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AFAIK VGA is as high on PQ as component or HDMI.
I've lost track of which of the three is HDCP compliant though. I think component is the only one that isn't...?
Doesn't affect me, I don't have the 360 HD-DVD addon nor do I plan on getting a hi def DVD format anytime soon.


VGA is just as high true, sometimes better than component even.
HDMI is the 'only' one that can carry HDCP as it is digital, though it makes zero difference for the HD-DVD player as the films unlike BluRay do not have HDCP on them and neither are they region protected.
 
PS3 has better hardware..but xbox 360 has so much better games

i went with the 360 and I'm glad I did.
 
rumor is $50 dollar drop in august, makes it tempting but im not sure if id want a machine that runs hot, scratches disks and may crap out in a few months. The only games I really want on 360 are Forza and Call of Juarez (im not into FPS games) and test drive on 360 is the best version out.

im going to Japan in a week, can i use a system bought there here in the states?
 
PS3 is a better deal if you are getting a hdtv and want to use it to upconvert you old dvd and play blu-ray. for just games get a 360
 
No.

And my 360's never scratched a single disc. Does it run hot? Sure. (Mine RoD'd even and had to be repaired, at $0 cost to me.) From what I've been told by several people, the Ps3 is not immune from running hot either. As for crapping out, give me a break. If it's going to crap out, it will do it within the warranty period, meaning you pay $0.

You seem to have plenty of stock into Sony consoles working 99.9% of the time. Good luck with that. :D People who have had to use their PSX upside down or on it's side, and people (like myself) who have had Ps2s stop reading blue discs, DVD discs, or both (me)...would beg to differ.
 
I don't have a PS3, but at $499 and 5 free BD movies, you should pick one up.

It's more the games instead of the system. If you like Sony games, you can't go wrong with the future-proof PS3...
 
I tend to be a little bit of a Sony person, as a PS2 owner, but I'll try to offer a more or less balanced look here:

Games: If your choice is about current gaming, or about current online capabilities, then your only option is the Xbox 360. If those two really are your primary concerns (which they are for many people), go with the 360. Done.

Minor note with online play: If your friends all don't own the 360, the online play advantage might not exist for any system. This depends, of course, on your situation.

High def player: If your choice is, to a large degree, to buy an HD player in addition to a gaming console, it's the PS3, hands down. HD-DVD will be around for a while, but it's dying off, even now. IMHO, PS3, no contest.

As you're buying from Costco, repair isn't really an issue. Disc scratching is scary, but not quite epidemic level yet. Worth caution? Yes. Worth not buying a good system over? No.

Me personally, I know I'm going to have to buy a blu-ray player eventually, so I definitely will buy the PS3 at some point. I'll only buy the 360 if I decide I really need to play a game on the 360. Right now, sad to say, the only game that really excites me on 360 isn't Gears or Halo, but Dead Rising. Xbox has the advantage of some great exclusives, but they (mostly) don't interest me.

So my advice is--take a look at your situation, take a look at what exclusive games interest you, and make a decision from there. There's not going to be a "winner" per se in the console war, so the most hardcore of hardcore gamers are stuck with the worst possible option: buying all three. Just choose the one that best suits you, as we won't see a major industry leader this generation.
 
No.

And my 360's never scratched a single disc. Does it run hot? Sure. (Mine RoD'd even and had to be repaired, at $0 cost to me.) From what I've been told by several people, the Ps3 is not immune from running hot either. As for crapping out, give me a break. If it's going to crap out, it will do it within the warranty period, meaning you pay $0.

You seem to have plenty of stock into Sony consoles working 99.9% of the time. Good luck with that. :D People who have had to use their PSX upside down or on it's side, and people (like myself) who have had Ps2s stop reading blue discs, DVD discs, or both (me)...would beg to differ.

my ps2 did the same thing, thankfully the guy at best buy warned me to keep mine standing up when i bought it otherwise my laser would have burned out sooner. and the only reason it burned out is because i left a game of madden on over the weekend, i only paid to ship it there and have been sailing smoothly ever since, they even gave me a new one year warranty.
 
We have both PS3 and 360 at my household...360 is better hands down. Mainly because of the interface, everything is so nicely integrated. Xbox Live is great, the marketplace feature, etc. Not to mention it has better games.

