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iCloud Keychain Removed in iOS 7 GM

Apple dont be stingy and limit the touch id to iphones. Bring them to macs and ipads.

Playing it safe is going to kill the company
 
darkslide29 said:
It will probably work on PC's just fine - so long as you're using safari and have the iCloud client installed. 😎

As a 1Password user, I'm assuming this will work perfectly within Safari and may even replace it for me.
But when we want to log in to an App, at least the initial time, we will still need 1Password to copy and paste the PW into app.

I'm no developer, but I'm assuming iCloud keychain is safari only, and doesn't carry over to App log in fields.
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Apple doesn't maintain Safari for Windows anymore, so that ain't gonna happen.
 
AppleZilla said:
1Password lives to see another dawn.
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1Passward, oneSafe and similar programs will not be replaced by iCloud Keychain for everyone. And in reality, I say most people who use a password keeper will still use it even if they also use iCloud Keychain.

This has been discussed in several threads, but in a nutshell the password keeper apps also:
  • Store information that doesn't make sense or fit in to an iCloud Keychain:
    • Software serial numbers/activation keys
    • Serial Numbers, including portable gear like cameras and lenses.
    • Passwords/PINs needed when calling certain companies
    • Social Security Number? Passport number?
    • Combinations for locks?
  • If you use more than OS X and iOS you get cross platform support from the password keeper apps.
  • You already have it set up, why not keep it for redundancy in case somehting happens to the iCloud Keychain?
 
Is it possible that the feature is still in but only works on the new 5S via the fingerprint sensor?
 
oh fudge

This is a no no.....

Apple removing stuff.... There's a reason for everything. Get all out hopes up, and Apple does this..

You know Apple just released they could have been competitive like Last Pass... don't they ?
 
m7ammed said:
I bet Apple will somehow integrate the fingerprint sensor into all this, makes perfect sense.
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Incorrect, the fingerprint is said to be registered on the specific device only and not to be shared via any server or other device.
 
ejrizo said:
Very interested in this feature... I have been using 1Password for all my passwords for years now... only downfall i see to this is that it doesn't work on PC's
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And that's my problem as well. No PC version. I use my PC nearly all the time at home.
 
Little/lot off topic but I wonder when gm will be available to download over air? I really don't wanna download it on my Mac then install...
 
JGRE said:
Incorrect, the fingerprint is said to be registered on the specific device only and not to be shared via any server or other device.
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not if its used to unlock the use of keychain on the phone, in the same way it allows you to buy stuff on iTunes
 
Ralf The Dog said:
several companies have recieved NSA letters requiring them to put in back doors. Several companies have chosen to shut down those services instead. (See lavabit.) If Apple chose to discontinue this service instead of giving the keys away, I thank them
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- Maybe Apple really did choose to not offer the functionality because of mandated NSA backdoor.
- Maybe they just ran into technical difficulties / unreliabilities that prevent them from getting iCloud Keychains in time for the release date.
- Or are they just waiting for Mavericks (though I'd guess the majority of their iCloud user base doesn't even use a Mac).

The scary thing is:
All three notions seem equally possible as of late. 😱

xero9 said:
I'm sure the NSA doesn't care about your Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc passwords anyway. They already have direct backdoor access.
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As if Google, Facebook and Amazon passwords were the really sensible, (valuable, mission-critical...?) passwords on one's keychains... 🙄

Ralf The Dog said:
When it comes to security, only trust open source software. Trust countries not friendly with the United States, before you trust our allies.
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Always keep in mind, though, that even open source can be compromised (Debian RNG comes to mind).

When it comes to privacy, just don't buy American.
Especially as a non-American.

Any time that I read/watch something critical about NSA surveillance (coming from America/an American), all the fuss seems to be about keeping tabs on Americans. While NSA spying on American citizens/residents has so far been limited to (strings of) "unfortunate and regrettable mishaps", no American official or politican - and not even the media - seem to have any qualms whatsoever over spying on non-US subjects/targets.

Everyone and everything else in the world seems to be considered fair game.
 
macaddict06 said:
True, but it will still require you to have the password database (aka, Keychain) on your phone. The fingerprint is just used to authenticate the login exchange between Keychain and the app/website
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Exactly, yes.

Apple would not send the 'fingerprint data' to Netflix, but instead use the fingerprint data to unlock the Keychain to grab the Netflix password to send to Netflix.
 
JGRE said:
Incorrect, the fingerprint is said to be registered on the specific device only and not to be shared via any server or other device.
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No problem: Keychains could (possibly) be encrypted with a key that can be unlocked by your fingerprint. On demand, even ("require fingerprint touch every time keychain items are to be unlocked").
 
Lord Hamsa said:
If it isn't ready for primetime, then it isn't ready. For something as significant as passwords, I'd rather they get it right the first time than rush out something to make a deadline.
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I think it would have been part of the release if they hadn't stepped back to rethink some things due to the NSA's illegal activities (i.e.: they want to protect us from the NSA). I think the Touch ID feature would have had a whole lot more announcements yesterday regarding iCloud Keychain if the NSA's nefarious activities had not been exposed.

If Apple is covering their butts (and ours) then I think they are doing the right thing by delaying it. This is something that is far too risky to get wrong (i.e.: iCloud Keychain and its integration with Touch ID).
 
Apple had asked testers of Mavericks to concentrate in keychain sync only between macs and not with iOS. This shows that the feature isn't ready for prime time on iOS. Having said that, I had issues syncing the keychain with my iOS devices, it only worked well between Macs.
iOS keychain sync is coming, but probably with the first update in a couple of weeks.
 
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