The money needed to buy it outright. I'm not in the best financial place due to all my medical bills from my heart condition. So I've been forced to do EIP for a while.
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The money needed to buy it outright. I'm not in the best financial place due to all my medical bills from my heart condition. So I've been forced to do EIP for a while.
This is so off the mark. What these folk don't realise is that Huawei are competing with samsung and google, NOT Apple. They can't even offer the same software. Huawei will be super popular, and may well usurp Samsung and Google as the top vendors for Android. There's only 1 company making an iPhone and it sells SO well it's not gonna go away any time soon. Stop being stupid.
There is a percentage of iPhone users who are on the border or have bounced back and forth before. Huawei will attract a portion of these along with other Android users.
Yup, my next phone will most likely be either from google or samsung. Honestly, I'm bored with iOS. My iPhone 7 has a lot of cool features, but it "feels" the exact same as every other iPhone I've had (starting with the 3gs) because iOS largely looks the same and the new phone doesn't feel "new" because of that. Sure, Apple has a processing advantage but no apps even come close to taking advantage of it since new apps have to support 3-4 year old phones, which again means things don't actually seem all that faster than my previous iPhones. Just watching videos and seeing how you can customize the visual experience so much with Android means you can constantly keep things fresh. Ther'es also a ton of features on new android devices that are super helpful and cool for example edge light notifications in various colors giving you a glimpse at who they're from (in Samsung models at least). Not to mention, after actually holding and using the S8+ in person, it's honestly pretty incredible. It's one thing to look at pictures or videos of the design, but holding it takes it even further and makes my 7+ seems sooooo dull. I also like the multitasking on the S8+ with having two windows on top of each other. Even with iOS 11, the biggest improvements are for the iPad, so I don't see customizability on iPhone coming anywhere close to android in the near future.
I'm sure the iPhone 8 is going to be awesome, but for me, I'm not all that excited as the user experience will largely be the same as what I've experienced for the last decade.
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Yes, but the question is whether the presence of Huawei in the market will pull across a larger portion of those. My guess is, unless they come up with something absolutely remarkable on the hardware front, probably not.
And it's hard to come up with something more remarkable than Samsung, which has put some great products into the high end space, and Google themselves who are inexplicably competing with their own OEMs.
I've heard good things about Huawei's devices. I'm guessing that once they have a sizable international presence, it will drive some of the smaller Android players out and start cutting pretty deeply into Samsung's margins. Google's not in it for the money, which is another problem for everybody else.
Thanks to Apple, the industry now cares a lot more about good design than they ever would have without Apple. Not saying their phones are all epitomes of good design, but at least there is that element of care and thought that goes into the design process.
I feel Apple deserves credit for that, if nothing else.
Apple has been in decline in China for several consecutive quarters. That is after all these investment and ass kissing to Chinese government.
Carrier lock is pretty much outlawed by China and people are buying phones outright. This is what happens when contract and carrier lock is not available.
iPhone is doing well when there is a contract and carrier subsidy. When contract and carrier subsidy is thing in the past, iPhone will be in sharp decline. iPhone is simply rip off and people are noticing that.
Well die-hard Apple fans do not, others may well do. I do for example. I’d hate an iOS device as my daily driver, too slow and clunky to do many things.
I still have my P9, which works great and I love it, and I’m looking closely now at the Essential (still an unknown) vs the Mate 10, which will probably be a very solid performer. I used Samsung in the past and I don’t want another Samsung phone, the app duplication - more forceful now since Bixby - is a major turn off. EMUI since version 5 is probably the best Android skin out there, and in my opinion clearly better than stock.
Huawei phones are very popular in Europe because they’re very good (including the Honor brand), and typically sold for a bit less compared to similar tiers from the competition.
Dont worry eventually Apple will be forced to drop their prices once they start to see their market share start to drop because of the lower price phones coming from China . Its just a matter of time. People is China want phones and with nearly 2 billion potential customers that has nothing to do with pride. Money talks and thats they way the world rolls.
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Has nothing to do with higher phone market. Phones coming from China can make just as good quality phones as Apple and hundreds of dollars cheaper. Everyone is brainwashed thinking Apple has this magical unicorn phone that only apple can make. lol get real.
Just a few:
- Multi-touch. Many phones in 2007 had touch, none (as far as I know) had multi-touch. Now all have them.
- Creation of their own custom chips (the A7, for example, was the first 64-bit ARM chip to be put in a smartphone).
- Digital assistant integrated in a phone OS with multiple language support.
- Integration of Touch ID on a phone. No phone would be complete without this now.
- 3D Touch and haptic feedback on a phone.
- Recognition that sensors allow developers to take a device to the next level. Both 3-axis accelerometers and gyroscopes were integrated in iPhones first, and game devs went wild.
Talk about having blinders on. These are just a few I can come up with from the top of my head that only became commonplace after Apple pushed the industry to adopt them:
Multitouch
Accelerometer and gyroscope sensors
Predictive keyboards
High dpi screens
Industrial design
No carrier bloat or control
Airplay/wireless casting
Minimal input lag (1 to 1 touch responsiveness)
Interactive notifications (without having to open the app)
Accessibility features
Fingerprint readers
Full device encryption
Full device backups
Smooth scrolling
Duel LED flash
NFC payments
Battery and power efficiency
Device remote lock at the firmware level (in case lost or stolen)
Granular permission controls
Digital Assistant
Dual Cameras for depth and zooming
64bit CPUs
CPU and GPU performance
Not listed because it is still not too common in the industry even after being introduced (we'll see with time if it will)
3D touch
Haptic feedback (yes I know it's existed prior but not to the granular degree the Taptic engine does it)
Not to say Apple didn't also get some inspiration the other way around such as with notifications, multitasking,
OTA updates, 3rd party keyboards and other things. And I hope iOS will adopt the neat technique Android O will use of doing OS updates in a separate partition without needing to reboot beforehand. But to say Apple hasn't been an influence or at the forefront of the industry in many aspects is just plain ignorant.
