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If The iPhone 5 Really Looks Like This, Apple May Be Screwed

Aidoneus said:
Let us know when your Android phone gets a virus.
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Can't say my 2+ year old droid incredible has ever gotten a virus. Not sure exactly what you're getting at. Any electronic device is vulnerable if the user is not careful.

I still haven't grown to like the new iphone if indeed it is the new iphone. I feel they are gimping themselves only going to a 4inch screen. 4.3 is practically the minimum for smart phones nowadays. And for people that don't want the 4.3 or bigger that's why the 4s will still be available even after the iphone 5 is released.
 
Hate to say it but after all these reports and photos floating everywhere, I have a very strong feeling this is the iPhone 5. While the case is a little difference I was hoping for a slightly wider screen. It makes a difference when viewing media and non-mobile web sites.

I thought about moving to Android. But, I have too much invested in the App Store and iTunes. It would make no sense for me to move JUST for a larger screen.
 
Sedrick said:
All the complaints around here (and I've never seen so many for a new iPhone model) are mostly based on the half-assed attempt at enlarging the screen size to a modern, usable size but rather just stretching it vertically which gives you almost no benefit of a proper 4" screen.
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Speak for yourself. For me, a wider screen will not increase usability in any way. But it will make the phone quite a bit larger, which, in case you haven't noticed, many people don't like. My only complaint is that it will be a little bit taller.

And what the **** is a 'modern, usable size' :rolleyes:

Watch Samsung et al. get towards 16:9 for almost all of their smartphones as soon as a 16:9 iPhone is released.
 
spiderman0616 said:
The Android defense force is out in droves lately!!!! The closer we get to the new iPhone release, the worse it's going to get. Especially after this story today:

http://blogs.barrons.com/techtrader...googles-android-as-smartphone-market-shrinks/

I think smartphone market share is a very fluid statistic, but this new iPhone is going to be a major hit and will only help Apple's cause.
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You're just as bad. Instead of adding anything of value you just say anybody who disagrees is a troll.

If Apple releases this phone with a taller screen then there will be a large portion of the media that turns on them. Not because they have a hidden Android agenda but because this design is weak, compromised, and just plain bad.
 
I say if they DO come out with a all around larger iPhone (pray, pray) and you dont like the bigger size, keep the iPhone 4S. They'll be still selling them for at least a year and think how cheap youll get them for.


Hopefully Apple heard how disapointed many of the iPhone fans were when they came out with the 4S and not somthing new/different.
 
MBX said:
By Business Insider: http://www.businessinsider.com/if-the-iphone-5-really-looks-like-this-apple-may-be-screwed-2012-7

And I agree.

I will switch to Android/ Samsung if this is the next iPhone. It looks really dated/ old and small now and i'm getting tired of the iPhone 4, iPhone 4s and possibly iPhone 5 looking all the same. No thanks.

iOS6 looks old too. How come Apple isn't doing more innovation? Still the fixed icon grid while Google + even Microsoft have done more cool stuff in the mobile front.
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While I'm sure Apple will sell plenty of them, this will be a huge flop by their standards and will be a major reason for the continued decrease in their smartphone market share. The vast majority of people that I know want bigger brighter screens and this idea of just making the phone taller is just nutty. I still can't believe they're actually going to do this, but I'm losing hope that they will actually come out with a phone I will want to come back to.
 
It blows my mind that the CEO of Business Insider is this stupid.

For starters, he talks up the SIII screen and how it's so much better and yet he fails to mention that it sports an amoled screen which are terrible at producting whites and in general are far inferior to IPS screens.

He also seems to be utterly obsessed that the next iPhone will not be a complete redesign. I think it's horse**** to believe that consumers will pass on the next iPhone because it resembles the current iPhone. I think that is utterly ridiculous and yet I see comments sections of tech sites and this forum with members groaning that it looks too similar.

All the iPhone needs is improvements. And that's exactly what we are getting. (A larger screen, faster cellular networks, thinner, a superior backing.) And that's just the elements that are a given at this point. We will of course also see an improvment to the camera and maybe a stronger speaker.

