You're not forced to use it though (and it isn't turned on by default) and if you don't, then things just continue as they were before
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iCloud Development Held Up By 'Deep Organizational Issues' at Apple
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You're not forced to use it though (and it isn't turned on by default) and if you don't, then things just continue as they were before
iCloud excels for syncing non-critical data between devices. But for any situation where it has to store important data, there needs to be a way to back it up independently of the data being cached on devices.
I use it myself for device backups and syncing configuration data around, but refuse to depend on it for important data until this issue is resolved.
Keeping a full cache of the iCloud account's data on your Mac and backing that folder up with time machine would mostly resolve this issue.
For everyone who thinks Apple should care about this post, forget it. iCloud photos are for people who currently keep all their photos on their phone not backed up. That's most people. If you currently are managing your photos actively, you aren't the target audience. Back off, keep doing what you are doing, don't waste your breath.
My main issue is the inability to back it up automatically like you can any other storage device. That's why I only use it as a temporary storage location.
it's better than the current way.
if i need to delete a photo, i need to delete it from camera roll, photostream, recently deleted, and iPhoto (since it auto imports photostream)
explaining this to my mom is never going to happen.
Apple has a deep disrespect for customer data. No one in their right mind would trust iCould because Apple is way too welcome to say, oops we figured you did not need that anymore.
Now I have no problem with the Apple hardware single source ecosystem. But my data single sourced with Apple's 'I don't care about last years' attitude. No Way!
I'd be happy to continue doing what I'm doing, however Apple has stopped development on Aperture (which I paid for) and iPhoto. There's probably a good chance that the ability to sync photos from your computer to iOS devices will eventually be removed too.
I've been fairly happy with Apple and their products, but have concern that they may eventually become a hostile to people who need to manage their own data. I have great hope that they don't.
This is precisely the problem. If Apple weren't killing these products I'd simply continue to do things as I always have and not be complaining today.
The whole photos in the cloud thing is confusing. It would be nice to see a coherent vision.
Currently we have some cloud services, like Facebook and Tumblr where we store photos and then the camera roll on our phones. I think I'm alone among my friends in actually using iPhoto to create events and manage photos, keeping my camera roll as clear as possible.
Do we need another cloud service where our photos live? Or a cloud service to keep our devices in sync?
Currently we have some cloud services, like Facebook and Tumblr where we store photos and then the camera roll on our phones. I think I'm alone among my friends in actually using iPhoto to create events and manage photos, keeping my camera roll as clear as possible.
Do we need another cloud service where our photos live? Or a cloud service to keep our devices in sync?
I don't see any good reason why you can't opt in to iCloud Photo Library AND also be able sync albums/events from iPhoto and Aperture to your devices. It seems like a completely unnecessary restriction on Apple's part.
I like iCloud Drive, it makes sense to me how it works within the ecosystem (the files way up in the actual cloud are left alone and only imported/copied within a specific app; if files need to be deleted from that app, it doesn't trash your originals). More apps on iOS need access though, Mail comes immediately to mind.
Photo Library? I barely even know anything about it, only that 1. it seems to be a cluster, 2. when can I just create a folder, move *selected* photos to it, and designate only THOSE to sync? And sure, you could say just do that via drag and drop to iCloud Drive, but now the issue makes itself present.... what is Library going to do or not do VS Drive and so forth...............
Please simplify this Apple...
Photo Library? I barely even know anything about it, only that 1. it seems to be a cluster, 2. when can I just create a folder, move *selected* photos to it, and designate only THOSE to sync? And sure, you could say just do that via drag and drop to iCloud Drive, but now the issue makes itself present.... what is Library going to do or not do VS Drive and so forth...............
Please simplify this Apple...
I too use iPhoto to manage my photos. I don't think we'll be forced to stop using iPhoto (or in your case, Aperture), until there is a final, non-beta, finished product.
This is precisely the problem. If Apple weren't killing these products I'd simply continue to do things as I always have and not be complaining today.
If you don't like change, you're on the wrong website talking about the wrong company...
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Mobile Me, dude. Mobile Me.
I'm waiting to see iBooks folder in icloud drive to sync PDFs collections between devices. Also music/iTunes integration with icloud drive to access, add, delete MP3 files and seamlessly be synchronized across all devices. iTunes match for tv shows and movies please? Also overhaul on family sharing with more credit card options, and I haven't tried to ponder how gift cards fit into the plans payment system.
Get it together! Ever since Siri, they have been releasing too many betas. I liked apple because everything was structured by its release, but it seems like they've been lacking the development completion aspect of it.
Get it together! Ever since Siri, they have been releasing too many betas. I liked apple because everything was structured by its release, but it seems like they've been lacking the development completion aspect of it.
I'm all for change. Just not change that involves being forced to put all my data on the Internet to continue doing what I'm already doing.
What about Ping? Or the original iPod earbuds? Not many agree with me, but I would vote for iTunes Match. Horrible for me though it seems most people had a better experience.
I was thinking about 10.10 and 8.1, and how every year they pile on features, which I appreciate, but they don't fix them up or polish them, they just keep blazing away.
Apple, take 1.5 years, fix everything you have right now, optimize the software, give us some great working services, then implement your new stuff again.
Apple, take 1.5 years, fix everything you have right now, optimize the software, give us some great working services, then implement your new stuff again.
On iOS you can't rename, delete or move documents about in iCloud Drive because the only real access you have is that stupid document picker.
You can't remove things like numbers, pages folders etc from the picker even though you don't have those apps installed.
Why they couldn't have made the iCloud Drive iOS version the same as the OS X version is beyond me.
It happened under Steve also. Did we forget how he went of off on, IIRC, the Mobile Me team?
In short, it has nowhere near the level of functionality that it should do. Apple clearly want to compete with established services like Dropbox and OneDrive, but rather than emulating the simplicity of file-folder hierarchies and similar management on mobile devices, they've built upon the convoluted system of apps having 'containers'. This makes no sense at all - if you turn iCloud Drive ON, why should you have deal with these containers and their aliases?
What's worse is that Apple expect people to use their service on a day-to-day basis for work. Unless they get real and sort out the file management on iOS, they'll continue to trail behind.
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