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Huawei Closing in on Apple, Aims to Become World's Largest Smartphone Maker Within Four Years
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And has been discussed endlessly, pretty much with millions of devices, there are variations. 10.3 beta 1 is pretty much flawless. Best ever beta release. Kudos to apple. You're having an app specific issue.
Not really. Nothing was really revolutionary, just popular.
Apple is big on privacy and protecting user data. Until Huawei proves the Chinese aren't peeping they could make platinum-plated multi dimensional telepathy enabled phones and not make a dent in Apple's core market.
We were talking about Apple Watches costing around $80 to make, and the fact that it did not take billions of dollars to design or have them made.
Not sure why you keep bringing up "building your own fab", since Apple did not do that either. Why would they? They just did what everyone else does: contract most everything out to various Chinese suppliers and factories.
The Apple Watch itself is assembled in a Quanta factory, next to laptops etc. Although the story is that Quanta had no experience with such a small form factor, and had to borrow a few thousand Foxconn employees to get started.
You don't need to any more. Heck there are dozens of small mom & pop outfits making their own smartphones in China. They use off the shelf MediaTek processors and Android, along with any of the zillion Chinese factories that will build almost anything you want.
I didn't say that. What I said was that design and manufacturing doesn't cost what you think it does. I also said that plenty of device makers make a decent living even without high margins. And that yes, many consumers would rather that any extra money stayed in their own pocket. Others are quite welcome to spend more. We've all done it
Xiaomi bet on cheaper phones in China, but should've stuck with their higher end ones where they were more unique.
OTOH, apparently Xiaomi did great in India last year, coming in 4th not far behind Apple.
Xiaomi's biggest problem is that with the way they copy Apple, they would have a hard time entering the US market without Apple's lawyers coming off the bench
Its there in almost any app.Netflix,Gmail, WhatsApp, Facebook. Its nowhere near as bad as it was on iPhone 6.But still I wouldnt say its 60 fps smooth
No Jobs---->No iPhone,iPad,Mac------>We would still be using this
It's the same point whether it's widgets, watches or phones. You're playing fast and loose with other people's(corporations) money.We were talking about Apple Watches costing around $80 to make, and the fact that it did not take billions of dollars to design or have them made.
Not sure why you keep bringing up "building your own fab", since Apple did not do that either. Why would they? They just did what everyone else does: contract most everything out to various Chinese suppliers and factories.
The Apple Watch itself is assembled in a Quanta factory, next to laptops etc. Although the story is that Quanta had no experience with such a small form factor, and had to borrow a few thousand Foxconn employees to get started.
You don't need to any more. Heck there are dozens of small mom & pop outfits making their own smartphones in China. They use off the shelf MediaTek processors and Android, along with any of the zillion Chinese factories that will build almost anything you want.
I didn't say that. What I said was that design and manufacturing doesn't cost what you think it does. I also said that plenty of device makers make a decent living even without high margins. And that yes, many consumers would rather that any extra money stayed in their own pocket. Others are quite welcome to spend more. We've all done it
Xiaomi bet on cheaper phones in China, but should've stuck with their higher end ones where they were more unique.
OTOH, apparently Xiaomi did great in India last year, coming in 4th not far behind Apple.
Xiaomi's biggest problem is that with the way they copy Apple, they would have a hard time entering the US market without Apple's lawyers coming off the bench
Apple is under no obligation to reduce prices, use their war-chest for unlimited R&D or anything else that has been mentioned. There are certainly ways, such as replacing the board of directors, which could change the ceo, which could change apples directions.Opining on an internet forum is not going to get that done.
I'm not sure how anyone really knows how much R&D costs for a given product other than hearsay.
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That has nothing to do with the direction Cook has taken apple. It's obvious everything that is built relies on those who come before. If it weren't for motorola we would all be using this.Its there in almost any app.Netflix,Gmail, WhatsApp, Facebook. Its nowhere near as bad as it was on iPhone 6.But still I wouldnt say its 60 fps smooth
No Jobs---->No iPhone,iPad,Mac------>We would still be using this
It's the same point whether it's widgets, watches or phones. You're playing fast and loose with other people's(corporations) money.
I never said any of that. You just did. Heck, they can charge whatever they want and can get away with.
What I've been talking about, is that claims that Apple NEEDS all that extra profit for R&D, are demonstrably incorrect. Otherwise they wouldn't have so much left over AFTER paying for R&D.
Apple is stashing away hundreds of billions and doing nothing with it. That's their right, but nobody can excuse it as being necessary for anything except as a backup if Cook screws up too badly. Even then, he'd have to actually be LOSING money all the time, which seems very unlikely to happen no matter what.
Who is saying apple NEEDS the "extra" profit? What "extra" profit? Profit is profit. Who is determining it's "extra"?
Apple stashing away money didn't start with Cook. They didn't amass $250 billion dollars from 2011.
I always find these statements comical . tell us where again, iPhones are designed, developed and where iOS is programmed?
Yeah, I just revisited the box my 7 came in. Designed by Apple in California. Assembled in China.
Who do you think really has the last word just before the screen gets glued down, hmmmm?
Who do you think really has the last word just before the screen gets glued down, hmmmm?
I just want an iPhone with smaller bezels and a better grip. I am stuck with an iPhone 5, i don't care that much about others think of my smartphone.
Yep. Poor people should start out with low price units, and trade up to high value units over time.
I never denied Motorola revolutionised communication. But the next biggest Revolution was spearheaded by Jobs. Timmy iterated on what Jobs invented just like how other companies iterated on that antique telephone you just postedIt's the same point whether it's widgets, watches or phones. You're playing fast and loose with other people's(corporations) money.
Opining on an internet forum is not going to get that done.
I'm not sure how anyone really knows how much R&D costs for a given product other than hearsay.
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That has nothing to do with the direction Cook has taken apple. It's obvious everything that is built relies on those who come before. If it weren't for motorola we would all be using this.
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So you've changed from high profit margin to high value items, and felt the need to highlight the word VALUE.. the two are not the same.. feel free to reply again with comments not relevant to your original post.
Turns out selling a ton of phones at razor thin margins isn't exactly sustainable either. Who would have imagined...
Right jobs relied on what others did previously. Cellphone was the revolution, iPhone was a popular iteration.
As long as there's some profit, there's sustainability.
Phone makers have lived with thin margins on many products for decades. So what if a $40 phone only nets $4, as long as it sells enough to keep the company owner and employees happy. Especially in places like China or India, that doesn't take much. And the owner is making millions.
As for Xiaomi, there is a mistaken idea that they're losing money. On the contrary, they're still making plenty of money, just not as much as was predicted a year or two ago. They also rank something like fourth in sales in both China and India.
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There's a night and day difference between a Hyundai Elantra and a NASCAR race car. Yet they both have 4 tires, brakes, engines and move people from one place to another.
The difference between an iPhone and a conventional cellphone is far greater than a race car vs Hyundai. The iPhone does a LOT more than just call people