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Omg this thread is getting rediculous. mosx we know you love vista and lie about it to gain support (no driver issues a month after release? Get real)

Please, if you hate mac go to a windows forum and play there.


To the OP you will LOVE your new Mac :) Let us know which one you get.
 
Riceaddict, why are you buying a macbook? If you're as uncertain as you seem to be from your posts, don't buy it. I am planning on buying one myself, but I have thoroughly informed myself of all the limitations the OS / hardware impose as opposed to my current OS's Vista and XP. Don't buy it if it does not fit the activities you intend of using the equipment for; you're advocating a lot for bluray, and Macs don't come with it, if it's going to be a problem for you, go ahead and buy a PC or else you'll end up in the exact same position mosx seems to be.

Also, I've bought two Vaio within the last few years, and none of them came with a Windows install disk. I had to manually go through and remove the bloatware that would have expired within 30 days anyways.

Also, maintaining your PC fast and clean is a VERY easy task for a 'power user' (like us), but note that the average user barely knows what defragmentation is. If you see it from this point of view, the Mac is much more user-friendly.

no offense but when have i ever advocated for blu-ray and complained that it wasn't available in a mac in this thread? i made one remark but, it was completely separate from the subject of this thread - and to be fair it was a response not a statement of how i feel about blu-ray and apple.

nobody said i was uncertain - reread the posts. i said i am still going to purchase a mac. there is nothing wrong with asking questions. this thread simply branched out and being a debate and informative thread and i merely capitalized on it to educate myself further since many knowledgeable individuals decided to come out from the woods. nothing wrong with that. ask and you shall receive - i got it in spades.

the more you ask and read...the more you know. whether it is fact or biased opinion is irrelevant to me - it helps me piece together what i can expect and what i shouldn't. knowledge is power - and you can always find it in the most unlikely of places and situations in this forum. i enjoy everyone who voices their own opinion - even if i agree or don't agree.

to be quite frank if i may though - i always find it quite interesting how apple (forgive me for saying but words escape me to think of another) fanboys are quick to defend anything negative or questionative about Apple products. my friend and i who works at a firm was saying that half the staff uses pcs and the other macs. he was discussing how they always felt like they had something to prove and almost a "superiority complex" and would always try to spark arguments with those using pcs. i'm honestly not trying to get at anything - but, i couldn't say much other than i witness it quite often as well.

when it really boils down to it - the os is only as capable as the user. you can have the latest and greatest just because you have the money, but that means nothing if you really don't utilize its potential. windows is a very capable os that i admit most average consumers WOULD have headaches with. it takes a bit of finesse to have everything working smoothly. most desktops/notebooks would be a chore for the average consumer to contend with as opposed to mac osx appearing chore free. but, for those willing to dust those nuances away - would reveal an abundance of tools waiting to be used.

microsoft isn't all bad...in fact they have done a lot right. i admit they messed up vista in the beginning which is the reason i didn't adopt it from the get go - however, now? haven't had any issues other than the fact i am wanting something different. the more i think about the days i worked on a mac - i wonder if my enjoyment on a mac would be significant in itself. i am taking a risk of selling a laptop and buying a mac based on this very notion:
my uncle has always worked on macs and is a graphic designer and owns a studio. he owns a huge assortment of macs and has the firm belief that for anything graphic related that working on an apple brand cannot be beat.

so i figure - i am wanting to get back into graphic designing as a side job and hobby and i don't particularly enjoy how my laptop has been for me...so why not sell it to someone who does want it (for almost exactly what i paid for) and buy a mac and try something different.

who knows - maybe i will despise it and realize my fondness of macs may have been diluted and go back to windows... or i may enjoy the product and become another consumer who puts the almighty dollar in apples already large bank account. at least i'm TRYING to be open minded - but, again...this is a forum and nothing wrong with asking questions a long the way right bro?
 
I have yet to see someone who isn't an Apple Apologist agree that OS X is prettier than Vista.

