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Weird to show a crooked photo to argue that the camera bump is crooked.

Anyway, if it really is crooked, just ask for a new phone. Not more difficult than that.
 
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I bought a second-hand iPhone 12 mini that I found out later had a third party camera unit installed. The only reason i noticed was because it was slightly l rotated. I don't think I'd want that on a new iPhone
 
I'm not sure if it's crooked, but regardless, this picture really made me realize how ugly the camera bump is. I mean, holy crap, it's just hideous. I know it's supposedly a necessary evil for the incredible quality of the iPhone Pro cameras, but there has to be a better way to integrate the cameras into the design. What about a wedge shaped iPhone, with the larger end housing the cameras? At some point, we're going to need a new design that isn't just a rectangle with rounded edges.
 
But you’re right, how dare Apple try to be profitable while all those other corporations are being so altruistic!

What do you think Leica's market share in the digital camera market is? Do you think that a digital monochrome rangefinder attracts more or fewer buyers?

It doesn't matter. What matters is that when you want uncompromised quality, you can turn to Leica and be assured to have no troubles but just results.

Apple used to be the computer when quality and results was all that mattered. Apple died in 2009. All that's left are irreverent children playing with their late grandfather's toys.

Oh, and Leica have been going for over one-and-a-half centuries. I guess it has something to do with not following the "market research".
 
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What do you think Leica's market share in the digital camera market is? Do you think that a digital monochrome rangefinder attracts more or fewer buyers?

It doesn't matter. What matters is that when you want uncompromised quality, you can turn to Leica and be assured to have no troubles but just results.

Apple used to be the computer when quality and results was all that mattered. Apple died in 2009. All that's left are irreverent children playing with their late grandfather's toys.

Oh, and Leica have been going for over one-and-a-half centuries. I guess it has something to do with not following the "market research".
I always wondered why Apple just didn’t go to Leica to fix the flare problem but I guess that is asking too much.


BTW: I’m a big Zeiss fan and my glasses have Zeiss lenses in them. Currently I’m rock’in Zeiss GT lenses with two little Zeiss holograms on each lens. I shoot everything through these lenses, so I need to see proper colour and all that as you know. Only pain is that they come from Germany only now…
 
Bought a new silver 14 Pro today to replace my 13 Pro.

Got it home, opened it up, looked it over, everything looked good, and then I saw it and couldn't possibly believe it and now it can't be unseen...the entire freaking camera bump square is crooked counterclockwise by 1-2 degrees. I looked at it in all lights, gave all consideration and analysis to the possibilities of shadows or even somehow the entire back glass panel being crooked in the stainless frame (which it is not, it fits perfectly within the stainless steel frame all around), and nope - the entire camera bump square is actually molded into the entire back glass panel slightly crooked. I don't even understand how this is possible given the tight tolerances of the cameras that still manage to protrude through the holes which are now slightly not where they should be, but here we are.

Look closely - above the camera bump, the distance between the bump and the top edge of the back glass is noticeably larger towards the left side compared to the right side. And correspondingly, if you look to the left of the camera bump, the distance between the bump and the leftmost edge of the back glass is noticeably larger towards the bottom compared to the top. The camera bump is literally crooked, like it's been rotated counterclockwise 1-2 degrees.

Confirmed 13 Pro is absolutely not like this, this crookedness is now all I see on an otherwise flawless 14 Pro.

Anyone else? Look closely. I assure you, it is absolutely not the light or shadows playing tricks - if it were, I could reverse the optical illusion by turning the phone differently in the light. No matter how you look at it, in all conditions, it's crooked in the same way:

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It’s all perspective. Just return it to apple god damn it
 
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Looking at mine, I’m pretty sure it’s an illusion from the translucent curved part of the thicker plateau. The way light passes through the curved part messes with the cues we perceive to see if two lines are parallel.
 
I always wondered why Apple just didn’t go to Leica to fix the flare problem but I guess that is asking too much.

Isn't flare just a matter of proper coating? At any rate, I can't imagine relying on a phone as a camera. Next I'll need my fridge as a gaming screen.

Who isn't a Zeiss fan? Personally, I never feel like my metal Canon FL lenses are inadequate for 135 film, even with good old Portra. I may even be obsessed with some Tamron Adaptall's zooms...
 
Guys!!! iPhones contain countless components. A thousand things would all have to coincide for something like this to be real. All three sensors, all three lenses, all three sapphire covers, the microphone, the LiDAR sensor and the LED flash would all have to be perfectly misaligned inside and out.
I thought this forum was supposed to be for people who were interested in technology?
 
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What do you think Leica's market share in the digital camera market is? Do you think that a digital monochrome rangefinder attracts more or fewer buyers?

