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IDC Projects Windows Phone to Top iPhone in Market Share by 2015

As much as I doubt that much massive growth, I'm more entertained by the "NEGATIVE" responses.
Not that I agree with them, (because I don't... I've used the WP7 and it's a decent phone with features people like that iOS will NEVER have)...
but mainly because having a negative reaction to a guess as to how other people will spend their money is such a infinitely retarded thing to do. X-D
Seriously, why the hell do any of you even care what type of phone other people decide to use? If you really DO like your iPhone, then you wouldn't.
Only an imbecil would make a personal purchase decision based mainly on what other people do.
The only reason anyone would care (besides being a stockholder, or Apple employee) would be that more than actually liking the phone itself you've bought the phone because you're a joiner.... you want to be 'popular' or in a 'majority'.
(Which honestly is a PATHETIC reason to make ANY purchase.)

X-D

(btw, yes I'm an iPhone owner)
 
Jcoz said:
Ok but didn't someone say that CMD + Drag does the same for files?
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Yes. Which was also mentioned that cmd+drag is very inconvenient and a hassle to deal with the majority of the time (or at least in my opinion.)

Why Apple just doesn't just enable cmd-x in Finder is beyond me. It would make my life just a little easier at times.
 
Woohooo!

Awesome to see Android on the top with Windows. It's about time opensource started taking off. Enough of this Apple closed source junk.
 
cvaldes said:
I predict that in 2015, iOS handset users will still have the highest customer satisfaction and that Apple will be walking away with the lion's share of the smartphone industry's profits.

Meaning there will be more grumpy non-iPhone users and more grumpy HTC/Nokia/Samsung/Motorola/LG shareholders.
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Highly doubtful the other companies and react to growing customer needs faster then apple can. I think in 2015 windows phone 7 could have a good run. Depends on some factors. One of which is RIM. If RIM slips a little more its enterprise clients will jump right to WP 7. As an android lover I know it is not ready for Enterprise and iOS is seen to be more of a novalty smart phone by the greater tech world. I am not going to lie a Blackberry bold 9700 looks like the real deal when it comes to getting work done on your cell phone. Everything else looks like a toy in comparison.
 
abort, retry, fail, faster, safer, more secure....snore

hilarious! balmer's standing around somewhere squirting himself into a false sense of security. microsoft is a dinosaur and about as hip and cool as an 8track.
 
hilarious! balmer's standing around somewhere squirting himself into a false sense of security. microsoft is a dinosaur and about as hip and cool as an 8track.
 
dwman said:
Here were their illuminating predictions in Jan 2010. :rolleyes:

http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS22176610

Key findings from a new IDC market outlook include the following:

Symbian will retain its leadership position worldwide throughout the forecast period. Due primarily to the strength of Nokia in markets outside of the United States, Symbian continues to lead all other mobile operating systems.
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Love this little gem from that press release:

Shipments of Linux-powered devices will trend down due to greater emphasis on the Android platform...
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I'm having a hard time parsing the logic behind that. It's a little like saying shipments of OS X-powered devices will trend down because of greater emphasis on the Mac platform. I wonder how many investors reading this stuff realize how profoundly clueless the people behind it really are. :rolleyes:
 
res1233 said:
UHM... iOS is far more open-source than windows is. Nice try... Android might be more open-source though, I'm not sure.
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What exactly is your definition of "open source" anyway? There aren't really degrees of being open source. Something is either open source or it isn't. The code for iOS is not open source and so isn't any more or less open than Windows.

Some of the components that ship with iOS are open source (Webkit being the most notable and the one that gets the most press.) But make no mistake: iOS is not open source. At all.

That's not to make a qualitative judgment about iOS versus any other mobile OS, BTW. This annoying marketing crap coming from Google and others lately that push the notion of open source somehow being inherently a better way to go for anything is irritating. There's no need to defend iOS for being closed. Not everyone thinks that's a dirty word. It's a better mobile OS than any of the open source alternatives and there's no reason to be shy about it being proprietary. It is what it is.
 
OllyW said:
Some people said the same thing back in 2009 when analysts said that Android would overtake the iPhone by 2012. :D
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Nobody said that back in 2009, because there were no Android phones to speak of. This of course changed in 2010, and pretty much everyone with half a brain knew that Android would overtake iOS in market share eventually through sheer availability of handsets and carriers. Maybe 3 people on this forum would deny it, but who cares about them.
Now this story is a bit different. Nokia WP7 handsets aren't even announced yet. Most likely they won't have one this year. Instead there are many things that can go wrong. So far, WP7 has been a let-down. And every day they don't catch up on the competition makes it less likely that the platform will succeed.
 
Wow, the natives are restless. IDC are just haters.

