I kinda wish I stuck with AT&T now.

[SandersTP]

I am really not a fan of Verizon, just because having worked for them, I know how poorly they *can* operate. I use AT&T, but I know my preference for carrier is as uselessly biased as anyone else's.

AT&T throttles. You have unlimited and use too much? Soft cap (5gb?): throttle.

Verizon uses that fancy "network optimization." Whenever a customer called in to me with that feature on their account it told me right away, whether or not that was the issue. And when network speeds were the issue, the customer always had an unlimited data feature and was using at least 30gigs/mo. I've seen as high as 70gb (and in that case didn't really feel sorry for the person). NetOpt is applied to users with data usage over some kind of threshold in a high traffic or congested network area and applies for up to six months if I remember properly.

Which basically means Verizon's network is having a hard time servicing the folks in your area because you're using so much data. In my opinion, Verizon should catch up to serve the demand, but 70gb for 30$ a month is an obscene ratio. I encouraged folks with high usage to retain their UNL when faced with options to change it, but sometimes it bites back, I guess.

 

[nizmoz]

LOL did you read your sites?
from your first article of "proof"

and the second article the user said he signed up in 2010 (which means verizon has to tell you when throttling).. he showed us a screen shot of his account status... IT DID NOT say "network optimization"

these handful of reports of "4g throttling" are one offs, errors etc towers down.. verizon is obviously not throttling 4g users... or it would be a riot.. especially to the users who paid $650 for an iphone 5.

my experience plus the vast majority is much grater than a couple of threads with users claiming they are being throttled.

you're not making me cry. im at 25 gb this month of 35/20 LTE speeds..

Instead of trying to deny it how about you use Google and search for Verizon throttles LtE and it will come up with many many pages of people getting throttled. Facts are facts dude.

 

[nizmoz]

I am really not a fan of Verizon, just because having worked for them, I know how poorly they *can* operate. I use AT&T, but I know my preference for carrier is as uselessly biased as anyone else's.

AT&T throttles. You have unlimited and use too much? Soft cap (5gb?): throttle.

Verizon uses that fancy "network optimization." Whenever a customer called in to me with that feature on their account it told me right away, whether or not that was the issue. And when network speeds were the issue, the customer always had an unlimited data feature and was using at least 30gigs/mo. I've seen as high as 70gb (and in that case didn't really feel sorry for the person). NetOpt is applied to users with data usage over some kind of threshold in a high traffic or congested network area and applies for up to six months if I remember properly.

Which basically means Verizon's network is having a hard time servicing the folks in your area because you're using so much data. In my opinion, Verizon should catch up to serve the demand, but 70gb for 30$ a month is an obscene ratio. I encouraged folks with high usage to retain their UNL when faced with options to change it, but sometimes it bites back, I guess.

Proof right there from someone who worked for them knowing they throttled..

 

[auero]

Carriers will vary based on where you are located. I'm a black hole and Verizon claims my town is covered in LTE when I know for a fact there is no LTE. AT&T on the other hand is a little more truthful in showing me where I have cover and where I don't and their HSPA+ is miles faster than Verizon's 3G here. I'm glad I didn't move to Verizon.

 

[brand]

Ohh yea well I read somewhere that Verizon helps with the fight against Americans in the Middle East

So Verizon helps people fighting against Americans in the Middle East? I highly doubt that.

 

[mpossoff]

I am really not a fan of Verizon, just because having worked for them, I know how poorly they *can* operate. I use AT&T, but I know my preference for carrier is as uselessly biased as anyone else's.

AT&T throttles. You have unlimited and use too much? Soft cap (5gb?): throttle.

Verizon uses that fancy "network optimization." Whenever a customer called in to me with that feature on their account it told me right away, whether or not that was the issue. And when network speeds were the issue, the customer always had an unlimited data feature and was using at least 30gigs/mo. I've seen as high as 70gb (and in that case didn't really feel sorry for the person). NetOpt is applied to users with data usage over some kind of threshold in a high traffic or congested network area and applies for up to six months if I remember properly.