That's funny, because that's probably how you define Apple Apologists: "Oh, so you prefer the Mac OS X GUI? You must be an apologist, because I know Windows is better."

But who cares if you prefer Windows. Even some of my friends and family prefer Windows, and that's fine with me. (Most of them think Mac OS X is pretty, but that has never been a reason for them to switch. They tend to think of their computers as their enemies, which they're forced to use for work. So they actually don't want to like the OS they're using.)

Besides, people just get accustomed to doing certain things in a certain way (e.g., you using Windows' image viewer vs. me preferring Mac OS X's Quick Look), but that really doesn't mean one is better than the other. And arguing about certain aspects of Mac vs. Windows isn't helpful, either, IMHO, because people just have different priorities.

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Anyway, RiCEADDiCTBOY, I'm afraid neither your friends telling you how their Windows machines are better than your Mac nor us long-time Mac users telling you why our Macs work fine for us will help you in any way. At the end of the day, we all make our choices based on our personal requirements and experiences, just like mosx did. :)
 
This entire thread is mosx just repeating his own opinions, we get it. you hate mac, what I dont understand is if you hate it so much why have you brought 3 macbooks? I will admit when it comes to Apple, Id only ever purchase iPods or MB/MBP. Im not a fan of their desktops and the iPhone and everything else is a bit over-priced. But comparing a Dell notebook to an Apple notebook on specs alone is worthless, there is build quality, materials, weight, battery, the power cord, size of trackpad, keyboard, bluetooth etc to take into account. For me, ive never ever owned a windows notebook thats had a battery that can last longer than 2 hours, the trackpads are really really small and normally uncomfortable and they are heavy and feel plastic and flimsy.

While I agree with some of your comments, I think the majority of your "facts" are quite untrue.
 
To be pretty honest, mosx brings some good points. However, it all comes down to personal preference.
I wanted to be "feel" different when I bought my netbook loaded with linux. Well, turns out, it was nice to play around, but to get some "real" work done (read. answer job ads, school papers,...), well it just didn't cut it for me period.

I am going to buy a mac come next August, but I'm a little afraid about the Linux syndrome I had. Yes I am used to Windows, and its programs, but I consider myself open minded, and the goal of having a computer is getting things done, on your own terms, not someone else's...
 
Wow, now I'm lying about trying a free operating system (Windows 7) and having purchased 4 camcorders for work. Instead of admitting the OS just doesn't have every driver for every piece of hardware, he calls me a liar. Everything else is his narrow opinion or excuses, as usual. :rolleyes:

I'm the liar, but he can't even say what industry he works in or job description, nor can he say what who his famous music industry friends are.

Did you even read your own links? Did you? Because they basically turn the argument against you. The second link there is just an opinion piece. The first link is some guy having problems with his several year old and completely outdated Sigmatel chipset. The third link is just the media jumping on the opportunity to bash Vista. Microsoft made it well known that it would NOT push through SP1 to people running drivers that were not WHQL certified. You could, however, still download SP1 and install it on your own.

As usual, you find ways to discredit links because it doesn't fit your view. You said

Vista hasn't had any driver issues since about 1 month after release. The "Vista driver issue" is even more overblown than Apple claiming its easy for someone to get a virus.

When presented with examples, you of course make excuses. You've got a severe reading comprehension issue if you think those articles turn my argument against me. I'm sure users everywhere that have issues with Windows would love to hear your excuses. No doubt it would make them feel so much better. The average user really cares whether or not their hardware is old or if it's WHQL certified. :rolleyes:

Keep avoiding the questions and making excuses, Mosx. And it's a two way street, Mosx, because I don't think you have the trouble with OS X you claim to. I think it's made up and/or exaggerated to give your OS X bashing more flair.

EDIT

So what do I owe ya for Tuesday, Mosx? I left the Thinkpad is at work, so it'll have to be then. Screenshots? Video? I owe RiceAddictBoy video of my MBP playing L4D, so I can show you that not only am I running 7, but it will not automagically update the fingerprint reader over WinUpdate, nor will the nVidia driver specific to the card install.

