Looks like an iphone -- clearly just another knockoff, right down to the raised & rounded screen edges.
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Huawei Continues to Catch Apple, But Still Fighting to Gain Popularity in United States
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The phrase "Huawei Continues to Catch Apple" in the headline bothers my sense of logic and language. Presumably means they have caught Apple and have done it repeatedly. Caught Apple how? With a net? Caught Apple playing in their yard again? Caught Apple jaywalking? It couldn't be intended to mean that they've caught up to Apple in sales - the chart shows them with only two-thirds the shipment volume. I guess "Huawei Still Substantially Behind Apple But Catching Up" doesn't sound as good.
They do that with services, too. And intellectual property as well. My husband used to work at a company that had to devote considerable resources to fighting the theft and repackaging of their data. To add insult to injury, the person or company did a craptastic job with their rip-offs, too, but dense or legitimately confused customers would call the legit company to complain about the knockoff they purchased!
But in the case of a lot of Huawei phones, they aren't actually that copycat once you get used to them and know what you're looking at.
An Apple user is going to look at them and automatically dismiss them as iPhone rip-offs but those of us who either switched to Android or use both and keep up with product releases can't help but see huge differences and would not likely confuse the two. The P10, for example, comes in a variety of finishes and colors and has an attractive dual lens camera that's flush with the body that Apple would do well to emulate for improved aesthetics. It however also completely lacks an oleophobic coating on the display, which had one otherwise enthusiastic reviewer advising against buying it.
The Mate 9 is a nice device for purchasers on a tight budget. The camera is not so good, though. These are not going to compete with iPhones or Galaxy phones without either raising quality and prices or taking intentional losses on improved quality to fight for market share.
The Honor series has a bit of a devoted following, last time I looked. I've read Huawei heavily marketed it toward millennials and some of them have responded well to this pitch. I think Honor is the branding in the US that they are looking to put an attractive face on. They offer an acceptable balance between features, quality and price for the young and budget constrained.
People have been saying this since the iPhone came out! There were cheap phones 10 years ago and there are cheap phones now. The top tier samsung is just a little less than the iPhone and its a very nice phone but its still android and its not good enough..for me and evidently millions of others.
That's pretty good considering the P10 has dual cameras that are f/2.2 and f/1.9. But I have to wonder how big the image sensors are, and the overall image quality when compared to the iPhone? For me personally the bump is a design annoyance, but since I always use a case anyway because I have a toddler and baby with grabby hands, it's something that I easily forget about.Yeah…iPhone 6/6s/7.
Except that…Huawei seems to have been able to manage getting the camera FLUSH in the rear.
Not something it seems Apple can or is willing to do. Which makes these iPhones (of which I own the 6s+) still so GD fugly to me.
However, I'd take a camera bump over having an ugly logo on the front and fingerprint scanner on the back. I keep hoping those rear Touch ID rumors are bogus…blah!
"Designed by Apple in California by Engineers from China"
The photo used in this MR news thread is actually for the P10 Lite. There are three models. P10, P10 Plus and the P10 Lite.
Both the P10 and the P10 Plus have actual home buttons. The logo is on the back.
I don't know much about phone cameras, just that more megapixels is a good thing. However, both the P10 and the P10 Plus use dual Leica cameras and are 20MP (I guess that's good?).
Anyway, the bump on the iPhone since the 6 has annoyed me and as I DON'T use cases (ever) it has remained a consistant irritant for me.
We do have kids as well, both older now, but they learned boundaries early. Not having a case has never been a problem.
They make gazillion different phones and somehow they all turn out looking the same.
http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei-phones-58.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei-phones-58.php
Yeah, the toddler is pretty good now. Still a learning curve, and the baby doesn't know. They also tend to knock things off accidentally. I also have a workshop now at my new house, so it's good to have a case on my phone when I'm setting it down out there working on stuff.