Which basically means Verizon's network is having a hard time servicing the folks in your area because you're using so much data. In my opinion, Verizon should catch up to serve the demand, but 70gb for 30$ a month is an obscene ratio. I encouraged folks with high usage to retain their UNL when faced with options to change it, but sometimes it bites back, I guess.

Is it possible that the spectrum agreement in which VZW can't throttle and people using obscene amounts of data will 'bite VZW in the butt' down the road?

 

[mac.cali]

Is it possible that the spectrum agreement in which VZW can't throttle and people using obscene amounts of data will 'bite VZW in the butt' down the road?

It's possible. But I don't think Verizon will want people to say how slow their network is. They don't want to be known as the new Sprint.

 

[Arnezie]

So Verizon helps people fighting against Americans in the Middle East? I highly doubt that.

There was a bit of sarcasm there that you apparently didn't pick up on.

 

[BFizzzle]

Proof right there from someone who worked for them knowing they throttled..

ghahahahahahhhadhfashdfahsdflahshahahahah

throttling for six months??!?! babahahahaha nice proof.

no offense to the guy.. but he is a CSR.. i dont need to say much more.
there are sooo many variables. for all we know he was tethering without permission.. (not paying the tethering fee) so verizon throttled him.
there are so many possibilities you refuse to consider.

im sorry i think with logic. less than a handful of people getting slow speeds on LTe doesnt automatically make me think "zomg tethering!!!11!1!"

im sorry you dont have real unlimited LTE.. ill be sure and use an extra 30gb this month just for you

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Is it possible that the spectrum agreement in which VZW can't throttle and people using obscene amounts of data will 'bite VZW in the butt' down the road?

It's possible. But I don't think Verizon will want people to say how slow their network is. They don't want to be known as the new Sprint.

from verizons FCC agreement

Specifically, the agency's rules for this spectrum state that licensees offering service on C Block of 700 MHz spectrum "shall not deny, limit, or restrict the ability of their customers to use the devices and applications of their choice on the licensee's C Block network.

That seems like throttling the device would be limiting the device. Who knows what the legal interpretation is.

 

[mac.cali]

ghahahahahahhhadhfashdfahsdflahshahahahah

throttling for six months??!?! babahahahaha nice proof.

no offense to the guy.. but he is a CSR.. i dont need to say much more.
there are sooo many variables. for all we know he was tethering without permission.. (not paying the tethering fee) so verizon throttled him.
there are so many possibilities you refuse to consider.

im sorry i think with logic. less than a handful of people getting slow speeds on LTe doesnt automatically make me think "zomg tethering!!!11!1!"

im sorry you dont have real unlimited LTE.. ill be sure and use an extra 30gb this month just for you

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That seems like throttling the device would be limiting the device. Who knows what the legal interpretation is.

Dam you Verizon on your data throttling. LOL. I'm about 15gb so far in my billing cycle. I'll see you 30GB and raise you to 50GB.

 

[b24pgg]

HSPA+, faster 3G, faster LTE. Plus voice and data.

Verizon allows simultaneous voice and data...

 

[mac.cali]

Verizon allows simultaneous voice and data...

It depends on what 4G device you are using. You can't do it on the iPhone 5.

 

[BFizzzle]

Dam you Verizon on your data throttling. LOL. I'm about 15gb so far in my billing cycle. I'll see you 30GB and raise you to 50GB.

im all in this round my good sir.

 

[ROLLTIDE1]

It depends on what 4G device you are using. You can't do it on the iPhone 5.

It's the only 4G Device on Verizon that can't do both

 

[nizmoz]

Funny because I like facts which you obviously don't have.

ghahahahahahhhadhfashdfahsdflahshahahahah

throttling for six months??!?! babahahahaha nice proof.

no offense to the guy.. but he is a CSR.. i dont need to say much more.
there are sooo many variables. for all we know he was tethering without permission.. (not paying the tethering fee) so verizon throttled him.
there are so many possibilities you refuse to consider.

im sorry i think with logic. less than a handful of people getting slow speeds on LTe doesnt automatically make me think "zomg tethering!!!11!1!"

im sorry you dont have real unlimited LTE.. ill be sure and use an extra 30gb this month just for you

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from verizons FCC agreement



That seems like throttling the device would be limiting the device. Who knows what the legal interpretation is.