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Maybe nokia does have a good stand in those countries but when it comes to smart phones they're already loosIng so is MSFT I don't c what changes I live in the states and am brazilean me and my uncle take about 10 iPhones a year to brazil sell them for 1200 US dollars we can barely make the airport one time I sold one on the plane!!! Ppl who buy smart phones have money and at least in brazil they're either getting a iPhone or a feature phone(prob nokia).... No one in my town even knows about winPhone 7 believe me I've tried to sell those.... Not much interest for android either....
 
AidenShaw said:
Perhaps you should spend some time looking at the facts - there are non-Android Linux-based mobile systems out there.

If you knew that, the IDC comment is spot on.
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Not sure what you're on about but the quote implies that Android is not a Linux-based mobile OS which is factually incorrect. I realize it's not a pure Linux but it is very definitely Linux-based (or more specifically derived from the Linux kernel.) It just sounds to me like the author, who differentiates Linux from Android, doesn't understand that.
 
LOL - that is ridiculous.

I think they meant that the number of windows phone viruses will top the number of iphone viruses.
 
The iPhone has gone from 0% market share in 2007 to 17.25% in 2010. Based on my projections they will reach 100% market share by 2024. That about sums up how ridiculous this article is.

Thees predictions are looking 4 years ahead. 4 years ago the iPhone was not even shipping yet! I dare anyone to accurately predict the tech world 4 years in advance. The history of technology seems to be more than anything else dominated by failed predictions. Remember a few years ago when Microsoft predicted that a typical computer running Windows Vista would operate at 6GHz? They failed to even see one year ahead of time when Intel and others would hit the power wall.

Microsoft is expected to recommend that the "average" Longhorn PC feature a dual-core CPU running at 4 to 6GHz; a minimum of 2 gigs of RAM; up to a terabyte of storage; a 1 Gbit, built-in, Ethernet-wired port and an 802.11g wireless link; and a graphics processor that runs three times faster than those on the market today.
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http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/operating_systems/longhorn_to_steal_limelight_at_winhec.html
 
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Since windows phones will be the dreaded free phone, I can see how this will happen.

I never wanted to be a member of the unwashed masses anyway.
:rolleyes:
 
roadbloc said:
Now read through the rest of the posts after that and discover that Finder does not support Cut and Paste.
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There are plugins for that. Works fine on my Mac.

God, you people pretend as if there weren't any solutions to common problems out there. It's nice if certain features are there out of the box, but people who actually miss CUT+Paste are smart enough to install a simple tool.


Personally, I like the XP+Win7 Explorer better than the Finder.
However, both of them could very well do with tabs.
But you may guess: there are plugins for that. Good ones.
I wouldn't wanna miss that feature!
 
SockRolid said:
Oracle's lawsuit against Google is airtight. Android's use of a non-compliant virtual machine (the Dalvik VM) is a clear violation of the Java license agreement. And there's legal precedent: Microsoft paid Sun $20 million back in 2001 when Sun successfully sued them for trying to "embrace, extend, and extinguish" Java.

Google will lose the lawsuit. And nobody has ever accused Larry Ellison of being Mr. Nice Guy. He doesn't want money this time. He wants to protect the intellectual property Oracle acquired from Sun. He wants all copies of Android to be "impounded and destroyed" (a direct quote from text of the suit.) Because if Google is allowed to plagiarize and distort Java, others will follow. Ellison is making an example of Google, and it's going to be a law school textbook IP case study for the ages.

Soon Android will be off the market while Google is forced to retool their JVM to be 100% Java compliant. Google is already scrambling to get rid of their non-compliant Dalvik VM. They actually hired James Gosling, the "inventor" of Java, so they've got religion now.

And, although money isn't the motivating factor behind the Oracle lawsuit, it is a factor nonetheless. Google will end up paying Oracle a license fee for each and every generic me-too Android iPhone clone and iPad clone that their hardware partners can mash up. And that erases Android's only advantage over WP7. Android will no longer be free.

So, when Android is off the market, Nokia's WP7 phones will have a chance to avoid becoming KIN 2.0. There will be a window of opportunity for Nokia and Microsoft to build up a little market share. Some corporations and consumers will buy Nokia WP7 phones just because Nokia and Microsoft are "too big to die." (And just when Google thinks it's safe, when they've implemented a 100% compliant JVM, Apple can sue them for GUI patent infringement. But that's another story...)

In the meantime, both WP7 and Nokia will have zero market presence. For all of 2011 and part of 2012. That's an eternity.
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Even if Google loses any patent lawsuit, the phone wont go off the market.
 
Assimilate. Resistance is futile.

VenusianSky said:
Smartphones will be obsolete by 2015. Telepathy is the future of telecommunications :p :D
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You're being sarcastic of course, but telecommunication behind the ear chip implants by 2020-25, and the full "Borg experience" 10-15 years after that (which if Apple's the leader would make us "iBorgs," now that's an actually possible real story.

(Implanted phones were predicted, btw, in a '60's James Coburn action/spy movie "The President's Analyst." Now THAT's a long-term projection....)
 
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