It doesn't matter. What matters is that when you want uncompromised quality, you can turn to Leica and be assured to have no troubles but just results.
You must not frequent Leica forums. Leicas have occasional problems, too. Cameras locking up which require removal of the battery. Misaligned rangefinder mechanisms. Fraying Kevlar coverings on their Reporter series cameras. Strap lugs which pull out of the body. And more. They are consumer items like iPhones. Leica will take care of most problems, but you may be without your camera for a number of weeks or may be waiting a while for a firmware update.
 
holy ****, if it is a defect, return it it, dah! if you are all like what, is this a problem like this is not a problem, blhhhhhhhhhhhh
 
You must not frequent Leica forums. Leicas have occasional problems, too.

Oh of course every product has their bugs but Leica hasn’t gone in the way of Canon and Nikon. You can most certainly get top-level professional cameras from all three but the Jap brands have to offer the cameras that capture more noise than light to try to compete for that market space too. (I’m referring to those pocket point-and-shoots that insurance adjusters carry.)

When shopping for a PC, I consider NO other brand than Apple. You are either a Mac or you are not. There is no substitute and I’ll laugh if somebody mentions Linux on “IBM” hardware. The Windows machines have to offer the best they can along-side the junk that’s just going to end up under grandma’s bed and covered with years of cigarette ash and cat-hair because her grandkids wanted to make her a Facebook and she just wanted to watch Knots Landing in peace.

Apple simply doesn’t try to compete in the impulse CRAZY BLOWOUT SALE BUY ONE AND RECEIVE A MCFLURRY market.

They are, though, focused too heavily on profit now. That’s what happens when a passionate genius wills his baby to the biggest share-holder.
 
Bought a new silver 14 Pro today to replace my 13 Pro.

Got it home, opened it up, looked it over, everything looked good, and then I saw it and couldn't possibly believe it and now it can't be unseen...the entire freaking camera bump square is crooked counterclockwise by 1-2 degrees. I looked at it in all lights, gave all consideration and analysis to the possibilities of shadows or even somehow the entire back glass panel being crooked in the stainless frame (which it is not, it fits perfectly within the stainless steel frame all around), and nope - the entire camera bump square is actually molded into the entire back glass panel slightly crooked. I don't even understand how this is possible given the tight tolerances of the cameras that still manage to protrude through the holes which are now slightly not where they should be, but here we are.

Look closely - above the camera bump, the distance between the bump and the top edge of the back glass is noticeably larger towards the left side compared to the right side. And correspondingly, if you look to the left of the camera bump, the distance between the bump and the leftmost edge of the back glass is noticeably larger towards the bottom compared to the top. The camera bump is literally crooked, like it's been rotated counterclockwise 1-2 degrees.

Confirmed 13 Pro is absolutely not like this, this crookedness is now all I see on an otherwise flawless 14 Pro.

Anyone else? Look closely. I assure you, it is absolutely not the light or shadows playing tricks - if it were, I could reverse the optical illusion by turning the phone differently in the light. No matter how you look at it, in all conditions, it's crooked in the same way:

View attachment 2084178
You’ll know if it’s actually crooked if you put it into a case that fits tightly around the camera bump. If it fits perfectly, it’s not crooked, it would be an optical illusion.
 
Isn't flare just a matter of proper coating?
Flare is when a stray source of non image-forming light (such as the sun, just outside of the lens's field of view) hits the surface of a lens, then reflects internally on lens elements, then finally reaches the film, or a digital sensor. This interferes with the intended image, which is caused by light passing through those same elements directly from the subject.

High quality coatings don't eliminate flare. Lens hoods are actually much better at controlling flare, because they keep stray light from hitting the front elements of lenses.

Unless you're JJ Abrams, in which case you actually use a powerful light to create lens flare, hoods be damned!

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Oh of course every product has their bugs but Leica hasn’t gone in the way of Canon and Nikon. You can most certainly get top-level professional cameras from all three but the Jap brands have to offer the cameras that capture more noise than light to try to compete for that market space too. (I’m referring to those pocket point-and-shoots that insurance adjusters carry.)

When shopping for a PC, I consider NO other brand than Apple. You are either a Mac or you are not. There is no substitute and I’ll laugh if somebody mentions Linux on “IBM” hardware. The Windows machines have to offer the best they can along-side the junk that’s just going to end up under grandma’s bed and covered with years of cigarette ash and cat-hair because her grandkids wanted to make her a Facebook and she just wanted to watch Knots Landing in peace.

Apple simply doesn’t try to compete in the impulse CRAZY BLOWOUT SALE BUY ONE AND RECEIVE A MCFLURRY market.

They are, though, focused too heavily on profit now. That’s what happens when a passionate genius wills his baby to the biggest share-holder.
I use a Mac for my personal computer but when it comes to running engineering applications it is a disadvantage.
 
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Mine was crooked. I took it back to Apple.
They adjusted my glasses and made them a little crooked on my face. But my phone is now perfect.
 
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