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Very interested in this feature... I have been using 1Password for all my passwords for years now... only downfall i see to this is that it doesn't work on PC's

It will probably work on PC's just fine - so long as you're using safari and have the iCloud client installed. :cool:

As a 1Password user, I'm assuming this will work perfectly within Safari and may even replace it for me.
But when we want to log in to an App, at least the initial time, we will still need 1Password to copy and paste the PW into app.

I'm no developer, but I'm assuming iCloud keychain is safari only, and doesn't carry over to App log in fields.
 
I'm sure the NSA doesn't care about your Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc passwords anyway. They already have direct backdoor access.

And you know that how? I have seen the _claim_ on some blogs, based on either total misunderstanding of serious reports, or possibly made up to get more clicks. But there isn't any evidence for it.
 
At first I was like :mad: removed??
Then I was like :confused: when I read it is due to Mavericks not being out yet.
Then I was like :) when I see the feature is still coming soon
And then like :eek: when I realized Mavericks is only a couple of months away!!
 
Only thing I can think of is some people might want to share passwords with family members phones, someone might have an iPad and an iPhone, someone might have an iPod Touch and an iPad. Someone might have an iPad Mini and an iPad. Someone might have an iPhone and an iPad Mini. Someone might have an iPod Touch and an iPad Mini.

(I am sure I missed a few)

Alright, that makes sense. Thanks. :)

Do you use an iPhone and an iPad? ;)


I do :) I like having it sync between them.

Nope, just an iPad. My phone is a Lumia 520. Hadn't thought of that. Thanks. :)
 
Wait? So when I go into the Settings for safari, then Passwords & Autofill, I have all the screens and options that are shown, I can save passwords and credit cards (I just added 4 of them) what additional am I missing?
 
Apple mostly likely remove the keychain feature for now due to the large number of people who are scared of the NSA obtaining fingerprint data from Touch ID. Once the initial panic subsides and paranoia is calmed it will most likely be offered.
 
I think its evidently apparent at this point in time that Apple is not interested in making a cheap, low-end phone. They're not waging in a marketshare war. And thats worked perfectly fine for them thus far. They command a miniscule share of the PC market, yet make the most money. They command a 15-20% share of smartphones, yet make 70% of the industry profits.

Thats Apples strategy. It always has been, and its seems to work very well. Apple wants to maintain a brand of prestige, flooding the market so that EVERYONE can afford one, it loses that allure and prestige. If everyone could afford a Mercedes, they lose part of their brand allure, they just become another Toyota (which is exactly why Toyota splits their premium and low ends into two separate brands and entities).

Apple may be a stubborn company, but that stubbornness is exactly what got them where they are. If they constantly listened to conventional wisdom, they would have never entered retail, smartphones would still be rocking keyboards, and they would have made a cheap crappy netbook instead of the iPad. Before Steve came back and the company DID listen to conventional wisdom, that almost KILLED them. They started the Mac clone program due to the noise about Apple needing to license Mac OS to topple Windows. It didn't do that at all, and ended up hurting Apple almost into death.

So I think its in Apples (and their shareholders) best interest to not listen to all the noise from hedge funds who have NO clue how to create products.

The market isn't calling out for a cheap iPhone, just a mid-tier. Something in the 399-499 range. Margins would still be very high, and they need to capture mindshare in china, or people upgrading from a cheap Xaomi will go right to Samsung.
 
And you know that how? I have seen the _claim_ on some blogs, based on either total misunderstanding of serious reports, or possibly made up to get more clicks. But there isn't any evidence for it.

Edward and I are good buddies. He was even over at my house for Christmas last year.

Spend a little more time reading from credible sources. If you choose not to believe any of it then that's your choice. I'm just saying.
 
Here I was hoping the iPhone 5s would upload all my passwords to the NSA along with my fingerprint. Assuming they haven't already swiped it from the DMV database .
 
I read through the thread. I saw a mention of a PC version of KeyChain...

