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I do not see how any cell phone will make a giant leap in features until we see a giant leap in technology. Battery and screen tech have not improved. There is some stuff on the horizon but it will be a few years before we see anything to get excited about.
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I think it was much more easy to have "a vision" when iPhones were just starting out. Those days are gone and the big leaps in technology have slowed down with all the cell phone makers.
I can’t actually remember the last big feature that was exciting on a mobile phone? I’ve just bought iPhones because I knew what I was getting and I knew they were reliable and capable for all basic tasks. I think some of the Android companies have been more exciting but the combination of crap software means it’s not in the slightest bit enticing for me.
 
I can’t actually remember the last big feature that was exciting on a mobile phone? I’ve just bought iPhones because I knew what I was getting and I knew they were reliable and capable for all basic tasks. I think some of the Android companies have been more exciting but the combination of crap software means it’s not in the slightest bit enticing for me.

Have to admit that I have not got that excited either. My MAX was a pretty big deal as I wanted a larger screen and keyboard in the field. Unless we see that new "bump" in features, for the first time I will pass on the new phone and keep my MAX for another year. Should be on 5G by then.

I still remember the exciting days long ago but today's introductions are not the same anymore to me.
 
Have to admit that I have not got that excited either. My MAX was a pretty big deal as I wanted a larger screen and keyboard in the field. Unless we see that new "bump" in features, for the first time I will pass on the new phone and keep my MAX for another year. Should be on 5G by then.

I still remember the exciting days long ago but today's introductions are not the same anymore to me.

I can’t get excited for the new phones at all. My 8+ was a fairly big jump from the 6S I had but it was a transitional upgrade for me. I think phones have just become tools that we are all to familiar with. Some of the guys on here are still very enthusiastic but I feel like I’ve lost that enthusiasm. It’s probably why I’m never likely to buy a newly released iPhone again.
 
I can’t get excited for the new phones at all. My 8+ was a fairly big jump from the 6S I had but it was a transitional upgrade for me. I think phones have just become tools that we are all to familiar with. Some of the guys on here are still very enthusiastic but I feel like I’ve lost that enthusiasm. It’s probably why I’m never likely to buy a newly released iPhone again.


Nothing wrong with the 8+, still a great phone and if it does everything you need . . . .

I find every year I get older the technology fails to excite a bit more. Just want to get done what I need with the least amount of trouble.
 
Let’s face it new features or not we are more than likely to use our phones the same and the same apps regardless
That’s the thing, I do exactly the same things on my current phone that I did on my last like most I suppose. The screen is slightly bigger and I think the dual camera is the only new feature I use regularly. Beyond that it’s the same iPhone experience for me.
 
I can’t actually remember the last big feature that was exciting on a mobile phone? I’ve just bought iPhones because I knew what I was getting and I knew they were reliable and capable for all basic tasks. I think some of the Android companies have been more exciting but the combination of crap software means it’s not in the slightest bit enticing for me.

1) Face ID, 2) Larger OLED Display, 3) Wireless Charging, 4) Longer Battery Life, 5) No Headphone Jack

Those were the killer features that got me out of my iPhone 6 and into an iPhone X. Doesn't matter to the 50,000,000 people who upgraded to the X in the last year that these features were available in other smartphones as we're iPhone people.

The headphone jack was a pleasant surprise. Took Apple the courage to eliminate a seemingly necessary feature to prove the point that it wasn't actually necessary. Bluetooth headphones are my second-favorite piece of hardware bought last year, right after the iPhone X and right before the HomePod.
 
Behind Jobs was a great Team of Designers who made the IPhone. Jobs gave just the Initial Vision Point.

The Market all in all is supersaturated.

No matter if they are Android or IOS devices.

Same is Happening with the PC Market since some Years.

And that won't change very quickly, and it will stagnate for a few more years. The only hope that remains is that the sales will show the manufacturers that they can't ask for a fortune... and that the prices will be corrected downwards.
 
1) Face ID, 2) Larger OLED Display, 3) Wireless Charging, 4) Longer Battery Life, 5) No Headphone Jack

Those were the killer features that got me out of my iPhone 6 and into an iPhone X. Doesn't matter to the 50,000,000 people who upgraded to the X in the last year that these features were available in other smartphones as we're iPhone people.

The headphone jack was a pleasant surprise. Took Apple the courage to eliminate a seemingly necessary feature to prove the point that it wasn't actually necessary. Bluetooth headphones are my second-favorite piece of hardware bought last year, right after the iPhone X and right before the HomePod.

None of those were exciting for me I have to say. I was also aware my iPhone could pair with Bluetooth headphones years before the jack disappeared.
 
