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And most of these people voted for Trump
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I LOL'd out loud!
It was loud!
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And most of these people voted for Trump
No surprise that nobody said that. You love creating strawman arguments
To cost $80 dollars to make an AW..all you need is a few billion in r and d, a fab plant, and commitment for x millions of watches. Then it cost you $80 to make. If you don't have the pre-reqs it could cost you a few billion to make watches for $80.
Okay, you've never worked someplace that manufactured anything, that's for sure. Moreover, you have clearly watched way too many pompous Jon Ive videos, where he tries to make common industrial methods sound magical.
There's nothing unique about the way the Apple Watch case is manufactured. Its case is stamped out from rolled ingots, milled and polished the same way as millions of other Chinese made watches, and probably even in the same factories.
Plenty of watch band factories around too. Even the OLED is nothing special, unlike the round ones that others used.
Now, the custom linear actuator looks like it could've taken a few dozen thousand dollars to figure out and give to a couple of Chinese factories to make. But the real investment would've been in designing the S1 chip layout to give to a fab. That might actually take a million or more in internal funny money.
All in all, not very much money at all would be needed to create the parts and find factories to do the manufacturing. Heck, that's why cheap clones hit the Chinese market so quickly.
I think the real cost would be, as usual, in the time to create the software, not the hardware.
Per WIRED, Trump is one of those people: https://www.wired.com/2017/01/trump-android-phone-security-threat/
Whose creating straw man arguments?No surprise that nobody said that. You love creating strawman arguments
no need to be insulting, since you dont know of my background.
Sure as I said all you need to do is:
- design the chips
- go to a fab plant
- commit to a massive number of watches and your margin is $80.
It easy, you could even do it...right?
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What a deflection combined with a healthful dose of hyperbole. The contents of iMessage are encrypted. Only the number MAY, according to this finely written piece be exposed. Since we're speaking from a lack of knowledge anyone could claim google just hands over your personal stuff to law enforcement.
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Not trying to insult. It's just obvious that you're one of many who have a wild misconception about industrial and electronic design costs. Seriously, billions?
Heck, insiders have said that the entire original iPhone project only took $150 million, and that included 100 engineering, support staff, and programmers for a year and a half, plus custom test facilities. All done with a team with zero cellular experience.
The Watch, which apparently also got 100 people assigned to it over about the same time period, would be technically easy in comparison. No cellular involved nor anything else special or that new. Cases could be made in any quantity by existing factories, as could all the straps and the internal electronic parts.
And yeah, many have used much less money on Kickstarter to hire Chinese factories to build their devices.
Now, granted, maybe Ive spends billions making thousands of mockups
. He's lucky he had Jobs on his side. The places I've worked at would've fired him for being such a bad designer that he couldn't come up with the right design a lot sooner You'll likely never win a debate with the Apple spit and polish crowd . they just don't accept facts . it's all about their dreamland.
True that. But I'd rather trust my data to Apple than to China.
At least Cook has a modicum of principles and is willing to fight for our privacy.
I LOL'd out loud for the second time reading the posts in this thread.
If your friend does not know how to use an iPhone, don't blame it on the iPhone.
Take the photo, click it, share it to WhatsApp straight from Photos, and click who to send it to in WhatsApp. Done. Exactly the same steps you did.
Why your friend did it with all the steps you mentioned, I can only assume he's not very good with smartphones. Smartphone illiterate, I'd say, not just technically illiterate, as you said.
The non specific stuff would include little nice stuff like smoother scrolling and secure enclave on the processor, but they aren't something which affects the operations of the device per se. They just make the iPhone that much "nicer" for the consumer to use. Stuff which I have come to appreciate and am willing to pay a premium for.
Not to mention iOS only apps. For example, tweetbot is really nice for browsing twitter (better interface overall plus no ads). And all these apps are being actively supported by their developers.
So in a sense, what an Android phone can't do is provide me that cohesive and integrated user experience which only the Apple ecosystem can. That might not matter to some people, but it makes all the difference to me.
How Much would it cost to build your own fab plant to produce your $80 margin phones that sell for $800?Not trying to insult. It's just obvious that you're one of many who have a wild misconception about industrial and electronic design costs. Seriously, billions?
Heck, insiders have said that the entire original iPhone project only took $150 million, and that included 100 engineering, support staff, and programmers for a year and a half, plus custom test facilities. All done with a team with zero cellular experience.
The Watch, which apparently also got 100 people assigned to it over about the same time period, would be technically easy in comparison. No cellular involved nor anything else special or that new. Cases could be made in any quantity by existing factories, as could all the straps and the internal electronic parts.
And yeah, many have used much less money on Kickstarter to hire Chinese factories to build their devices.
Now, granted, maybe Ive spends billions making thousands of mockups
How much would the plant charge on a per unit basis for 100 units? For 10 million units?
Could you scrape together the $150 million to make a phone? You make it seem apples ripping us off, but the design, development and production of a phone is expensive. To get a low per unit price one has to commit to a predetermined number of units. Apple is entitled to recoup its costs and charge what the market will bear.
They're not mid-range, they are mid-priced. In a year they grew nearly 40%, whilst Apple went down 10%....another year.....
tis a silly statement, but while we are at it you could easily say that Apple make no profit from mid range or feature phones. It is the direction of travel that is important and the point is and the claim is that given growth in smartphones is basically stagnant, then the more of the these mid-price phones sold is one less Apple, Samsung phone sold. These Chinese brands are growing while the big players are declining. Nokia, RIM once made most of the profits from their phones......
They cannot be considered serious contenders until they sell their phones globally. I had to order in my daughter's phone because Xiaomi doesn't sell their products worldwide. You cannot even get the Huawei Honor 8 in Australia without ordering through a retailer that imports them from Hong Kong.
Another problem you will find is the GPS location settings are missing in some of these phones for the Western World. I had to download an app just to set the GPS to Sydney, Australia. (Xiaomi Mi Max)
So they have a few stumbling blocks to get sorted out first.
Another problem you will find is the GPS location settings are missing in some of these phones for the Western World. I had to download an app just to set the GPS to Sydney, Australia. (Xiaomi Mi Max)
So they have a few stumbling blocks to get sorted out first.
I hope you aren't saying the iPhone has the best scrolling experience. Considering you use Tapatalk you must know the irritating hitches when you scroll down a thread or even your notifications in that app. I find this same stutter on google apps and almost all news apps . In fact while Android also has these stutters they don't occur constantly
When I scroll down the notifications in tapatalk or even when I enter a thread and scroll down there are annoying pauses in between as it scrolls down. Like stutters. Give a quick swipe down anywhere in the app and look at the animation as it scrolls down
10.3 beta 1 is pretty much flawless.
"For now" applies to everything in life.
Ah, I see it. Never thought much of it in the past, as I assumed it was part of inertial scrolling.
Apparently it isn't as per above post
Didn't used to apply when Jobs was around. Almost a certainty something revolutionary was coming around every turn
It's not rocket science that Apple sales will stagnate if the keep on slapping the word "pro" to everything only to justify a price bump..
My very first smartphone was a Huawei Ascend. I still have it, it still works.
If they are still making devices that hold up well like that, I can see them doing well in the market.
If they are still making devices that hold up well like that, I can see them doing well in the market.