I know I've got 2 of the vidcams out in the field, but I've got two there as well. I might even have the disks they came with (if I didn't already throw that crap out) so we can compare features with iMovie/iDVD.

What can I get ya?
 
How do we know he's even telling the truth?

We don't, just like we don't know his background to form a basis for his opinions, or whether or not he really has these OS X issues.

So far all we know is he's had 2 HP laptops (one of which he hated, which is why he bought a Mac in the first place), and 3 MacBooks.

Oh and don't forget the mysterious industry friends.

None of this would bother me AT ALL if he could just form his opinions and personal anecdotes as such; instead of stating them as facts.

I've worked in IT for over 5 years now supporting Linux, Windows 2000/2003/2008/XP/Vista and OS X. Even after all that, it's a lot of statements from personal experience. My opinions are based on that.

That's all I'm asking for from him.

He can hate OS X to his heart's content, but I want to hear him say "this is my viewpoint, my opinion, my experience" not "this is the truth, these are the facts".

The latter is what gets him cast as a troll, not his viewpoint.
 
Do a search for Ken Bell and Apple. You'll find I'm not the only one who has had problems with him.
No you never mentioned this before and I still think its interesting that you have only now brought up his name - find it googling by chance and threw it in here. :rolleyes:

Its funny that only a few months ago you were damming people for synthetic bench marks - and what do you give.

Why would I use Coverflow? It's slow, bloated, and just generally isn't useful.
Sorry but I find it very useful - especially when I'm teaching.

Actually, I did mention that before. I did in my posts discussing the problems I was having at that point in time. You have a have a habit of stalking me so I'm surprised you missed those posts. Or are you selectively remembering things as you have before?
Your little insults are always expected - please quote where you have said anything before about being yelled at before by Apple.

Oh, and we discussed the customer satisfaction thing before. Like I said, you have people here who have been dragged through the mud by Apple yet they're still satisfied with Apple just because its Apple. Apple's numbers are heavily skewed in its favor because of an overly loyal fan base.
And you've said that PC users have no loyalty - Well except for you and the increasing user base of HP users you stick with HP regardless of the fact that their customer rating is actually falling - If that isn't loyalty I don't know what is. If you'd prefer to stay with a company whose customer ratings are falling then fine.

Thats what disc carriers are for. Most notebook bags I've seen and have owned have had space for at least a dozen discs. And with blu-ray you don't need to worry about scratching.
I know that I still don't want to carry discs about - you can if you want. On the road - how is the battery life of a PC running a BR.

Downloads might eventually overtake physical media for movies. But that is a LONG way off. Why? A number of reasons. DRM is a huge issue. People don't want to be locked to one device. I can't tell you how many people I know have been interested in iTunes movie downloads only to instantly be turned off the moment they find out they can't burn it to a DVD and watch it on their DVD player. The average person almost always replies with "I can burn music I download from iTunes, why not video?" Another reason is bandwidth capping. Charter and Comcast already have bandwidth caps. Time Warner backed off, but AT&T hasn't stopped their testing of capped service either. Other countries have had capped service either always or for years now.

And of course, theres the quality issue. An iTunes "HD" purchase costs as much as a blu-ray disc but is only half the resolution, sometimes 1/10th the video bitrate, and has sub-DVD quality audio (Dolby Digital at a lower bitrate than the DVD Dolby Digital track).
I agree....... see its not difficult - you should try it some time ;)
Two problems with yours. One, Vista SP1 drivers weren't finalized by then. Two, they're using FRAPs which adversely affects performance all around. You're also quoting ZDNet which, really, people who are knowledgeable about hardware wouldn't trust as far as they could throw the building they're housed in.
Heres proper benchmarks for a website that is run by people who actually know what they're doing and talking about: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2302500,00.asp as you can see, Vista SP1 is equal to XP SP3.
I loved this bit though "It's clear that driver issues in Windows Vista have been largely ironed out, as the five to 10 percent performance drop compared to Windows XP is virtually gone. In fact, the only test out of these three in which Vista didn't match its predecessor was in the pre-SP1 World in Conflict - I thought there were no driver issues on Vista - and Vista is still not completely there yet. Maybe one day ;)

