If Apple releases a 16" MacBook Pro later this year, how much money do you think it will cost?

[eulslix]

I think your calculations are slightly off. The display panel size is currently 33.25 x 20.8 cm. The effective display bezels are 1 cm to left and right, about 1.3cm to the bottom and a whopping 2cm on the top. If they just reduce each bezel by 0.6 cm (making 4mm left and right bezels which should be absolutely doable), the panel size jumps to 16.1". Thats within the same display assembly form factor. Assuming leaked resolution of 3072×1920 is correct, that would give us a 227 PPI panel, which incidentally is exactly the PPI of the MacBook Air.

And I don't think that anyone argues that there won't be any changes to the chassis. After all, it's expected to be a redesign.

If there is indeed 1cm on each side, then I stand corrected. According to the official site its supposed to be 34,93cm wide. Minus the 33,25cm that would result in 1,7cm, or 0,85cm per side. So that's 1,5mm less than in your measurements, which explains exactly where the difference between my 2,5 and your 4mm came from

 

[leman]

If there is indeed 1cm on each side, then I stand corrected. According to the official side its supposed to be 34,93cm wide. Minus the 33,25cm that would result in 1,7cm, or 0,85cm per side. So that's 1,5mm less than in your measurements, which explains exactly where the difference between my 2,5 and your 4mm came from

I measured with with a ruler again, the distance from the panel edge to the outer aluminium edge is somewhere between 9 and 10mm, but my ruler is crappy and I am not really good at this kind fo stuff, so it could indeed be 7.5mm. I guess we'll see soon enough? I suppose nobody will complain if they increase the width of the laptop by 5mm or so to be honest.

 

[fokmik]

Yes, increasing the chassis a little bit more is a must. Why?
1) better cooling than current 15”
2) to sustain the same 10h battery life with bigger display, they need to fit extra battery. Probably around 90w
3) fit the logical 16.4” and not 16”

 

[citycentral821]

Full loaded one should be 3999

 

[danwells]

With the 4 TB storage option, it'll be more than that...

 

[Hieveryone]

Yes, increasing the chassis a little bit more is a must. Why?
1) better cooling than current 15”
2) to sustain the same 10h battery life with bigger display, they need to fit extra battery. Probably around 90w
3) fit the logical 16.4” and not 16”

I would not be interested if it was bigger. My current 15" is big enough

I want thinner and small foot print and lighter for a 15" but it's Tim's world not mine haha

 

[fokmik]

I would not be interested if it was bigger. My current 15" is big enough

I want thinner and small foot print and lighter for a 15" but it's Tim's world not mine haha

if 15" is too big than go 13". No need for lighter and thiner 16" to compromise the battery the thermals just to be a little bit thiner and ligther. Again here, we are talking about the 16+ macbook pro and not about 15"
I think you will be very happy with LG Gram 17" or 15" since you don't care about performance

 

[MrGunnyPT]

Honestly I'm looking to get the base model...

But it really needs to have a new redesigned keyboard I am really tired of sending my MacBook Pro to repair every 3 months due to the dust collecting under it.

I'm also hoping for Navi 14 to be available on these machines...

 

[skaertus]

This may depend a lot on Apple's strategy.

If Apple intends to replace the current 15-inch models with new 16-inch ones, then its price will be in about the same range, perhaps just a little more expensive (from $2499 onwards or something similar).

If Apple intends to release the 16-inch version as the new model, but keep current 15-inch ones still available, then the price will be significantly higher ($2999 or $3499).

Now, if Apple plans to put the 16-inch in a new category to live alongside the 15-inch model, then we are talking about an even higher price (some $3499 to $3999 or more).

 

[MrGunnyPT]

This may depend a lot on Apple's strategy.

If Apple intends to replace the current 15-inch models with new 16-inch ones, then its price will be in about the same range, perhaps just a little more expensive (from $2499 onwards or something similar).

If Apple intends to release the 16-inch version as the new model, but keep current 15-inch ones still available, then the price will be significantly higher ($2999 or $3499).

Now, if Apple plans to put the 16-inch in a new category to live alongside the 15-inch model, then we are talking about an even higher price (some $3499 to $3999 or more).

Jeez at anything above 3k

 

[skaertus]

Jeez at anything above 3k

If Apple can charge $1,449 for an iPhone and $1,899 for an iPad, it can certainly ask for $3,000 for a 16” MacBook Pro.

It is really sad that Tim Cook chose to raise the prices of every product, and create a market segmentation that was previously non-existent in Apple’s line-up.

