOS at "top speed" and iPad 2 can run it 2x faster then HP's hardware?
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Yeah, they own both the hardware and software, and still complain about the hardware??? it makes no sense!!! They have the hardware under their control, it was up to them to make it better.

And they've been bragging about how much better were the specs of the TouchPad compare to the iPad; now they blame the hardware?

how disappointing... a total failure.

All these comments are just pure lame excuses... :eek:
 
Is this site dedicated to finger dragging ape OS's or Macs? It's pretty hard to find the "Mac" part of the culture anymore.
 
cwwilson said:
What is it with webOS and it always being stuck on crappy hardware? The TouchPad, Pre, Pixi are just a joke hardware wise.
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Hence why I think HP always wanted to be simply a software vendor for WebOS and hoping others take up the hardware design and creation for it. They basically bought Palm to emulate Google's and Microsoft's business model for their mobile OS, hoping it would catch on as much as Android did.

But I think they should have went that way from the start and gotten a few OEMs on board instead of shipping the TouchPad, Pre3 and Veer.
 
iMikeT said:
webOS runs better on an iPad than their own device?

That's like saying "Windows runs better on a Mac". Oh, wait....
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That comparison is flawed. Windows isn't tied to any specific hardware platform and/or components.
 
iMikeT said:
webOS runs better on an iPad than their own device?

Saying that is saying something along the lines of "Windows runs better on a Mac".
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LOL, that has been said already. It's a fact that Windows runs better on a Mac under BootCamp.

Still, I wouldn't waste my Mac's Hard Drive space and time dual-booting just to run Windows.

(I do have Windows installed under Parallels 6, just for certain applications I need to run for work, probably once every 4 months, and in case I need to analyze a new virus, or do other testing.)
 
Interesting that software runs better on Apple hardware. Windows XP runs better on my Macs as a virtual machine (Fusion & Virtual Box) than as a physical machine on my past VAIO's and Dell's.
 
Apple is unique for many reasons, but the biggest is the APP Store, and its selection, competition without the APP Store= epic fail!
Apple owns the thin and light Laptop Line,with the MBA as well as the Tablet line. The iPad is an amazing product, #3 with the retina display, will take it over the top, what other Company will or can invest 3 Billion in a display just for the iPad.
The NEW THINNER 15 & 17 " MBP's will be a win/win again, next year you will see the stock go to 500, in spite of the wimps on Wall Street:eek::cool::apple::apple:
 
Considering the same CPU (with a baseband on the SoC) is in plenty of Android smartphones, I don't think its the hardware. I'm pretty sure it's the software stack that runs webOS.
 
Hard to take them serious. They put little effort into bringing hardware that made sense, then when it does not sell good they blame the OS. Who is running HP now a days, some old cook. :confused:
 
dagamer34 said:
Considering the same CPU (with a baseband on the SoC) is in plenty of Android smartphones, I don't think its the hardware. I'm pretty sure it's the software stack that runs webOS.
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It's actually not in too many handsets yet. Only one I know of is the Sensation from HTC. It's not slow necessarily, but it's not nearly as fast as the OMAP 4xxx series, Tegra 2 or Exynos; all of which Palm/HP could have designed to.
 
troop231 said:
webOS had a cool few things going for it, but ultimately those things did not entice customers enough to buy the products.
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WebOS was not the problem, hardware was a joke. Come on who is dumb enough to bring out sub-par hardware to a tablet market that Apple is running.

Old cook's like the CEO need to be throw out and new blood brought in like they did with IBM. Where is the innovation HP, where is the thinking outside the box.

Money alone does not make a product capable. I guess they are so use an easy business plan against Dell, Apple is not Dell, HP.

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ARandomFellow said:
... that there is a lesson here; rushing to build a product to compete with someone else's already very good product, and producing an inferior product is bad. Most 1st year business students would understand that you don't take on the 800 pound gorilla with a dwarf in a monkey suit. I just don't understand why so many business think that they have to compete on every front, regardless of whether their product is actually good. In technology circles, that's suicide. Tech is moving too quickly to put out inferior products. People won't buy them because they'll find out quickly that they are not worth it.
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On thought come to mind, "Old people think different".
 
alq said:
Does that actually mean they jailbroke the iPad to get their WebOS on it?
Shame on you, HP :p
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I think they actually ran it iPad's Safari - which makes this even a more of joke. That its actually twice as fast with iPad web browser.
 
kiljoy616 said:
WebOS was not the problem, hardware was a joke. Come on who is dumb enough to bring out sub-par hardware to a tablet market that Apple is running.

Old cook's like the CEO need to be throw out and new blood brought in like they did with IBM. Where is the innovation HP, where is the thinking outside the box.

Money alone does not make a product capable. I guess they are so use an easy business plan against Dell, Apple is not Dell, HP.

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On thought come to mind, "Old people think different".
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dual core snapdragon CPU is not subpar

problem is that the A5 has some features borrowed from the x86 world that other ARM CPU's don't have
 
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