 

[BFizzzle]

Funny because I like facts which you obviously don't have.

hehe
you're right some random customer service rep on a forum is "fact"


one upping your own post.. makes it even more factual.

 

[nizmoz]

I guess the 100s of articles I came across on google search are wrong too huh? You have yet to provide proof otherwise that isn't from Verizon because they will deny it like AT&T did.

 

[BFizzzle]

I guess the 100s of articles I came across on google search are wrong too huh? You have yet to provide proof otherwise that isn't from Verizon because they will deny it like AT&T did.

yes news articles=fact...forgive me.

please show me 10, with facts since you like facts.


on the first four pages there is only two articles about it.. one you mentioned early both about the same article on droid life.. who used 60gb in 10 days or something.. the guy goes on to say he was not being throttled.. his speeds went back to normal.

Droid-life reports that another Verizon LTE madman has come forward claiming to have used twice as much bandwidth in an even shorter interval without any throttling. That could suggest this was an isolated incident, that the throttling is done at Verizon’s discretion rather than with a set cut-off. Then again, maybe this heavy-hitter just has a couple more days to go before the carrier starts throttling him, too.

once again..for all we know these people being "throttled" could just be using unauthorized tethering.. slow network due to hardware malfunction on the tower, ffs there could be a festival going on down the road and the tower is overloaded. so many variables.

regardless the fact is i am past 20gb and not being throttled. there are users on here already past 100gb and not being throttled. I will continue and enjoy my throttle free unlimited until verizon says otherwise.. not some random guy who confuses accusations of forum users with facts.

 

[SandersTP]

hehe
you're right some random customer service rep on a forum is "fact"


one upping your own post.. makes it even more factual.

Just tryin' to be helpful, bubblegum~

 

[einmusiker]

HSPA+, faster 3G, faster LTE. Plus voice and data. But a pro of verizon is signal almost everywhere, facetime over celluar, and the comfort of knowing the company actually cares about what consumers want most of the time. Making everything a shared data plan was kind of stupid but it was also stupid of at&t to make it so facetime over celluar you had to be moved to the same plan.

So how much were your overage charges this month?

 

[BFizzzle]

Just tryin' to be helpful, bubblegum~

i know hommie, and its no disrespect i just think there is more to it than that. I believe you that it said it was being optimized. Could have just been a system glitch and he really shouldnt have.. for all we know he had been using hundreds of GBs of unauthorized tethering so verizon decided to throttle him as a one off...


- my point to nizmoz was that with the exception of yours, all the other claims have not been legitimized. they could be so may reasons why they are experiencing slower speeds.

 

[bogatyr]

HSPA+, faster 3G, faster LTE. Plus voice and data. But a pro of verizon is signal almost everywhere, facetime over celluar, and the comfort of knowing the company actually cares about what consumers want most of the time. Making everything a shared data plan was kind of stupid but it was also stupid of at&t to make it so facetime over celluar you had to be moved to the same plan.

You talk about having signal everywhere with Verizon - my question is... is the signal LTE or 3G? If LTE, then ATTs 3G/H+ don't matter.

Also if on LTE, your speed won't matter as long as you're hitting enough to do things on your phone without feeling a slow down. Pretty much a non-issue on LTE.

Verizon caring about customers? I'm not sure any of the phone companies care about us - just our money. I'm a loyal Verizon customer and their store/phone support is great. I've heard the same from ATT people. However, I still feel like both companies want to bend us over.

 

[Arnezie]

This is why I won't ever be switching

 

[cwosigns]

But you have to pay for it by not getting discounted price for upgrades. Not sure why people pretend VZ is giving them some bonus.

Discounts come with strings. If you're comfortable with them (2-year contract, throttling, no FaceTime over cellular), awesome. I'd rather pay full price, keep my unlimited data, and never have to worry about throttling or caps. I use my phone on Verizon how, when and as much as I want.

YMMV

 

[mpossoff]

This is why I won't ever be switching View attachment 368902

Yea if you ever get throttled those speeds won't mean anything.