I see the 360 as a serious console and the PS3 as a overpriced novelty act.
 
Larger HDD(120GB)
HDMI 1.2(some features, not all)
thats about it.....

;)


You forgot...it's black! Remember, Microsoft has to copy everything Apple does...and if Apple can charge extra for a black-colored MacBook, so can Microsoft!
 
You forgot...it's black! Remember, Microsoft has to copy everything Apple does...and if Apple can charge extra for a black-colored MacBook, so can Microsoft!

rofl...how could I forget such a needed addition to any hardware....(black) ;)
Now if Nintendo would just make a black Wii! :D
 
We have both PS3 and 360 at my household...360 is better hands down. Mainly because of the interface, everything is so nicely integrated. Xbox Live is great, the marketplace feature, etc. Not to mention it has better games.

I see the 360 as a serious console and the PS3 as a overpriced novelty act.

Can't agree more. I didn't like the 360 at first, just as I did with the original Xbox - it grew on me. And being given one for free aint bad :D . Luckily our PS3 was a Japan import so we didn't pay the ludicrous £430, we kept it since there was just no demand on eBay. Keep it down at my cousins (since he's got a proper home cinema) and haven't played it for a good while. I'm hoping for an upgrade to the controller to make it playable, I just gave up after the games were tripe.
 
so if i buy one in japan (assuming its cheaper than america) i can use games from other countries (america)? i know ive asked this before but want to be sure before i spend so much yen.
 
yes you can buy a JPN PS3 and play US PS3 games without issue
(as stated this "region free" status does nto include DVD's, and I am unsure about PS1/PS2 games)

Though you may want to check prices......US PS3's may be as cheap if not cheaper.
(after exchange rates and import fees)


Places like Circuit City are offering PS3 with two games and two controllers for $499.99!
(but good luck finding a store with stock - as PS3 is currently outselling 360 in all regions)

Guess the price drop and upcoming games are really turning things around for Sony.
 
yes you can buy a JPN PS3 and play US PS3 games without issue
(as stated this "region free" status does nto include DVD's, and I am unsure about PS1/PS2 games)

Though you may want to check prices......US PS3's may be as cheap if not cheaper.
(after exchange rates and import fees)


Places like Circuit City are offering PS3 with two games and two controllers for $499.99!
(but good luck finding a store with stock - as PS3 is currently outselling 360 in all regions)

Guess the price drop and upcoming games are really turning things around for Sony.

really i always hhear about such deals, but i always seem to miss them, what games can i get or is there a link?

thanks for all the help guys.
 
not seeing anything at the moment, but I'll keep you posted - as soon as I hear of another.
Althoguh where you are from makes a difference. PM me or post here(if you don't mind)
 
I'd say premium and some games. I know it seems like you need the 120 and all that, but you don't. As others have said the vga or other cables will give you what you need as far as looks go. Connect 360 for your mac and you don't need to store music and what not...plus the way the 360 is set up for that you don't really want to store too much on the harddrive anyways...such a pain.

Then you can get a bundle and some extra games for the price of the Elite. Much, much better use of money. And if I'm remembering correctly and you're planning on using a 32 inch HDTV you'll be hard pressed to tell the diff between 720 and 1080...I've really tried and its not really there...particularly when you're blazing through levels at 90 to nothing...don't really have time to stop and look :)

Paul
 
PS3. I'll make this easy.

The price.
Only $20 more.
5 free BluRay Movies

The hardware.
BluRay Player, WiFi, Card Reader and support for USB peripherals.
Excellent cooling system... and well, every 360 is defective.

The games.
Lair, LittleBitPlanet, Gran Turismo 5, Metral Gear Solid 4, Killzone 2 as Exclusives.
Not to mention full PS2/PS1 backwards compatibility and free online services.
 
Also the folks quoting exclusives for PS3 should do the 360 ones too because there are some nice ones there....but I still find it a stupid arguement because we don't know if these games will actually be good or not. Just going on what we're hoping...and no one should buy a system on hope when there is proven goods out already.

If both were just being released then you'd just have to pick based on track record of developers, etc...but since the 360 has so much time out you don't.

Every 360 is not defective...particularly ones that have come out recently since the announcement. I don't think they'll continue releasing them that way now that they've owned up to it. They've been changing the DVD drives and other parts for months now.

Paul
 
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