Must have made the mistake of buying one with an Intel GPU. All of the nvidia and ATI/AMD based HP's of the last several years have HDMI. Mines a little over a year old and, guess what, it has HDMI.
Looks like you're wrong again. When he gets back from his travels I'll check his exact model - I know its a Pavillion and its AMD.

I wouldn't call adding your own code into the WYSIWYG editor "good results". I did things like that back in the 90s with Frontpage Express.
I would call it imaginative - but iWeb is only a WYSIWYG editor to easily get people a web page - its never gonna run Amazon. I don't see what you're arguing about here.
As soon as you post that list of bands using Garageband to make money. I've been waiting for that list now for what? 6 months?
It was actually September of last year that I first posted the list - but here it is again. PS - You saying they are not respectable still doesn't mean anything. They have all made plenty of money
Oasis
Justice
Radiohead
plus a few other established musicians
Courtney Love, Limp Bizkit, Panic! At The Disco and Scout Niblett
Nine Inch Nails
Erasure
Rihanna
Kate Nash

Dave 'Deptford' Pine, (head of Point Blank music college, whose CV includes work with The Smiths, Massive Attack and Leftfield.)

Fall Out Boy
Mountain Mirrors 

Phantom Music Box 

Draz 

Cricket Rumor Mill 

Blue James Band 

Rantings of EVA 

CM4TBLY NUMB 

Imaginary Maps 

Seven Reasons 

Lo Mass Republic
They are all professional and making money and the list hasn't changed since I posted it back in September of last year.

So where is your list of professionals that think Garageband is rubbish - Quotes would be nice.

Thank you for reminding me about that. I forgot all about that post.
Of course you did:rolleyes:

And as I said before, when someone mentioned that about bad build quality. It's funny someone would say Asus has bad build quality, when (up until the MacBooks), Asus was a primary builder of Apple systems.
You recommended a laptop as an example of PC quality - that PC users demand - but lots were complaining - no aplogies from you please.

But now I need to go over there and put Polaris in his place again.
Arrogant and wrong too - how nice.

Anyway - good luck trying to convert us all. Do you think it will work? Keep ranting though
 
Wow this is an active thread!

As far as blu-ray goes, you can't really compare adoption numbers to regular dvd numbers since the original shift from vhs to dvd was a paradigm shift and while blu-ray is superior to those of us who understand it, it's not to the regular person. Blu-ray sales are slanted due to ps3's and from my experience most people don't understand hd anyway. The average consumer thinks that if their tv is hd then everything on it is.

As far as pc or mac goes, if you've tried a mac and don't like it that's fine. Everyone I know that has has loved it. The biggest barrier though for tech savvy people is relearning how everything is done on a mac as opposed to the pc and this is just normal since they are fundamentally different, try a flavor of linux instead of the mac and see if it's easier!
Once you are used to the mac it is better in my opinion you just need to reorient yourself just as you did all those years learning how to make windows do what you want. Once you do it's easier and better on the mac.

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I dont have much to contribute to the old mac vs pc argument. all i can say is i've used windows, and i've used mac. and in my opinion, the mac is far superior to the pc in every possible way. and i feel no need to justify my opinion because as far as im concerned it's true, and it comes from experience. furthermore, everyone who i've switched to mac never looked back. im not a mac lover for no reason, im a mac lover because i've actually used windows.

I couldn't agree more.

It was DTP that introduced me to the mac platform in 1991. I was already used to the Atari ST so the interface was instantly user friendly, windows 3 was installed on some of the PCs at school at the time, it was an abortion of an OS and it wasn't till XP that Microsoft really had anything I'd consider "usable" as an OS personally and that was heavily influenced by the early incarnation of mac os x, the same way windows 95 was heavily influenced (read stole interface concepts from) by both the Mac OS and NeXTStep.