 

[mragarg]

My prediction:

Base 16":
- $2,999 (maybe $3,099)
- 16 GB RAM
- 256 GB SSD
- 560X GPU
- either 6-core i9/i7

Let's hope that these tariff wars aren't going to make Apple rethink/adjust their pricing.

 

[eulslix]

My prediction:

Base 16":
- $2,999 (maybe $3,099)
- 16 GB RAM
- 256 GB SSD
- 560X GPU
- either 6-core i9/i7

Let's hope that these tariff wars aren't going to make Apple rethink/adjust their pricing.

not gonna happen, since it would be a worse value proposition than the current macbooks...

 

[mragarg]

not gonna happen, since it would be a worse value proposition than the current macbooks...

So do you think it'll be higher specs? I'm somewhat confident in the CPU and RAM being those values.

 

[MrGunnyPT]

If Apple can charge $1,449 for an iPhone and $1,899 for an iPad, it can certainly ask for $3,000 for a 16” MacBook Pro.

It is really sad that Tim Cook chose to raise the prices of every product, and create a market segmentation that was previously non-existent in Apple’s line-up.

Yeah I actually know tons of people who were drove off from Apple products because of pricing.

 

[eulslix]

So do you think it'll be higher specs? I'm somewhat confident in the CPU and RAM being those values.

I'm fairly confident it will be a redesign with a couple cool improvements (keyboard, screen, faceid, ...) + either of these

1) same specs as the current top base config (i9, 16GB, 512GB, 560X) -> same price, 2800$
2) higher specs (8core i9, 32GB, 512GB, Navi) -> 3500$?
3) a completely redesigned Pro level machine with Xeon wizardry and what not, composed of very expensive components that many of us won't necessarily need and features where it's difficult to put a price tag on (think TouchBar, Afterburner, T2, ...) -> everything is possible, guess up to 5000$ base config?

Of course they might surprise us with a really cool new feature that might drive the price a bit upward

 

[bill-p]

It's Apple.

I used to not be so cynical about them, but again... they just introduced a $1000 monitor stand.

So if you think they will price the 16-inch MacBook lower because... "it's a worse value proposition than the 15", then... I'm sorry to say but I think you are wrong. Apple has never ever introduced anything that is even remotely close to being a "good value proposition" at least for the past 5 years.

So it won't be anything less than $2999.

Hell, we would be "lucky" if it was "just" $2999 and they did not gimp any of the specs.

This 16" MacBook is NOT a replacement for the 15". It's most likely a new addition.

Also, as a reminder... base configuration of the Mac Pro has 256GB SSD. And this is a $6000 computer. Fifty nine, ninety nine. Six. Thousand. Dollars.

...and it still has a 256GB SSD.

So, again, I think I will have to remind you guys to check your reality.

 

[mragarg]

It's Apple.

I used to not be so cynical about them, but again... they just introduced a $1000 monitor stand.

So if you think they will price the 16-inch MacBook lower because... "it's a worse value proposition than the 15", then... I'm sorry to say but I think you are wrong. Apple has never ever introduced anything that is even remotely close to being a "good value proposition" at least for the past 5 years.

So it won't be anything less than $2999.

Hell, we would be "lucky" if it was "just" $2999 and they did not gimp any of the specs.

This 16" MacBook is NOT a replacement for the 15". It's most likely a new addition.

Also, as a reminder... base configuration of the Mac Pro has 256GB SSD. And this is a $6000 computer. Fifty nine, ninety nine. Six. Thousand. Dollars.

...and it still has a 256GB SSD.

So, again, I think I will have to remind you guys to check your reality.

That's why I expected the specs to not be as good as the higher end base model 15", knowing how Apple gives the lowest memory sizes for a high price. It's marketing, get people to pay JUST a few hundred more for substantially more memory. (i.e. iPhone from 64GB to 256GB)

 

[eulslix]

It's Apple.

I used to not be so cynical about them, but again... they just introduced a $1000 monitor stand.

So if you think they will price the 16-inch MacBook lower because... "it's a worse value proposition than the 15", then... I'm sorry to say but I think you are wrong. Apple has never ever introduced anything that is even remotely close to being a "good value proposition" at least for the past 5 years.

So it won't be anything less than $2999.

Hell, we would be "lucky" if it was "just" $2999 and they did not gimp any of the specs.

This 16" MacBook is NOT a replacement for the 15". It's most likely a new addition.

Also, as a reminder... base configuration of the Mac Pro has 256GB SSD. And this is a $6000 computer. Fifty nine, ninety nine. Six. Thousand. Dollars.

...and it still has a 256GB SSD.

So, again, I think I will have to remind you guys to check your reality.

