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At the time of its release did the original iPhone cost more or less than other phones?

Hard to say. The original iPhone was $499, with no carrier subsidy. Most phones at the time were purchased under a 2-year contract carrier subsidy with some money upfront. I do remember paying around $200 or so upfront for the Samsung flip phone I had before the iPhone. I guess it depends on what the carrier was subsidizing the price for. With those numbers, the first iPhone probably wasn’t astronomically more expensive.
 
Of course they could, thave more pull than anyone in the industry. Fortunately for their customers though, they wouldn’t release junk like this. No reason to release a product that doesn’t bring any value.
No pull will help if the supplier (like Samsung) does not want to sell it to you. Why do you think it took so long for Apple to release smartphones with OLED screens? Sure, eventually Samsung will sell stuff to Apple but not before they get benefit from being an innovator.
 
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Based on your conclusion about this device it would be reasonable for me to assume you've seen a "closer high resolution photo" or you've seen it with your own eyes?

Actually no, that would not be reasonable. The screen is wavy, visibly. This means there is a material distortion that will cause an optical distortion. That is unless they have managed to alter the laws of physics.

I answered your question of why you don’t see a distortion head on the the video.
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What shadiness. I used to work for Cisco and we did all sorts of questionable contracts for different governments, will you avoid Cisco infrastructure?

Huawei literally steals intellectual property. Not the same thing.
 
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What shadiness. I used to work for Cisco and we did all sorts of questionable contracts for different governments, will you avoid Cisco infrastructure?

The "shadiness" is that Huawei is essentially an arm of the Chinese government/military. Not sure how Cisco really compares, since they're a publicly-traded corporation that presumably doesn't install spyware in their products to serve the US government.

Huawei also violated sanctions against Iran, North Korea, Syria and Venezuela in flagrant violation of international law.

Oh, and they regularly steal IP from American companies, including Apple.
 
I never understand this opinion. Apple, a multi billion dollar company employing some of the best engineers and designers in the world, couldn’t do something like this even if they wanted to!? Hahaha
Apple engineers are mostly of software variety. They also have decent circuit designers. Everything else - they buy. Also, keep in mind that Samsung has more employees than Google, Apple, and Microsoft combined. And that's not counting the fact that most Apple employees are in retail sales.
 
I imagine this type of thing would be welcome to those who would otherwise choose a comparable sized tablet. It's a device that, folded, is the size of a smart phone and then can be turned into a tablet if desired. I'm sure you'll understand once Apple releases such a product ;)
Well I won’t own one. Not a big enough tablet for me and seems like a lot of compromises when folded.
 
How, how ... do you think I need to buy this **** to know it sucks? The video speaks for itself. If you can’t deduce this I’m sorry but you a have a problem.
The only thing the video speaks to is how awful it was. As for the device in question reasonable people will want to see it in person, gain experience with it, or read reviews of people who have before reaching a conclusion. If this seems foreign to you recall I qualified my statement with "reasonable".
 
Na uh. How long do you want to go about this?

How long are you going to try to claim you’re not defending this crappy display?

OP didn’t complain it was distorted when viewed head on, you added that in an attempt to defend the distortion OP was complaining about.

OP: It’s distorted.

You: Well, I don’t see any distortion as long as I look at it head on.

Me: Stop trying to defend this crappy display by pointing out an edge case where it doesn’t look crappy. The display is distorted. You saying, “well, it doesn’t look distorted as long as you hold it just so” is a very poor, unconvincing defense of that crease-distorted screen.
 
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Apple engineers are mostly of software variety. They also have decent circuit designers. Everything else - they buy. Also, keep in mind that Samsung has more employees than Google, Apple, and Microsoft combined. And that's not counting the fact that most Apple employees are in retail sales.

Ok? So you’re saying Apple couldn’t develop things in house if they wanted to? I’m not saying they have the capability at this very moment, I’m just saying they could if they wanted. They’ve made the business decision NOT to do those things - on purpose. The implication of some earlier was that Apple is just wholly incapable as a corporation of innovating technologies for some reason or another (lack of ability, dumbness, etc?)
 
Me: Stop trying to defend this crappy display by pointing out an edge case where it doesn’t look crappy. The display is distorted. You saying, “well, it doesn’t look distorted as long as you hold it just so” is a very poor, unconvincing defense of that crease-distorted screen.

