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This is all very reminiscent of a certain Steve Balmer a decade or so ago.
"Would I trade 96% of the market for 4% of the market? (Laughter.) I want to have products that appeal to everybody."
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Never be complacent about your competition. Yes, Huawei is competition.
Belittling their products is not a wise way of engaging.

Apple were the underdog once. Things change.


Yes, but huawei needs to wait for Apple products to copy and then sell.
 
Huawei make the hardware, well at least the upgrade to the Masts 3G>4G for EE 4G cells (EE largest mobile network in UK).

I have a Huawei 4G wifi router as I cant get landline broadband where I live.

So I rely on Huawei for internet access 100%

Huawei have the knowledge of the workings of the mobile network and infrastructure so I'd say they're well placed to challenge Apple & Samsung in smartphone sales.
I believe they will challenge Samsung before Apple even if it's not their stated goal. They will be offering a phone for 70% of the price with 95% of the functionality of an s8.
 
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I think it's great that more of the Chinese brands are significantly improving their product offerings and bringing them to the US. It's good for diversity in the market and provides lower cost options for people that maybe can't afford an iPhone or higher priced Samsung. It used to be that the low price came with inferior tech and poor design, but that just isn't necessarily the case anymore - which is a great thing.
 
Is this Friday slow news day? I would think this would be more of a threat to Samsung than Apple.
 
Huawei is my favorite Android manufacturer ATM. They make extremely high quality phones for the price and have adapted their Android skin, EMUI, from a ****** iOS clone into a pretty sensible, minimal, adaptable skin that adds useful features. and has been improving on the software and hardware side at a far faster clip than either Apple or Samsung.

Mobile OSes will evolve to be more open with much less reliance on native apps. Once the lock-in incentive is gone, Apple is going to lose a lot of customers just like MS did in the mid 2000s when web 2.0 apps like Facebook, GMail, YouTube and Google's suite of office tools meant people were doing most of their work in a cross platform browser. Once that reality penetrates the mind of hte average consumer, expect these more aggressive, experimental companies like Xiaomi and Huawei to encroach on Apple's near monopoly of premium device sales.
 
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No doubt... but the bulk of Huawei's sales come from their 32 other models... which have a MUCH lower price.

Think about it... how does Huawei have $700 phones... but their overall average selling price is around $250 ?

Answer... they sell A LOT of $100-$200 phones. Or maybe cheaper.

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Huawei current lineup

Isn't that the same with Samsung?

That's actually a clever strategy. They use their high-end phones to show that the brand is not cheap, so that their low-end and mid-level phones can sell more easily. Then, with the big sales number built up by the low-end and mid-level phones, the awareness of the brand name becomes better and better, finally supercharge the sales of their flagship phones.
 
It's not about being made in China, it's about a Chinese company potentially having access to my data.

The Chinese are no less trustworthy than any player or architect that programs the apps you use, or provides internet services. In fact, homeland businesses and government agencies have the most to gain from you, and can influence your life more by virtue of their proximity.
 
So you don't like the Chinese-made iPhone?
Chinese-made is different than Chinese designed. All smartphones are Chinese-made no matter whose phone it is. A Chinese-designed phone could easily have malware, weak security and possibly tracking code for China to spy on consumers in other countries. We've seen this before with Lenovo and also many cheap Chinese routers and CCTV cameras. It's kind of like most Android phones in that the $100 or $200 you save on the purchase comes back to you in the form of malware, security issues and advertising that tracks you.
 
Isn't that the same with Samsung?

That's actually a clever strategy. They use their high-end phones to show that the brand is not cheap, so that their low-end and mid-level phones can sell more easily. Then, with the big sales number built up by the low-end and mid-level phones, the awareness of the brand name becomes better and better, finally supercharge the sales of their flagship phones.

Yep... Samsung does it too.

They have expensive flagships like the Galaxy S8, S8+ and Note up in the $700-800 range...

But their overall average selling price is actually $227

Samsung can move almost 80 million units in a quarter... but they are mostly their low-end and mid-range phones.

There's nothing wrong with it... it's just how it is.
 
I guess you confused it with Xiaomi, which used to only copy, nothing unique of its own. Huawei is totally different, it copies the least among all of the existing Android brands.

Yeah I did, and I'm relieved it's not Xiamomi. I really do think if they were dominant there would be an innovation problem.
 
Yep... Samsung does it too.

They have expensive flagships like the Galaxy S8, S8+ and Note up in the $700-800 range...

But their overall average selling price is actually $227

Samsung can move almost 80 million units in a quarter... but they are mostly their low-end and mid-range phones.

There's nothing wrong with it... it's just how it is.

With the increase of their brand awareness, they will sell more and more of their high-end flagship phones, eating up into the premier market that Apple mostly dominates.
 
I don't see the vast majority of Americans who can't even pronounce Huawei purchasing this over the many other more recognizable options.
Yes but under the Honor branding they're targeting "Millennials" (from an article about them--not my words) quite successfully and have a little bit of a following growing from what I can see from lurking about amongst Android postings.

When I first got interested in Android phones I initially thought their phones were appealing. I liked their bold color palettes, and on paper the specs were nice for the money.

But as I read more about how closely business and government are intertwined in China, I don't feel as tempted by their offerings without knowing more. We have read about Tim touting Apple's investments in China and commitment to jobs creation in China. I wanted to see if Huawei reciprocates with a similar investment and commitment to my country.

Not that I'm particularly interested in their phones at this time. But the curiosity is there.

They have made some commitments as per their website here. http://usahuawei.com/huawei-in-america/investment-in-america/

Meanwhile...whatever...I'm just popping in and out to see if our buddy Homepod is spilling any more beans about IPhone 8.
 
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I really wish T-Mobile would carry Huawei. I was seriously interested in the Mate 9.
I played with it in the store. I own an iPhone 7 Plus and could see I'm not missing much. It was impressive in some ways that I can't remember now, but my overall impression was that the corners cut to keep the price lower could be felt, and we are better served picking up deals on older flagships. My HTC 10 on sale was a much better value. iPhone SE is a better value.
 
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Is this Friday slow news day? I would think this would be more of a threat to Samsung than Apple.

What does your comment have anything to do with News being slow? The point is Huwaei is making its breach into US carrier markets where is competition for Samsung and Apple alike. Furthermore, it's likely be more affordable and have similar capabilities to both competitors.
 
Huawei has been on European market for several years with Honor and Huawei brand. 2010 it was completely b***s**t but now days they are doing great mostly because competition has turned over once again. Samsung is soon dead as Nokia (Before Microsoft). OnePlus is trending and Huawei is most selling android brand.
 
This is all very reminiscent of a certain Steve Balmer a decade or so ago.
"Would I trade 96% of the market for 4% of the market? (Laughter.) I want to have products that appeal to everybody."
Link.

Never be complacent about your competition. Yes, Huawei is competition.
Belittling their products is not a wise way of engaging.

Apple were the underdog once. Things change.
Which is why common people don't run big corporations.
 
I find it odd that the government banned them from selling routers in the U.S. because they could build in back doors and leak information, but they don't have the same concern about smart phones, which arguably would have a much stronger likely hood of having a back door.
 
They can sell as many of their phones they want, but why would people give up something that works for them, namely the iPhone, especially if costs aren't a concern?
 
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