Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
How do you figure? I've had my 360 for quite some time and it's never given me any trouble.

It's official - http://www.fastsilicon.com/latest-news/microsoft-admits-all-xbox360s-are-defective.html?Itemid=60, from Microsoft themselves.

Go for the 360 and get one of these if your worried about it over heating

http://www.consoleplus.co.uk/produc...x-360&osCsid=462a003fce73b9fe4727c1ed9e37fac7

Thats my plan

They're not very good. Personally with Microsofts new policy I'd avoid them altogether. If the 360 gets the Red Ring then MS will replace it free of charge. If you end up with scorch marks or other problems attributed to one of them fans then you're up s*** creek.
 
They're not very good. Personally with Microsofts new policy I'd avoid them altogether. If the 360 gets the Red Ring then MS will replace it free of charge. If you end up with scorch marks or other problems attributed to one of them fans then you're up s*** creek.

I read somewhere that Microsoft has updated the heatsinks on the 360's and is using new cooler processors now. Thanks for the heads up on the fans thing, do you know whether Microsoft has admitted to the fault in the UK, or is this just America?
 
I read somewhere that Microsoft has updated the heatsinks on the 360's and is using new cooler processors now. Thanks for the heads up on the fans thing, do you know whether Microsoft has admitted to the fault in the UK, or is this just America?

Microsoft is definitely not using cooler processors yet. The 65nm chips aren't coming anytime soon, though the 1.1 billion hit they're taking will hasten them to market.
 
7 reasons why the elite isn't elite:
1.Three Xbox 360s is one too many
2.It's still cheaper than the PS3(Cheap is good but to consider something elite it should be the priciest thing on the market)
3.No wireless networking built in
4.The current 10 million 360 owners are getting the shaft(its aimed at HD enthusiasts who still don't own a 360
5.It's still really loud
6. no HD-DVD bundle
7.The machine isn't intended for gamers

(i quoted this out of an old game pro i have):)

but i'd definitely say you buy a ps3 since you already have the sony line. that way the ps3's game library isn't as depressing since you can play your ps2 games as well.:D
 
360

1) price drop coming
2) halo 3

if you do want a ps3 get it now before the 60 gigs are sold out.
 
360

1) price drop coming
2) halo 3

if you do want a ps3 get it now before the 60 gigs are sold out.

The price drop could just me M$'s way of clearing out Premium models so that the "elites" can take its place. Which is after all the plan. Furthermore i don't think the price drop is even confirmed by M$.

Halo 3.. woo hoo more space marines!!

PS3 is the best overall value for the money. Lair launches in 2 weeks, Heavenly Sword in Sept, along with Warhawk in Sept. FFXIII, MGS4, Gran Tourismo 5 (The best racing sim out there), Ractchet & Clank, Uncharted, the upcoming R* PS3 exclusive title, the list goes on and on...

Ed
 
The price drop could just me M$'s way of clearing out Premium models so that the "elites" can take its place. Which is after all the plan. Furthermore i don't think the price drop is even confirmed by M$.

I don't think they'll get rid of the premium.

They wil drop the core, make the premium the core model and make the elite the premium.
 
The HDD-less 360 is on it's way out. What with drives costing pennies these days and games requiring them for caching - I think the Cores on life support now.
Heck Halo 2 had texture problems and that was with HDD caching. Internal storage all round - please.
 
just the fact that some of your friends have it is a reason to get the 360. The online is far superior to the ps3's. also if you get the ps3 youll regret waiting a month longer or not even getting a great game that came out for the 360.
 
Don't spread ridiculous FUD.

BS. Not in the 80 gig which will end up having pathetic backwards compatibility due to the fact that they removed the EE chips and therefore BC in the 80g is software based.

How many 80GB PS3s can you buy in the US right now?

That's right, you can't. PS3 currently has full backwards compatibility.

And Microsoft has said in a press release that every 360 has a design flaw that can cause it to overheat.
 
PS3 won't ever lose any backwards compatibility either. (unles of coure removig GS causes a game or two to not work)
EE was removed before EU/UK launch, and US/JPN are using software emulation for EE(even though we have the chip)

The idea was to always use 100% SW emulation, but Graphic Synthesizer uniqueness and time constraints forced them to put in the EE+GS at launch. They are slowing phasing out PS2 hardware to make the console cheaper, but that DOES NOT mean B/C is breaking.
 