This made me think of antenna-gate and “you’re holding it wrong”
 
No pull will help if the supplier (like Samsung) does not want to sell it to you. Why do you think it took so long for Apple to release smartphones with OLED screens? Sure, eventually Samsung will sell stuff to Apple but not before they get benefit from being an innovator.

Samsung aren’t going to deny their biggest customer. It took Apple so long to introduce OLED phones because they had issues early on and weren’t up to quality. I’m not sure where Huawei got their screens, but they either found another supplier or bought them from Samsung. It would surprise me if they would be willing to sell screens to Huawei, their biggest competitor, but not to Apple. Again, Samsung is in no position to deny their largest customer. In the end, the tech just isn’t ready for prime time, as shown by these devices.
 
Samsung aren’t going to deny their biggest customer. It took Apple so long to introduce OLED phones because they had issues early on and weren’t up to quality. I’m not sure where Huawei got their screens, but they either found another supplier or bought them from Samsung. It would surprise me if they would be willing to sell screens to Huawei, their biggest competitor, but not to Apple. Again, Samsung is in no position to deny their largest customer. In the end, the tech just isn’t ready for prime time, as shown by these devices.


You are the most interested in these foldable devices....I see .......although you only post negative comments towards them.
 
The "shadiness" is that Huawei is essentially an arm of the Chinese government/military. Not sure how Cisco really compares, since they're a publicly-traded corporation that presumably doesn't install spyware in their products to serve the US government.

Huawei also violated sanctions against Iran, North Korea, Syria and Venezuela in flagrant violation of international law.

Oh, and they regularly steal IP from American companies, including Apple.

Most Americans are so naive. Can't blame them for the US mass media is hyper patriotic (just like it is everywhere, admittedly). Here are a few interesting facts for you:

Snowden: The NSA planted backdoors in Cisco products
NSA Spied on Chinese Government and Networking Firm (Huawei)

So, ironically we do not have any evidence of Huawei spying on anyone but we do have evidence of USA spying on Huawei.
 
Samsung aren’t going to deny their biggest customer. It took Apple so long to introduce OLED phones because they had issues early on and weren’t up to quality. I’m not sure where Huawei got their screens, but they either found another supplier or bought them from Samsung. It would surprise me if they would be willing to sell screens to Huawei, their biggest competitor, but not to Apple. Again, Samsung is in no position to deny their largest customer. In the end, the tech just isn’t ready for prime time, as shown by these devices.

Exactly. Samsung exists to make money and they’re going to make a hell of a lot more money selling displays to Apple than attempting to steal market share from help by luring people to Samsung phones. Many will never leave Apple and Apple products aren’t just about specs (most consumers don’t care about specs) but the Apple ecosystem. Samsung knows they can’t steal every customer, not even close.
 
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$2600 folding phones? This has just become a ****ing clownshow now at this point.

Let's not forget, this is a glorified, junky flip phone that everyone here has absolutely hated on for the past decade.

To put the utter lunacy in perspective, I'll take a high end stock configuration 15" Macbook Pro for about this price.
Flip phone? The Consumer Cellular subscribers (they love their flips) must be drooling over this glorious technological piece of toast phone. :D
 
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Most Americans are so naive. Can't blame them for the US mass media is hyper patriotic (just like it is everywhere, admittedly). Here are a few interesting facts for you:

Snowden: The NSA planted backdoors in Cisco products
NSA Spied on Chinese Government and Networking Firm (Huawei)

So, ironically we do not have any evidence of Huawei spying on anyone but we do have evidence of USA spying on Huawei.

Huawei blatantly steals IP and is controlled by an authoritarian government that puts its own citizens into labor camps and executes political dissidents. I don’t really need to know much more. I know the US isn’t perfect either, but I’ll take it over China. (I’m not anti China, but their government is a constant human rights abuser.)
 
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You are the most interested in these foldable devices....I see .......although you only post negative comments towards them.

I’ve simply been responding to those that quote me. The concept of these devices is exciting for anyone who is a fan of tech. Unfortunately, the products released this week have too many compromises and don’t bring any value to customers. They were rushed because they are desperate for something new.
 
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The only thing the video speaks to is how awful it was. As for the device in question reasonable people will want to see it in person, gain experience with it, or read reviews of people who have before reaching a conclusion. If this seems foreign to you recall I qualified my statement with "reasonable".

And I can see visible screen surface distortion in the “awful” video, which tells me the distortion is quite severe.
 
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