As for the MP myth, I'm a photographer as part of my job doing web design and development (have a photo minor) and megapixels aren't everything. Optical sharpness plays a role. Pixel pitch plays a role—especially in poorer quality sensors. This is why mirrorless and dSLRs generally take better photos. They have larger sensors that are less noisy, especially in low-light conditions. Aperture also plays a role because the larger the aperture, the more light that can come in (smaller f-stop number), the less noise there is in an image. Aperture also affects the photo through subject isolation with background blur. The imaging processor and the algorithms it uses are also very important because it can calibrate the RAW data coming out of the sensor to have reduced noise, greater dynamic range, better color temperature accuracy, etc. I could see future smartphone cameras potentially offering more than the two rear sensors that we are seeing now. Combining multiple shots means you can cancel out sensor noise using algorithms to compare data between sensors. Faster smartphone processors will enable this all to happen in real-time, much like the iPhone 7 Plus can handle real-time depth of field effects. There's all kinds of cool stuff you can do with photography when you have really fast imaging processors, and Apple makes the fastest mobile processors out there, so they'll be well positioned to implement crazy new ideas going forward. There are so many factors at play, and resolution is only one of them. It's nice to be able to crop in on photos, but for most users who are just posting photos to social media or even viewing on a laptop, the resolution is wasted. It's better to work on low-light performance and noise reduction at this point. Furthermore, with multiple lower resolution cameras, you can blend pixels together to create a larger megapixel mosaic. So there could be future camera modes that take advantage of that, such as some higher end mirrorless (and maybe other types) of cameras already do today with multiple exposure OIS pixel shifting.
Whew that was a lot. SORRY! I'm passionate about photography and teaching others.
No worries!
Thanks for the enlightenment.I am much the same about graphic design (my profession). Unfortunately, I do fit in to that mass of people who mainly use their cell phone for mundane snaps. Most of the garbage in my camera roll in fact is actually just screen caps to post here or other places.
I'm mainly using my camera to take pictures of what's on the shelf at Walmart so my wife can see what she really wants me to get her.
But they're not.....
Nope, because you have to buy an iPhone to get iOS.
Android is the one that's in trouble of becoming just another smartphone because most Android phones are essentially the same. If you're not Samsung, you're dead in the water.
Huawei design looks better here while the iPhone looks like something sold in a back alley. Apple really need to up their game as they're falling behind the local Chinese brands. As for Huawei, they should focus on using their attractive flower logo and deemphasize using their brand name and stop making Android like iOS where it's more difficult to use requiring many more taps, 7 vs 2 to 3, to do the same thing otherwise their products are price competitive with consistent quality. I'd like to see an update to the $80 6" Ascend XT with Snapdragon 625.
Then you'll likely never buy anything!
This is not a strong argument though. Every manufacture has the same constraint, yet many of them came up with different designs. In this case, Huawei is just being lazy for maybe copy the iPhone on purpose to have that brand recognition effect.
Look at all the major upgrade from Apple for example. You can tell a big different in term of design and look from iPhone 3, 4, 5, 6. 7 isn't a major upgrade.
Look at others like LG, Sony, etc. Their phone look very different from iPhone.
On a more generic note, look at all the prestigious car brands like Ferraris, Bugati, Aston, etc they all have the same constraint as Toyota and Honda, yet their designs look vastly different from everyone else. Each one is a unique piece of art.
Even with the "happy or not" qualifier, I'm not so sure it's a feeling of being "locked in."
For me, it's being stoked that my Apple iPhone, iPad, Watch, laptop and desktop work so well together in a seamless manner. iMessage, notifications, continuity, handoff, Music, ApplePay, etc working across all devices is a huge plus. It's something I depend on everyday. It's even the little stuff like my Watch automatically unlocking my iMac.
Some might call that "lock in," I call it outstanding integration, synergy and user experience, that fosters productivity/creativity. I would only feel locked in if other competing platforms had better better overall integrated user experiences, and leaving Apple would be much too difficult. So far I haven't seen that.
They will never make the profits like Apple. That's not what normally happens with consumer electronics. Rather Apple profits eventually will drop to the competitors level.
MacRumors said:
Dear Editors,
I think you accidentally a word there. If Huawei has not matched Apple in the metrics being used here, they have not caught Apple (note past-tense). Maybe you mean "Huawei Continues to Catch up to Apple..." to indicate this is an ongoing action that is not complete yet?
No. The fact some can't pronounce the name has no influence on sales.
Ever try using one...? Exactly. Huawai doesn't make a good phone. Those who can afford better phones, buy better phones.
Those who are willing to spend more on phones, will spend more on phones.
As for me, the "smart phone craze" is definitely over.
If it were not for LINE and GPS/maps, I would probably go back to a traditional flip phone.
Even so, if my aging Note 4 finally gives up the ghost, I probably buy I less expensive brand.
And yes, I feel kind of stupid now, to have spent 800$ or so, on a mobile phone.