I like to play Devils advocate. Get an 360 elite. This holiday season you can play : Bioshock, Halo 3, Eternal Sonata, Lost Odyssey, GTA 4 with exclusive content and Mass Effect. Those are all exclusive to the console. If you like multiplayer, Xbox live is the only way to go.

I have all 3 next-gen console. I do enjoy the ps3 but never actually played one online game with it. As far as the Wii goes, Thank god for RE4 because otherwise it would collect dust.
 
I like to play Devils advocate. Get an 360 elite. This holiday season you can play : Bioshock, Halo 3, Eternal Sonata, Lost Odyssey, GTA 4 with exclusive content and Mass Effect. Those are all exclusive to the console. If you like multiplayer, Xbox live is the only way to go.

I have all 3 next-gen console. I do enjoy the ps3 but never actually played one online game with it. As far as the Wii goes, Thank god for RE4 because otherwise it would collect dust.

Don't forget Assassin's Creed :p
 
How many 80GB PS3s can you buy in the US right now?

That's right, you can't. PS3 currently has full backwards compatibility.

Nice way to spin that.
Keep that in mind once the 80giggers are released to retail and be sure to edit that comment. :p

PS3 won't ever lose any backwards compatibility either. (unles of coure removig GS causes a game or two to not work)
EE was removed before EU/UK launch, and US/JPN are using software emulation for EE(even though we have the chip)

http://ps3.joystiq.com/2007/07/09/80gb-ps3-has-limited-backwards-compatibility/
we can confirm is that the new 80GB PS3 will have limited backwards compatibility. Clearly stated on the box, the system has apparently gotten rid of the chip previously used for US backwards compatibility and switched over to the European software version.

The box states: "This product has limited backwards compatibility with PlayStation and PlayStation 2 format software ... visit www.us.playstation.com for system software update." We're attempting to find out if the new 60GB versions rolling off the assembly line will also switch over to the BC software. So, if you're really into your old PS and PS2 games, might want to check and see if they are compatible with the software or get a system currently available before the switch.
 
I know this isn't the same but...

Instead of doing built in Backwards Compatibility, why not give everybody who buys a PS3 a free PS2?

;)
 
I know this isn't the same but...

Instead of doing built in Backwards Compatibility, why not give everybody who buys a PS3 a free PS2?

;)

Cause the PS2 was unreliable.

To the OP, get a Premium 360, the elite isn't worth it.
Almost everyone with a PS3 touts how it has all these great games coming, but the 360 already has great games with more coming.
I've said this a lot before but,
Halo 3>>>>Killzone 2
Forza 2=GT5
And bioshock (also on PC i know) is going to be great
And any other exclusive that Sony might release will probably be copied by Microsoft ;)
And honestly, who actually uses the card readers?
the 360 can deal with USB devices just as well as the PS3.
 
Z2D, that just means its more in line with the European model.
(most games work, but there are still issues with some emulation)

HOWEVER - its already been "lost."

Are you trying to tell me it will have less B/C than the European model?
The ONLY time the PS3 may "lose" more B/C is when/if they decide to finally remove the GS chip.
 
Cause the PS2 was unreliable.

To the OP, get a Premium 360, the elite isn't worth it.
Almost everyone with a PS3 touts how it has all these great games coming, but the 360 already has great games with more coming.
I've said this a lot before but,
Halo 3>>>>Killzone 2
Forza 2=GT5
And bioshock (also on PC i know) is going to be great
And any other exclusive that Sony might release will probably be copied by Microsoft ;)
And honestly, who actually uses the card readers?
the 360 can deal with USB devices just as well as the PS3.

How about the 360 hardware problems. I almost picked up a 360 today but did not due to the fear of hardware failure. the best buy employee told me he was on his 9th 360. I hate to buy hardware that is almost certain to fail even if I want to play halo 3
 
How about the 360 hardware problems. I almost picked up a 360 today but did not due to the fear of hardware failure. the best buy employee told me he was on his 9th 360. I hate to buy hardware that is almost certain to fail even if I want to play halo 3

I'm not too worried, especially since all 360s are covered for 3 years for hardware failure
 
How about the 360 hardware problems. I almost picked up a 360 today but did not due to the fear of hardware failure. the best buy employee told me he was on his 9th 360. I hate to buy hardware that is almost certain to fail even if I want to play halo 3


You take advice from a BB employe ? LOL ! I am still using my day 1 X360 premium and it never experienced the 3 red light. Doesn't mean that I won't eventualy but so far so good. I wouldn't worry too much
 
elite vs pro

is the elite worth the extra price?

does it have the same hardware problems?
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.