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Huawei's Efforts to Steal Apple Trade Secrets Include Employee Bonus Program and Other Dubious Tactics
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I'd love to see a pie chart of social media activity from the following
1) Russian bots
2) Chinese bots
3) actual Americans
Well, the thing is. The West relies almost entirely on China for the manufacturing of all the goods they buy. No where else can build so much so well for so little cost. And that’s a fact.
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i think we should apply the industry standard here, whether this type of practice is common place in the industry, and thn only after that, we should proceed to rule out if huawei is acting out of the industry standard, or is this another western attack/singling out a foreign company.
That sounds like nonsense. And yet I've noticed some odd posts myself. Regardless, others companies are surely doing this and haven't been caught yet. Governments do this.
But all that aside, it sounds like the Justice Department has a case they want to move forward with. Not a case about other people also doing it, but a specific case against Huawei. All the posts here trying to drag the conversation away from those facts aren't going to do much about that. They'll still go forward with what sounds like an interesting case and I look forward to hearing the outcome.
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Why? You can only punish Huawei for breaking laws if nobody else is breaking laws?
Does that same logic apply to other crimes? Murder?
Yeah, Apple protects your privacy so much that they work together with the NSA regarding the surveillance of U.S.-citizens.
Such utter double-standard nonsense. Apple sucks because they didn’t “invent product categories.” But Huawei is “a leader” because they had two cameras and used OLED?
This is a ridiculous argument.
what? as far as the law goes, constitutionally speaking, there is no crime when company x go snooping around company y supply line.
No they don’t.
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Of course there is. Start with fraud for these false-pretense things they’re doing. Industrial espionage. Etc.
Ah, multiple propaganda techniques at once.
1) whataboutism: why is this so bad since others do the same thing?
2) goalpost conflation: fraudulently set up meetings and try to get people to break contractual duties of confidentiality is “finding out what the competition is doing,” and therefore no worse than simply looking at the product once it comes out and copying it that way, or looking at publicly-available information and copying it.
Unfortunately both these lines of argument are logical nonsense.
While we all understand that this stuff happens across the industry, that doesn't mean we have to support it. If intellectual property is no longer protected, it devalues any sort of innovation. Kids may take the easy way out and say, this happens, let's move on. Adults that need to run a business won't.
I can’t do on a tablet what is possible on a notebook with demountable touchscreen aka tablet = 2 in 1.
Even the iPad Pro with keyboard attached can’t do what the above can do. Meaning: real work. Although the hardware of the iPad Pro is in theory capable doing that kind of stuff, it’s the toy named iOS holding it back.
That’s why the surface are getting very popular. So yes, notebooks are evolving, just not the notebooks Apple is delivering. Unless we get something of a hybrid between iOS and MacOS, iOS stays a phone os incapable of doing serious work.
It’s great as a media viewer, surfing the Internet, checking mail and doing the light work. But it’s no way a Pro device.
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Didn’t the saying: “good artist copy, great artist steal” come from Apple?
Since huawei is the darling of all the android fanboi sites, does that mean they're going to be implicated in #chinesecollusion?
I can’t do on a tablet what is possible on a notebook with demountable touchscreen aka tablet = 2 in 1.
Even the iPad Pro with keyboard attached can’t do what the above can do. Meaning: real work. Although the hardware of the iPad Pro is in theory capable doing that kind of stuff, it’s the toy named iOS holding it back.
That’s why the surface are getting very popular. So yes, notebooks are evolving, just not the notebooks Apple is delivering. Unless we get something of a hybrid between iOS and MacOS, iOS stays a phone os incapable of doing serious work.
It’s great as a media viewer, surfing the Internet, checking mail and doing the light work. But it’s no way a Pro device.
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Didn’t the saying: “good artist copy, great artist steal” come from Apple?
No, it actually came from Pablo Picasso.
Well that can be considered research can’t it. Research into conpetitor products.But, I read posts from Huawei fans here about how much they spend on research and how they have hundreds of thousands of patents. That their products are the best in the PC world.
Why would they "need" to steal from the USA firms?
You haven’t watched the link I guess. Apple is making 64% of profits on an iPhone. Talking about stealing...
Have you ever used an highend phone from another brand? You’ll notice that most high end phones are quality built these days and compared to the iPhone costing a fraction of the price.