I tried some quick googling and didn't find anything.

Is there some way to create/initialize my passwords stored on a Windows PC into the iCloud based keychain?

I currently use Ascendo's DataVault. It is a nice program, but I'd prefer the Apple/iOS solution if it auto fills the passwords...
 
yup..now where did i put my tinfoil hat

lol, wow, so much ignorance.

The story ran last week the NSA try to circumvent encryption wherever possible and the US government's response to the story was that it "was not news…" !

If anyone still thinks it's 'tinfoil hat' paranoia to think the NSA will have at the very least have asked Apple to put a back door in all their encrypted products at this point, you have not being paying attention. You can of course choose to believe that Apple would never allow such a thing - perhaps that is indeed why they have withdrawn the iCloud keychain? But anyone denying it's even a possibility now is the proverbial ostrich with their head in the sand.

The Obama administration has responded to revelations on the NSA's successes in defeating online security and privacy published on Thursday by the Guardian, New York Times and ProPublica.

In a statement issued on Friday, the office of the director of national intelligence (ODNI), which oversees the US's intelligence agencies, suggested the stories, simultaneously published on the front pages of the New York Times and Guardian, were "not news", but nonetheless provided a "road map … to our adversaries".

At the core of the story, based on reporting from dozens of top-secret documents relating to encryption passed to the Guardian by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, were efforts by the NSA and its British counterpart GCHQ to place "backdoors" in online security, and to undermine internationals standards.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/06/nsa-encryption-revelations-roadmap-us

Statement:
http://icontherecord.tumblr.com/post/60428572417/odni-statement-on-the-unauthorized-disclosure-of
 
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I was reffereing to the iCloud Keychain.... I use 1Password on my iPhone, iPad, Mac and PC's

I think a password manager has to be cross platform for it to really work.

I use LastPass which is essentially the same as 1Password. However, I am a 100% apple home where at work I am forced to use an bloated PC which is being upgraded from XP to 7 :eek:

Anyway, for my personal use, leveraging the fingerprint and keychain combo will likely solve all my family password needs (and those of NSA by extension). I really dont need to mix my business and personal passwords together.

Clearly, my situation is not everyone's and for those poor souls that still to in a multi-vendor house hold the keychain is not really an option. And this is why 1Password and LastPass are not going away.

PS -- before anyone flames me, I am absolutely saying that a single vendor environment is better. I prefer Apple, but going all Samsung is a viable option. Don't know of any other vendor that has a fully integrated stack that can compete with these two.
 
If it isn't ready for primetime, then it isn't ready. For something as significant as passwords, I'd rather they get it right the first time than rush out something to make a deadline.

100% right. Until 10.9 is released there is no keychain on the computer.Once IOS and OSX are supported iCloud keychain will be great.
 
The fingerprint thing would seem to make this walking obsolete. But guess that is hardware only. And sites still require passwords

That's not how it will work. You will go to the login page and you'll be presented with a popup asking you to put your finger on the sensor. It will then use the credentials for that site that are in your iCloud Keychain.

I was surprised when it wasn't announced yesterday, but now it makes sense. Apparently iCloud Keychain just isn't ready.
 
Your fingerprint will be your password to the 'keychain' of all your other passwords, including Netflix, your bank, etc. Much like 1password works (but with a fingerprint password instead of a text password)

So, yes, you will be able to get into Netflix/your bank with your fingerprint.

True, but it will still require you to have the password database (aka, Keychain) on your phone. The fingerprint is just used to authenticate the login exchange between Keychain and the app/website
 
several companies have recieved NSA letters requiring them to put in back doors. Several companies have chosen to shut down those services instead. (See lavabit.) If Apple chose to discontinue this service instead of giving the keys away, I thank them.

Note: Even if the NSA has full access to Amazon, Google and Pornomattic, that does not give them access to small services or server based software you have written yourself.

When it comes to security, only trust open source software. Trust countries not friendly with the United States, before you trust our allies.
 
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