The finder is still light years ahead of the very cumbersome file management of Vista, the dock is superior to the task bar that to this day still doesn't allow anything as simple as drag and drop over running applications.

The only thing that's lame about Mac OS X compared with Mac OS 9 is how pathetic spotlight is compared with Sherlock in OS 9, no boolean searching (don't bore me with work-arounds that don't help), slow response to filetype searching... it's pathetic but that's a Mac feature compared with the Mac OS X version and Apple had no respect for interface consistency when Mac OS X came out, in fact, Mac OS X can be considered the Apple incarnation of NeXTStep as far as I'm concerned.
 
Arrogant and wrong

haha I missed that he had to "put me in my place". Wow, I feel so schooled; surely I should cower in the presence of someone with such vast IT experience as him.

lol

BTW, Mosx, this is what's included with at least two of the camcorders I was referring to, and if you honestly think it's better than iMovie and iDVD, then......wow, more power to ya.

http://www.pixela.co.jp/oem/canon/e/imagemixer3_se_canon/index.html

It's currently included with most if not all current Canon camcorders as well. Let me guess; Canon camcorders suck though, right? Let's hear the excuse. :)
 
Bluetooth, like I said, is unreliable on the Mac. And aside from using a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, what is it good for? Even the iPhone doesn't use Bluetooth file transfers or anything other than using it for a headset.

The touchpad is good for.. what? Flipping photos. Thats about it. I don't use Safari because its too slow and incompatible. Pinching to zoom in and out isn't as fast as just clicking to zoom in and out.
Bluetooth is not unreliable; I use it everyday! It's obvious you've never used this function of the MacBook or probably any laptop less you wouldn't say such. The touchpad is extremely useful and efficient (as you seem to strive yourself on). Want to change windows or applications? No going down to the dock or taskbar (as in windows). Flick four fingers sideways to choose (which it automatically chooses a different application so if you have two windows open, it'll automatically choose the one you're not using) or flick them down to launch expose. Expose is more efficient that Flip3D and debatably more efficient that moving your mouse down to the task bar (which is far more tedious on small trackpads).

Safari has been rated faster than Firefox second only to Chrome beta.
 
Bluetooth is not unreliable; I use it everyday! It's obvious you've never used this function of the MacBook or probably any laptop less you wouldn't say such. The touchpad is extremely useful and efficient (as you seem to strive yourself on). Want to change windows or applications? No going down to the dock or taskbar (as in windows). Flick four fingers sideways to choose (which it automatically chooses a different application so if you have two windows open, it'll automatically choose the one you're not using) or flick them down to launch expose. Expose is more efficient that Flip3D and debatably more efficient that moving your mouse down to the task bar (which is far more tedious on small trackpads).

Safari has been rated faster than Firefox second only to Chrome beta.

No, no, you're misunderstanding things. Bluetooth is unreliable for Mosx OS X, therefore it's unreliable for everyone. The multitouch pad is useless for Mosx, therefore it's useless for everyone. iLife is useless to Mosx, therefore it's useless for everyone.

People can't just like and use different things and accept it; that's not the way it works. ;)
 
Apple's customer service surveys aren't reliable...

...their systems swapped out/repaired more than half a dozen times and they're still happy with Apple just because it is Apple and not a PC.

...Apple's customer service ratings are greatly skewed by brand loyalty. PC users have no brand loyalty.
I fully agree with this assessment.

I think the majority of all mac owners are by nature, "underdog" supporters first and foremost. For some strange reason these days... it's a crime in this society to put more money into the pocket of the richest guy in the world. (Yet 99.9% of these same folks will use his software on their macs :)).

And Dell, being the largest PC supplier is also a whipping boy for this reason. Personally, I've had nothing but success stories with these people - probably because I buy through my company.

