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Huawei Ad Teases 'The Real AI Phone', Mocks Facial Recognition in Clear Dig at Apple

Exile714 said:
Ok, is nobody going to mention the fact that they claim their processors are 20 times faster than traditional processors? Sure, they made fun of FaceID, whatever, this claim is by far the bigger BS of the story.

20x improvement is a 2000% increase in performance. I don’t even know what that would look like, but a company that could pull that off would have basically cornered the market for processors for decades.

So, I guess, congrats Huawei (Hoo-Ah-Way)?
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Their language is intentionally ambiguous, but I read it that the neural processing unit is 20x faster, not the actual processor itself.
 
69Mustang said:
Picky? Please tell me you're kidding. There is absolutely nothing in your quote referencing R&D or production. Literally nothing. But there is implication in your quote that you were in fact referencing the keynote. Actually there's more than implication, there are actual words in your quote referencing the keynote.

Please help me connect the dots from what you wrote to R&D and production. No snark. I don't see a connection at all.
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I don't see what your problem is man, seriously. I was simply stating that the function worked perfectly fine as it should have however it still ruined the demo because obviously that's not what Apple wanted, everybody knows the story. That's it, seriously, no idea why you keep commenting on that.
 
Sunny1990 said:
Here is a video i would like to share with you.
It's not the Apple of Steve Jobs Era, it's Tim Cook Apple.
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What I love about this clip is he says "the $1000 emoji machine" in TC's voice :)
 
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maflynn said:
Correct, but the people who want these are typically young kids, such as teen girls, yet the phone's price tag is certainly not targeted towards them. So if you're positioning a phone's price point for a given demographic, then it should have features for that demographic, not for some teen girls, who use snapchat all the time. I'm not knocking that, as my girls use those sort of things, but they're certainly not getting an iPhone x.


I trot out the corpse when it makes sense, and in this instance its apropo. Jobs gave Apple a coolness factor, including great products, I see the opposite under Cook.
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You're not thinking big enough, Maflynn. Imagine a world where you hand your phone to a your boss, friend, family to look at a picture in your gallery but because they aren't you when they swipe left or right they don't see your nudes. :p
 
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GrumpyMom said:
@LovingTeddy
Yes, we know you may live and work in Canada currently, but are all about the greatness of the collective hivelike synergy between citizens, business and government, over any sense of individual rights. You've spoken about how your government engineered a rapid transformation from agrarian poverty to industrial greatness. I can understand your pride in that, however...and I'll get to that "however" in a moment.

And while you personally have not spoken of achieving domination of Chinese business in all industries, plenty of your countrymen have in many honest and public interviews, by whatever means necessary, such as copying and adaptation of pre-existing IP. (I do commend their honesty, though it is fueled by raw arrogance because they know their methods are tried and true and will succeed because our companies are killing themselves with their raw greed. Our top executives are the worst. Unfortunately it's our workers who suffer).

Our companies really are stupid and deserve to fail if they persist in giving away everything that makes them what they are, in order to get access to your vast market. Time and time again, we have seen western companies attempt to do business in good faith in China, only to emerge battered and almost bankrupt with nothing to show for it, but a new adversary ready to enter OUR market with concepts, designs, and products that look oddly familiar, but are less expensive. And just crappy enough to necessitate us coming back for more, as everything breaks down and clogs our landfills and recycling centers months and even years before it really ought to be breaking down.

...and now the "however"...

I could respect your country's growing dominance and amazing progress IF all of that wonderful rapid progress had not depended so heavily on THEFT and betrayal. But I don't hold my country blameless. Nor Apple. Any of our businesses who do business in your country do tend to exploit the labor of good people, even children, struggling to make a living wage. Your government allows it to happen because it's fueling your growth and economic engine. Some of our businesses turn a blind eye to it for the same reason and it's left to socially conscience consumers to demand better for your people and ours.

The key difference is that I know many people who genuinely care about the people in your country. We recoil from tales of worker exploitation and boycott products we know are produced in unsafe conditions. Consumers pressured Apple to do everything in their power to ensure humane working conditions when we became aware of the suicides at Foxconn. We care. We work hard to try not to say anything that could be construed as racist even when it costs us in jobs. But I really don't know if your people return that care. I hope, so but I have yet to see any indication they do or could, when individual identity is so tightly woven with business and government identity.

Anyway, you have some nerve coming on to an Apple forum and calling it overpriced crap and calling us fanboys. I own an HTC and a Samsung, so I'm hardly nationalistic or a fanboy, by the way. And since my iPhone is manufactured in China, if it were crap, then China can take some of the blame for that. But the fact that it is not crap is testament that Chinese workers are pretty damned good. They have my respect. Their government and their industry leaders do not.
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That was a solid reply.
 
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tomnavratil said:
I don't see what your problem is man, seriously. I was simply stating that the function worked perfectly fine as it should have however it still ruined the demo because obviously that's not what Apple wanted, everybody knows the story. That's it, seriously, no idea why you keep commenting on that.
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I wasn't going to reply, but now I am somehow unnaturally drawn to your shifting narrative. 1st, it worked as intended in the keynote. It didn't. 2nd, you were referencing R&D and production. Not sure why. 3rd, now you're saying exactly what I said (it worked but not the way Apple wanted). I agree. I'm happy we're in agreement.:)
 
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It should tell you everything you need to know about a company’s own products when they have to spend time talking about someone else’s. Not to mention the free advertising companies like Huawei, Google, & Samsung hands to Apple because they don’t believe their own products are good enough to stand on their own.
 
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69Mustang said:
I wasn't going to reply, but now I am somehow unnaturally drawn to your shifting narrative. 1st, it worked as intended in the keynote. It didn't. 2nd, you were referencing R&D and production. Not sure why. 3rd, now your saying exactly what I said (it worked but not the way Apple wanted). I agree. I'm happy we're in agreement.:)
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Ufff. It worked properly, as intended. However more people used it and it failed, the Face ID didn't fail. Organisation around it did. I should have explained it better in my original post, never mind. Glad it makes you happy.
 
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"The REAL AI phone... now with facial recognition and a cognitive coprocessor, just like Apple."
 
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BrettArchibald said:
Before: Everyone on the forums slams Apple's new Face ID, without having tried it.
Another mobile manufacturer slams Apple's new Face ID, without having tried it.
Now: Everyone on the forums defends Apple's new Face ID, saying you shouldn't judge it without having tried it.

You can't make this stuff up...
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Yeah, you can make this stuff up.
And you just did.
All you have to do is make erroneous assumptions that the Before people are the same as the Now people.
 
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Michaelgtrusa said:
That was a solid reply.
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Thanks, but I do wish I had an editor to help me brief and to the point. Attempting to stay respectful to the subject and to the person I'm addressing, while pointing out harsh truths as I see them, makes me a bit wordy. :(
 
While I couldn’t care less about the opinions of a desperate Chinese competitor, I can’t help but laugh at the iPhone X parody. The truth hurts.
 
Competition is great for everyone. It keeps manufacturers working hard to earn our hard earned dollars. I hope Apple takes the high-road and does not respond to this. They don't need to. #FaceIDGate will disappear once the devices are in the hands of users. The time period to mock this feature will be very narrow.
 
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