I'm sure the NSA doesn't care about your Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc passwords anyway. They already have direct backdoor access.
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iCloud Keychain Removed in iOS 7 GM
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I'm sure the NSA doesn't care about your Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc passwords anyway. They already have direct backdoor access.
It is absolutely awesome. It is still functional in Mac OS X Mavericks. So that is a good sign. I have been throughly impressed with Keychain and The Credit Card Remembering function.
This and the lack of a mid-range iPhone 5C also baffled me. Such missed opportunities! Apple is being destroyed in the stock market today due to no mid-range iPhone to gain a bigger foothold in the Chinese market. With the fingerprint reader, keychain in the cloud could have been a tentpole feature of iOS 7.
It would have been a million times better if they would only open an API that will allow a service like lastpass to be integrated.
Sorry Apple, but my work computer is a windows machine and my preferred browser on the Mac is Chrome. Even Mac+iPhone users like me don't really live in a pure Apple eco-system. We need choice.
Sorry Apple, but my work computer is a windows machine and my preferred browser on the Mac is Chrome. Even Mac+iPhone users like me don't really live in a pure Apple eco-system. We need choice.
My guess is that iCloud Keychain will be integrated with Touch ID in 5s. That was always my initial reaction after first hearing about iCloud Keychain and the rumors of a fingerprint sensor.
So maybe they're just taking a little extra time to polish and make sure its very secure and ready to public use. Or maybe they're waiting for Mavericks to launch.
So maybe they're just taking a little extra time to polish and make sure its very secure and ready to public use. Or maybe they're waiting for Mavericks to launch.
Isn't it unlikely that Apple is waiting for Mavericks? Most iPhone users don't have a Mac. Something else must be up.
This was my first thought as to why the feature was delayed. Or it could be "delayed" like air print that was supposed to work for all printers in like iOS 3 or 4 I think?
Fingerprint feature does not make this obsolete. Your fingerprint should act as a "master key" to access iCloud Keychain. So the passwords to the individual websites are stored in the Keychain, and the master access is authenticated via Touch ID.
based on past releases we could see this in iOS 7.0.1 around November?
iOS 6.0.1 was released on November 1. iOS 6.1 beta came out on the 1st with new features so maybe iOS 7.1? but that was not released in final till the next year. I dont think we are that far off for this feature I would think?
iOS 6.0.1 was released on November 1. iOS 6.1 beta came out on the 1st with new features so maybe iOS 7.1? but that was not released in final till the next year. I dont think we are that far off for this feature I would think?
iOS 7 is a huge rush, with so much of it coming after the Forstall-to-Ives transition. Exciting but scary. NOT a release I want to be an early adopter of (7.1 please). And yet, they do have to ship the OS--and it's tied to new devices as well. What to do? Delaying a feature or two that isn't up to scratch yet seems like a very reasonable choice.
iCloud Keychain matters more to me in Mavericks: ease the process of setting up a new Mac when I don't want to auto-migrate.
Traditional computers use the same web sites, services (including iCloud), and passwords as iPads and iPhones. Why would they be different?
iCloud Keychain matters more to me in Mavericks: ease the process of setting up a new Mac when I don't want to auto-migrate.
Traditional computers use the same web sites, services (including iCloud), and passwords as iPads and iPhones. Why would they be different?
Only thing I can think of is some people might want to share passwords with family members phones, someone might have an iPad and an iPhone, someone might have an iPod Touch and an iPad. Someone might have an iPad Mini and an iPad. Someone might have an iPhone and an iPad Mini. Someone might have an iPod Touch and an iPad Mini.
(I am sure I missed a few)
Protip: Does it matter?
The NSA doesn't stop at your router and turns around saying "oh, wow... this isn't the cloud, we shouldn't go that far..."
Actually, it really doesn't matter whether you use iCloud or not.
Maybe a little, but I won't get my hopes high.
Will I use iCloud's Keychain? Hell no, Apple is HORRIBLE in cloud services compared to contenders like Google and that's before you consider security issues.
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I hope you're right. Also, though web apps will be able to use the keychain right away, many proper apps will need to be updated so they can ask Keychain for your password (Keychain can ask you for your fingerprint, if appropriate). And Apple will have to have a way to keep apps from asking for other passwords.
Me too. Especially since most hands on reviews I've seen said it worked really slick. It's not a trivial thing to get something like that right. I'm assuming Apple is cautious with 3rd party integration and will only introduce that after consumers have used touch ID and are comfortable with it. Security is not something to take lightly. One breach with a 3rd party app and it would be a PR disaster for Apple.
I've been using iOS 7 since the first DP/Beta and haven't wanted to look back to iOS6 since. sure there's a few things that bug me, but they are mostly things that bugged me in iOS6 also.
Do you have specific things you don't like about iOS7? (besides the icon designs that everyone cries about) I'm not trying to dismiss your opinion or be rude, I'm just trying to understand your perspective better since I feel differently and perhaps I'm missing something.
As for keychain in the cloud..I still like to keep things as local as possible, so I'm not sure how I feel about it. But tie keychain access with the finger scanner (scan your finger and have it auto populate logins/passwords for you) and that does interest me.
I think its evidently apparent at this point in time that Apple is not interested in making a cheap, low-end phone. They're not waging in a marketshare war. And thats worked perfectly fine for them thus far. They command a miniscule share of the PC market, yet make the most money. They command a 15-20% share of smartphones, yet make 70% of the industry profits.
Thats Apples strategy. It always has been, and its seems to work very well. Apple wants to maintain a brand of prestige, flooding the market so that EVERYONE can afford one, it loses that allure and prestige. If everyone could afford a Mercedes, they lose part of their brand allure, they just become another Toyota (which is exactly why Toyota splits their premium and low ends into two separate brands and entities).
Apple may be a stubborn company, but that stubbornness is exactly what got them where they are. If they constantly listened to conventional wisdom, they would have never entered retail, smartphones would still be rocking keyboards, and they would have made a cheap crappy netbook instead of the iPad. Before Steve came back and the company DID listen to conventional wisdom, that almost KILLED them. They started the Mac clone program due to the noise about Apple needing to license Mac OS to topple Windows. It didn't do that at all, and ended up hurting Apple almost into death.
So I think its in Apples (and their shareholders) best interest to not listen to all the noise from hedge funds who have NO clue how to create products.
And...in terms of "Later this year" pertaining to Mavericks release, what exactly does "Later this year" mean???
October, November, December?
I WANT A DATE! NOW!
October, November, December?
I WANT A DATE! NOW!
Not at all. There's lots of apps and webpages I use on my iPhone that are always asking for passwords. Right now, I use LastPass, but it's a pain since it can't directly send the info to apps and I have to do a lot of copy/paste.
However, as someone else here wrote, it might make sense to wait for Mavericks to roll out the feature on iPhones and Macs at the same time.
David