As far as the mac fanboys go, I can't begin to count the number of times I've heard them piss and moan about taking their macbook into the shop 3 and 4 times for the same problems but always close with, "I Love my Mac!" :D I actually hesitated before getting mine for this reason. I've seen dozens of youtube "unboxing" videos where the folks are literally having orgasms over their new stuff. A lot of mac people are just plain weird IMHO. It's some kind of cult I think.

But now I'm a member I guess. :D

I'm really looking forward to Win7. Not because I'll use it.. I wan't to see how Apple answers. (And no, I don't think Snow Leopard is the answer).
 
I'm really looking forward to Win7. Not because I'll use it.. I wan't to see how Apple answers. (And no, I don't think Snow Leopard is the answer).

Really? You haven't even seen Snow Leopard outside of the leaked screenshots of a few new functions. Look who's calling who a fanboy? You're a PC fanboy if you are going to dismiss an OS that hasn't even been released to the public nor have we seen what it will look like or do. Newsflash, it's been and always will be Microsoft that answers to Apple's OS by making it look and act more like the Mac experience. Hmm, never seen the Mac OS try to look and act like Windows. This is constantly proved by those PC fanboys who make their Vista desktops look like Mac OS X by installing fake docks and fake stacks from Rocket Dock. :rolleyes:
 
Omg this thread is getting rediculous. mosx we know you love vista and lie about it to gain support (no driver issues a month after release? Get real)

Please, if you hate mac go to a windows forum and play there.


To the OP you will LOVE your new Mac :) Let us know which one you get.

A person with common sense :D
Every time mosx comes in a thread it's Vista this, Vista that and it ends up being a poor thread. I had a bad experience with Vista and I thought I try Apple. Almost a year later I love my Macbook more than any Window PC I ever owned. I never had it lock up, I never had to restart it, and I enjoy being on a computer again.
The the OP, I agree you will love your new Mac and you will find all your questions on here. Like anything is made by man, you may run into problems here and there, but over all it will be a good experience.
 
The fact that mosx never came back to his "pdf is useless" argument shows his credibility. Yeah mosx, pdf is useless. You know, your opinions - excuse me - "arguments" - are useless IN MY OPINION so let's say that's a fact too! :rolleyes:

One thing I've learned is that you can make outlandish claims and proclaim them as fact and truth, and you don't even need proof! it's really cool. You just need limited experience with 5 laptops and some vaguely referenced industry friends.

Here, let me try.

You can't get infected with malware running Windows Vista, unless you purposely click on something. There is no such thing as hijacked websites with drive-by installs. They are all a figment of your imagination. Vista is 100% secure. As long as you don't click on anything. :p

A person with common sense :D
Every time mosx comes in a thread it's Vista this, Vista that and it ends up being a poor thread. I had a bad experience with Vista and I thought I try Apple. Almost a year later I love my Macbook more than any Window PC I ever owned. I never had it lock up, I never had to restart it, and I enjoy being on a computer again.
The the OP, I agree you will love your new Mac and you will find all your questions on here. Like anything is made by man, you may run into problems here and there, but over all it will be a good experience.

Good post. And with that, I'm going to enjoy the fresh air and sunshine, and stop wasting my time here. :D
 
A person with common sense :D
Every time mosx comes in a thread it's Vista this, Vista that and it ends up being a poor thread. I had a bad experience with Vista and I thought I try Apple. Almost a year later I love my Macbook more than any Window PC I ever owned. I never had it lock up, I never had to restart it, and I enjoy being on a computer again.
The the OP, I agree you will love your new Mac and you will find all your questions on here. Like anything is made by man, you may run into problems here and there, but over all it will be a good experience.

Every single thread I see mosx in, it's only to refer others to Windows machines, and argue how OSX and Apple is crap compared to Windows, HP, Dell, Microsoft etc. My favourite of his arguments so far is the 'pdf is useless'. What he's basically saying is that magazines, newspapers, adverts, books, leaflets, anything that ever goes to print for major production is useless?