That is simply not true. Apple may come up with stuff that seems ridiculously overpriced, but that’s partially because it cant be put easily into relation. The value proposition among their products always stayed consistent, relative to each other. If they need to raise their prices, they always find some new value proposition to justify that. In the case of the MBP it was the Touchbar. Nobody can put a price tag on it and that’s why it works.

The Mac Pro is a really bad example. It packs some serious punch into it which is more than worth it. Reducing your whole argument to the 256GB, which from what I heard is something that customers actually asked for, doesn’t do it any justice. If its too expensive for you, that’s fine. You’re most likely not the target audience, and neither am I. But for the right people, it seems to be the right value proposition.

But I cant remember a point where Apple started to sell objectively less for more, which is what you suggest here.

 

[Hieveryone]

Honestly I'm looking to get the base model...

But it really needs to have a new redesigned keyboard I am really tired of sending my MacBook Pro to repair every 3 months due to the dust collecting under it.

I'm also hoping for Navi 14 to be available on these machines...

How long does it take to get the computer back? I would have a hard time without my computer

 

[MimicBunion972]

My prediction:

Base 16":
- $2,999 (maybe $3,099)
- 16 GB RAM
- 256 GB SSD
- 560X GPU
- either 6-core i9/i7

Let's hope that these tariff wars aren't going to make Apple rethink/adjust their pricing.

I think this is reasonable estimate for the base 16".
The tariff wouldn't hurt as much as you think. Tariff is applied to import price, not retail price. Given that Apple often have >50% profit margin on MBPs, the import price for this base model would be $1500, the added tariff is $150. You only pay 5% extra, not so bad.

 

[danwells]

I'd be very surprised to see the old Polaris GPUs make an appearance - I am quite sure (although without a leak to back it up - I've just watched Apple long enough - they'd have a tough time selling something that had both the CPUs released in May and a 3 year old GPU) that it'll be either:

Vega 16 standard, Vega 20 upgrade (assuming Navi isn't ready)
Vega 16 or 20 standard, Navi upgrade
All-Navi (smaller Navi standard, upgrade to a larger one)

I'm seeing this as a "Retina-style" launch, where the initial configuration is relatively high end (and correspondingly expensive), and lower-end versions show up at the next annual upgrade. If I'm right, there will be one base configuration with CTO options, and it'll have one of the 8-core CPUs (flip a coin about whether it's the 9880H with the 9980HK available CTO, or whether they go straight to the 9980HK). It could start anywhere from 16/512 to 32/1TB (my money's on 16/1TB, but that's a guess).

 

[MrGunnyPT]

How long does it take to get the computer back? I would have a hard time without my computer

A week.. I use the company sponsored HP errr

I'd be very surprised to see the old Polaris GPUs make an appearance - I am quite sure (although without a leak to back it up - I've just watched Apple long enough - they'd have a tough time selling something that had both the CPUs released in May and a 3 year old GPU) that it'll be either:

Vega 16 standard, Vega 20 upgrade (assuming Navi isn't ready)
Vega 16 or 20 standard, Navi upgrade
All-Navi (smaller Navi standard, upgrade to a larger one)

I'm seeing this as a "Retina-style" launch, where the initial configuration is relatively high end (and correspondingly expensive), and lower-end versions show up at the next annual upgrade. If I'm right, there will be one base configuration with CTO options, and it'll have one of the 8-core CPUs (flip a coin about whether it's the 9880H with the 9980HK available CTO, or whether they go straight to the 9980HK). It could start anywhere from 16/512 to 32/1TB (my money's on 16/1TB, but that's a guess).

Well I'm really hoping for Navi 14.. Worse case scenario Vega on the base model...

 

[richinaus]

A week.. I use the company sponsored HP errr



Well I'm really hoping for Navi 14.. Worse case scenario Vega on the base model...

I hope for Navi but believe it will be a Vega 20 variant. The GPU is the single most important element to me in the MBP and am becoming more and more wary of buying one with Nvidia currently destroying AMB in the mobile GPU department.

This October could be very damaging to my CC, with a new iPhone, ipad, watch and 16” MBP all looking to be bought !

 

[MrGunnyPT]

I hope for Navi but believe it will be a Vega 20 variant. The GPU is the single most important element to me in the MBP and am becoming more and more wary of buying one with Nvidia currently destroying AMB in the mobile GPU department.

This October could be very damaging to my CC, with a new iPhone, ipad, watch and 16” MBP all looking to be bought !

I know what you mean.. GPU is also important since when I'm on trips I like to occasionally play some games or when I'm at work I link up with 2x 4k displays.

I'm alo getting the iPad Pro!