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Apple is on their way to being a trillion dollar company 
I doubt this Chinese company will make a big enough dent in the market.
I doubt this Chinese company will make a big enough dent in the market.
Honestly, what other phone or phones have pushed the industry like the iPhone? The only brand close is probably the Nexus line, with innovations in NFC, USB-C, and wireless charging, hardware wise. Software wise, I believe Android led the way in being able to handle RAW images, and I think that Android's way of handling SD cards is ground-breaking for a phone. Yes, Google has made several innovations in the industry. But, and this is a big but, not even other Android manufactures always follow along with Google's vision.
Android is not first in innovation because Google has to herd cats. They can't go all out like Apple and take risks because they have to build their OS to be more flexible due to the wide range of hardware it will be run on.
So, who's left. Samsung? Beautiful devices, probably led the way in understanding that the public wanted water-resistance in their phones. The Moto X's integrated car-mode was very nice. No one is saying all the innovation in the field is from Apple. But, Apple does have the largest and most disruptive impact on the industry.
Except... Blu is American company based in Florida.
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Now give me some of the Apple innovations. I see none from the list.
You have anything more to say than just a one-sentenced response? And read what I wrote carefully. They weren't necessarily *first* in all these things but they adopted this tech in such a way that pushed these technologies into the mainstream.
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In all of these, they adopted or developed the tech in such a way that it became user-friendly and intuitive. That's the innovation. And that's why all of that list is mainstream now.
You guys just take all this for granted now like self-entitled millennials. Please name me *one* other company who you believe pushed the industry forward as much as Apple did and your justifications why.
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Or Chinese design. Apple phones are assembled in China but the design and content is heavily controlled by Apple.
Overall I think Samsung needs to worry about this more than Apple. Huawaie is an Android manufacturer and directly competes against other Android phones.
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The only way this phone becomes a competitor to iPhone is IF this Android phone can pull iOS users into Android. Most people make the mistake that the competition is on the hardware when the competition is between platforms (Android vs iOS). Most of Huwaei's initial market capture will be against other Android phones, (HTC, Motorola, LG, Samsung, etc). Competition between Android manufacturers does not impact Apple. Only if Huwaei could make the Android platform more attractive to users would it impact Apple. Since Huwaei is not modifying Android in any way -- I don't see that happening.
Clearly Android has won the OS competition by a huge margin. The only place where Apple has the edge is at the very high end of prices, where people buy their phones due to combination of carrier subsidies/loans (US mostly), vendor lock-in on essential services (iMessage, FaceTime, iCloud, AirPlay - all unavailable on Android), fashion tech/lifestyle/sheer snobbery, unusual large ecosystem investments (apps and other hardware) and ignorance (smartphone == iPhone).
Also clearly, Apple has failed to make a dent in the mid-range segment, with the 5C and the SE, which haven’t been successful.
This leaves Huawei in a pretty good spot, to further their market share in the Android segment - which is extremely large, so it gives them room to grow - and attack the mid-range and high-end segments with very good phones at better prices than the competition. This remains to be seen if successful. In my opinion the Mate 8 and P9 were top phones, but the company rested on their laurels with the less impressive P10 and the Mate 9. If they can back into offering cutting-edge designs, they’ll probably do well.
I am extremely happy about this. Such a major player in the Android market, with excellent devices in all the tiers, will heat up the competition, to the benefit of most of us. The only ones who won’t benefit are the die-hard Apple fans locked into paying ~$800-$1000 for a phone, with most costs hidden from them in future bills.
Platform to platform android wins, manufacture to manufacture Apple wins.
Seems the SE is selling well, but will never make a dent when compared to the totality of cheap android phones.
Huawei win is going to be Samsungs loss and the other android flagships, not apples, imo.
I'm a diehard Apple fan, and so are my 50 person extended family. I buy my iPhones outright. I find no difference between $500 and $1000 to get the phone and value I want. YMMV.
They are almost giving away network, server and storage hardware/software to carriers all over the world to make sure they promote their phones. Just look at the diversity of products they make. Maybe USA/CAN/EU carriers buy server/network/storage from others, but they are taking the space one carrier at a time.
I'm too lazy to go back and look at the list but what is there to be user-friendly or intuitive about high res display or dual led flash? It is what it is. They slap in Samsung display and that's user-friendly and intuitive? Dual LED flash has been around for a long time. Even before the first iphone existed. And let's face it. Siri was and is a gimmick. Amazon and Google own in that category and they are pushing it. NFC payment? I only saw a few retailer that takes Apple Pay whereas almost every place takes Samsung Pay. How's that pushing it?
Sure... they "win" in raw numbers.
There are 2 billion Android devices out in the world versus only 1 billion iOS devices.
But that shouldn't be a knock against iOS... it just proves that Android excels in deployment.
Android is a multi-manufacturer platform covering a WIDE variety of price ranges... mostly low-end and mid-range.
It would be news if Android wasn't the king of deployment!
For what is regarding user friendliness and intuitive, I was referring to technologies that existed before but either didn't work well or were complicated to use. Obviously that only applies to some on that list such as the fingerprint reader or NFC payments.
The debate is not who does it better (in regards to Siri). We are talking about who popularized it or made it mainstream. That is all. You're trying to steer the conversation away from that.
Same for NFC payments. Again we are not talking about who has the widest adoption today.
You're trying to derail the conversation to say "who does it best" when that was not the original discussion. We were talking about who did it first or who pushed a certain technology to become widely adopted and mainstream.