I think people are just being absurd at this point. If you want a wider phone, go Android. If you want something to be drastically different looking, go Android. Apple is smart to simply make a better iPhone. APPLE KNOWS WHAT IT'S DOING. If they felt a need to completely change the look and feel of the iPhone then of course they would. Obviously they don't feel they need to, and I agree. All the people bitching about how the iPhone hasn't changed all that much looks wise from the first gen model seem to not realize that there is a reason for that. And that reason is that Apple nailed it with the home button and other elements that remain to this day.

Anyways, end of rant. I won't be replying to direct responses so knock yourself out saying I'm wrong. I'm am so tired of these stupid complaints. "It looks too similar." "It's getting old and stale." All that matters in the end is the user experience, not the fact that it has to look drastically differrent so that you are happy to purchase a new shiny smartphone.
 
daechi said:
You're just as bad. Instead of adding anything of value you just say anybody who disagrees is a troll.

If Apple releases this phone with a taller screen then there will be a large portion of the media that turns on them. Not because they have a hidden Android agenda but because this design is weak, compromised, and just plain bad.
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In your opinion. The market will decide if you're right, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
 
Making the phone only taller and keeping the same form factor just feels lazy IMO. With so many people switching to the Galaxy S3, which has a 4.8" screen... It would seem obvious that plenty of people do not consider it to be too large.

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Sedrick said:
All the complaints around here (and I've never seen so many for a new iPhone model) are mostly based on the half-assed attempt at enlarging the screen size to a modern, usable size but rather just stretching it vertically which gives you almost no benefit of a proper 4" screen.

If Apple had/will increase the screen size proportionally in both directions, the complaints around here would be half. The other half being the next iPhone appears to look just like the last one.

What's funny, though, is we'll all look the fool if Apple does a proper redesign this year and the leaks we've seen were for an abandoned 4S design.
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I agree 100%, keep it as 3:2 and make it bigger. I want to see things larger, not see more content as the same size as before.

I am hoping they are fooling all of us, but it is really hard to hold onto that hope.
 
I wouldn't go so far as to say Apple is screwed. Screwed in what way? Maybe they'll sell slightly less than usual? Maybe. I think they'll be more or less fine.

The only thing I'd say is, it's time to stop touting Apple as the most innovative tech company in the world. You can't keep calling them that, yet accept that they're rehashing what is essentially a two year old design.

No other company would get away with that. I'm sure the Apple-faithfuls would be the first to scrutinize the competition's lack of originality or innovation if this happened elsewhere.

Plus, I think people are just afraid that whatever design they come up with, it's likely going to be a two-year commitment.
 
LOL, every iPhone iteration, we hear the same crap from the Android camp.

Apple is soooo dead :rolleyes:

For me, the iPhone 4/4S size and design is almost perfect, so I don't mind if Apple is sticking to something close to it.

-t
 
onthecouchagain said:
I wouldn't go so far as to say Apple is screwed. Screwed in what way? Maybe they'll sell slightly less than usual? Maybe. I think they'll be more or less fine.

The only thing I'd say is, it's time to stop touting Apple as the most innovative tech company in the world. You can't keep calling them that, yet accept that they're rehashing what is essentially a two year old design.

No other company would get away with that. I'm sure the Apple-faithfuls would be the first to scrutinize the competition's lack of originality or innovation if this happened elsewhere.

Plus, I think people are just afraid that whatever design they come up with, it's likely going to be a two-year commitment.
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Nobody is doing anything truly innovative with the smartphone form factor. Yeah, this one is curvier, that one is more rugged, this one is metal, that one is plastic, blah blah blah. But who is really revolutionizing the way smartphones LOOK? Nobody. Because there is a standard way to do it right now. I'm not sure what else people really need.
 