Yeah, that one I laughed at.

Go and cry about Apple to other people who agree with you mosx, say a Windows forum? Then perhaps everyone will be happy.
 
A person with common sense :D
Every time mosx comes in a thread it's Vista this, Vista that and it ends up being a poor thread. I had a bad experience with Vista and I thought I try Apple. Almost a year later I love my Macbook more than any Window PC I ever owned. I never had it lock up, I never had to restart it, and I enjoy being on a computer again.
The the OP, I agree you will love your new Mac and you will find all your questions on here. Like anything is made by man, you may run into problems here and there, but over all it will be a good experience.

Ya like polaris20 said, good post.

I decided to give Apple a shot after I got frustrated with Vista. Few months later I'm still loving my macbook. Its simple to use after the 45 min "get to know you" period. I have never had it lock up or anything in normal use. I used boot camp to install XP for a school program and I had an install problem so it locked up and I had to hard restart into OS X to reformat that part of the drive again. But it was a one time thing and it was all human error. :rolleyes:

Also like Primejimbo said, you can find answers to your questions here or on other forums (I recommend here of course!). People are generally friendly minus the few like Mosx who try to start riots at every given chance.

Good luck with whatever you choose tho, let us know what you go with!
 
My favourite of his arguments so far is the 'pdf is useless'. What he's basically saying is that magazines, newspapers, adverts, books, leaflets, anything that ever goes to print for major production is useless?

Yeah, that one I laughed at.

I know right? PDF format is a very big part of my job, which I wouldn't consider useless as it's what I do to bring home the beacon. I was like 'thanks for my daily chuckle' when I read that line :rolleyes:
 
One thing I've learned is that you can make outlandish claims and proclaim them as fact and truth, and you don't even need proof! it's really cool. You just need limited experience with 5 laptops and some vaguely referenced industry friends.

Here, let me try.

You can't get infected with malware running Windows Vista, unless you purposely click on something. There is no such thing as hijacked websites with drive-by installs. They are all a figment of your imagination. Vista is 100% secure. As long as you don't click on anything. :p



Good post. And with that, I'm going to enjoy the fresh air and sunshine, and stop wasting my time here. :D

Ya like polaris20 said, good post.

I decided to give Apple a shot after I got frustrated with Vista. Few months later I'm still loving my macbook. Its simple to use after the 45 min "get to know you" period. I have never had it lock up or anything in normal use. I used boot camp to install XP for a school program and I had an install problem so it locked up and I had to hard restart into OS X to reformat that part of the drive again. But it was a one time thing and it was all human error. :rolleyes:

Also like Primejimbo said, you can find answers to your questions here or on other forums (I recommend here of course!). People are generally friendly minus the few like Mosx who try to start riots at every given chance.

Good luck with whatever you choose tho, let us know what you go with!
Thanks to both of you two:D
Now the one thing that I really hate about my Macbook, I find myself sitting on my nice comfy couch, watching TV and playing on my Macbook way too much :p
 
I fully agree with this assessment.

I think the majority of all mac owners are by nature, "underdog" supporters first and foremost. For some strange reason these days... it's a crime in this society to put more money into the pocket of the richest guy in the world. (Yet 99.9% of these same folks will use his software on their macs :)).

You'd think the underdog supporters would have switched to Linux by now. :cool: Honestly, I don't know if that's still true about the majority of mac users, though it certainly was in the past.

As for me personally, I wouldn't use an OS out of ideological reasons. I'm pragmatic - I use what works best for me.
In my view every commercial company is profit orientated, and if that means alienating people, or blindsiding people in order to get more profits, it will be done. Hence I find it hard to 'like' or 'sympathize with' a company, no matter where it stands in the marketplace.

About Microsoft...considering all the fab - and I mean FAB - charity work Gates has done / is doing as a result of his companies position in the market, I could well imagine there's worse things you could be doing with your money than purchasing from Microsoft.
 
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