Thinking about it, if Apple wanted to improve something, how about them giving Siri the improvements they were talking about. Have watched the others grow while Siri seems to be stagnant.
Siri is embarrassing of late and dare I say it’s absolute crap on the Apple Watch. I was cooking earlier and asked for a timer 5 times before it did it after telling me to ‘hang on’ and fail. My Echo did it first time and with background noise. Apple need to pull their socks up as they are losing the voice assistance race by a big margin right now.
 
That’s not why it’s failing. China is why it’s failing. The phones are fine.

Sales are down in China from Chinese consumers having a plethora of more cost effect phone options from other manufacturers. If the iPhone were more affordable to the masses they might be more compelled to upgrade, or enter the ecosystem.

Sales were also effected to a far greater extent than estimated by the battery replacement program. Millions of 6s’ and 7’s lifespans extended by this program. An iPhone 6s or 7 runs iOS 12 just fine for the majority of “average consumers.” :apple:
 
I do not see how any cell phone will make a giant leap in features until we see a giant leap in technology. Battery and screen tech have not improved. There is some stuff on the horizon but it will be a few years before we see anything to get excited about.
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I think it was much more easy to have "a vision" when iPhones were just starting out. Those days are gone and the big leaps in technology have slowed down with all the cell phone makers.

That is the precisely the thinking that lacks vision. Steve Jobs didn't follow others. He made a product that others didn't think of. That is the type of innovation that is missing.
 
Timbo is not the Dictatorial Galactic Overlord of Apple. Putting it 'all' on him is a touch naive.

There are many different factors in the why/when/how much of product and pricing. He is one (big!) cog of a big company.
amen. I'm so tired of people saying it's Tim's fault. Sure he has the final say, but really these phones are still great. FaceID was a pretty big upgrade last year. People expect revolutions every year, but that's just not possible
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Timbo is not the Dictatorial Galactic Overlord of Apple. Putting it 'all' on him is a touch naive.

There are many different factors in the why/when/how much of product and pricing. He is one (big!) cog of a big company.
amen. I'm so tired of people saying it's Tim's fault. Sure he has the final say, but really these phones are still great. FaceID was a pretty big upgrade last year. People expect revolutions every year, but that's just not possible
 
Because Apple having the courage to take it away showed it’s users that switching to Bluetooth is the far superior approach.

I was a huge proponent of keeping the headphone jack; I was wrong.

I strongly disagree. The lack of a headphone jack is nothing but an inconvenience intended to help the sale of Airpods, and I say that as someone who has bought pairs for myself and a family member.
 
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The title of this thread includes a question that cannot be accurately answered at the present time. But, I don't think you really wanted an answer as much as you wanted it implied that you're dissatisfied with Apple leadership.

High Prices and lack of features is the reason the iPhone is failing :mad:
This is nothing more than assumption without knowing all of the facts (manufacturing costs, infrastructure, R&D, royalties paid to other companies, overhead, etc). That, and the emoji you chose to use, make your agenda apparent.

I mean why $750 for a phone in 2018/2019 that has a 720p display ?
720 display? Which iPhone in Apple's current new device lineup, on the Apple website, currently have a 1280x720 px display?

And then the XS Max costing $1,500+ with taxes for the highest storage model.
I find it strange that you chose to quote the price of the highest storage model when the majority of people won't need a half-Terabyte of storage on a phone to begin with.. except that it is the best option to support your agenda.

I'm not defending Apple or their practices, I'm simply stating things as I see them. If you think you can do better, why don't you start your own company like Steve Jobs did? But, then again, it's easier to sit back and rant because that doesn't require anything from you today.

Change happens when the pain of doing nothing outweighs the pain of change. If you can bring better devices that work seamlessly with each other to the masses for a lower price, I'll will be among your first customers.
 
In my opinion, Tim Cook will only resign when Apple acquires some new company with a new, exciting product line and a charismatic CEO. That product will be Apple’s next big business, and the new CEO will integrate it into the rest of the Apple product line
 
how much more do you think they can do with an iPhone? Its about as matured as a desktop computer. There is no innovation left. What do you think they can do to improve on it besides lower the price as tech/production advances. Supply and demand gonna apply here soon. Got to boost the demand. With what? who knows, normally lower prices as the tech evolves.
 
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how much more do you think they can do with an iPhone? Its about as matured as a desktop computer. There is no innovation left. What do you think they can do to improve on it besides lower the price as tech/production advances. Supply and demand gonna apply here soon. Got to boost the demand. With what? who knows, normally lower prices as the tech evolves.
There always innovation left. Because you can’t see it doesn’t mean it’s not there for the taking. Yes the cost of old tech goes down, new tech costs more.
 
There always innovation left. Because you can’t see it doesn’t mean it’s not there for the taking. Yes the cost of old tech goes down, new tech costs more.

Time will tell. How much more new tech do you think they can cram into a smartphone?
 
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