I LOL because the iPhone 4 design is beautiful and the Samsung Galaxy III is boring as hell typical plastic android device. Its so plain jane, they aren't impressing anyone with its design, they even said themselves that its focus was on the software. So for this article to claim its jaw dropping cracks me up.
 
onthecouchagain said:
The only thing I'd say is, it's time to stop touting Apple as the most innovative tech company in the world. You can't keep calling them that, yet accept that they're rehashing what is essentially a two year old design.
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Innovation and success are not always directly correlated.

Don't you think it's funny that even going back to the first iPhone, Apple was ALWAYS accused of not being innovative. Others always tried to "outinnovate" Apple. Well, Apple still won the smart phone "war".

Most customers care more about a product that's easy and intuitive to use, rather then the innovative, feature-loaded but crappy executed product.

-t
 
AlphaHumanus said:
why "innovate" when you already dominate? ;)
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Did you get that quote from someone over at RIM?

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turtle777 said:
Innovation and success are not always directly correlated.

Don't you think it's funny that even going back to the first iPhone, Apple was ALWAYS accused of not being innovative. Others always tried to "outinnovate" Apple. Well, Apple still won the smart phone "war".

Most customers care more about a product that's easy and intuitive to use, rather then the innovative, feature-loaded but crappy executed product.

-t
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That's fine. So you agree we should stop touting Apple as the most innovate tech company in the world. My sentiments exactly.
 
onthecouchagain said:
The only thing I'd say is, it's time to stop touting Apple as the most innovative tech company in the world. You can't keep calling them that, yet accept that they're rehashing what is essentially a two year old design.
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Everyone's rehashing what's essentially a five year old design. Apple lead, the rest followed. Why wouldn't I think of them as the most innovative tech company?
 
spiderman0616 said:
Nobody is doing anything truly innovative with the smartphone form factor. Yeah, this one is curvier, that one is more rugged, this one is metal, that one is plastic, blah blah blah. But who is really revolutionizing the way smartphones LOOK? Nobody. Because there is a standard way to do it right now. I'm not sure what else people really need.
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Maybe the competition is innovating, maybe they aren't.

The point is, no one touts HTC or Samsung or Nokia as "the most innovate tech company in the world". No one boasts this moniker more than Apple, and Apple-faithfuls. Apple themselves constantly say it's the core of what they do; they innovate.

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chambone said:
Everyone's rehashing what's essentially a five year old design. Apple lead, the rest followed. Why wouldn't I think of them as the most innovative tech company?
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If the Galaxy SIII looked as close to the Galaxy SI as the rumored iPhone 5 looks to the iPhone 4 (which is two years apart, just like the GSIII/SI), the Apple-faithfuls would have a field day with Samsung.

Or any other tech company in the world that pulled the same thing. Which is fine. All I'm saying is, it ought to be consistent if Apple does the same thing.
 
chambone said:
When traffic to your site's declining, you can either write quality articles, or start trolling. The latter is obviously the easiest.
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So if BI publishes an article next week about how amazing the iPhone 5 is going to do, your response is going to be the same right?
 
I like and will probably get ones my contract expires around lunch time. But, hey' I like my 4 month 4s, too. Call me wierd' I don't know.

HD to get my wife an android last weekend. She wanted a physical keyboard. S she go a droid 4, I think it is. I hate it. Too big, poor battery life.

My 4 s is a phone first, an easy way to check emails and an iPod. Not a gamer and when I surf the net I pull out the iPad.
 
onthecouchagain said:
If the Galaxy SIII looked as close to the Galaxy SI as the rumored iPhone 5 looks to the iPhone 4 (which is two years apart, just like the GSIII/SI), the Apple-faithfuls would have a field day with Samsung.

Or any other tech company in the world that pulled the same thing. Which is fine. All I'm saying is, it ought to be consistent if Apple does the same thing.
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Why? Apple came up with the multi touch/gesture concept for smartphones, and an OS that was way more advanced than anything else at the time. They innovated. Everybody else copied, and nobody has come up with something better that's radically different. And now you're telling me I shouldn't think of Apple as an innovator?

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Rennir said:
So if BI publishes an article next week about how amazing the iPhone 5 is going to do, your response is going to be the same right?
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You bet. Such an article would be just as biased as this one.
 
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