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I think that Apple has become way too numbers & data driven (this is a good thing but not on its own) with not enough of ‘the vision thing’.

It strikes me on seeing Job’s old keynotes how much of a vision he had for Apple and its products and was able to weave a story around them.

And how proud he was to launch new products. With Jobs you didn’t see many times when he kept older models hanging around for years (meaning 3-4) which is increasingly common under Cook.

Apple needs to get that sense of a narrative back.

Also more prosiacally, Apple are in trouble as they’re taking their iPhone lineup to super premium/affordable luxury levels for their mature markets whilst expecting to grow in markets such as India and China.

The iPhone is a mature product and this is another “S” cycle which has been boring us since 2011. The only thing different this time is a “miss” that Apple had to forecasted earnings in China.

Much ado about nothing. All this depression in the stock price does is make a lot of people more wealthy 12 to 18 months from now when Apple releases a great new premium flagship product.

We have seen this script repeat itself for almost a decade, these knee-jerk threads are as predictable as Apple’s stock-price-bounce strategy.
 
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I liked the X and found the technology interesting but knew straight away I wasn’t comfortable paying £1k for a phone so I was turned off. This year was the same for me. I felt more compelled with the 8+ because it was a more sensible way to try the current technology. I think going forward I will buy last years iPhone every 2 years and upgrade my watch more often. I have a series 2 but right now it’s still too good to replace. I may get the series 5 though as I was mighty impressed by the series 4. The watch seems to have replaced the iPhone for wow factor.

Agree, I think that the watch is the next ‘thing’.
 
Agree, I think that the watch is the next ‘thing’.

I completely agree. I’ve said this in another thread but the Watch adds a host of features and functionality to an iPhone. Add a Watch to an iPhone 7, even a 6, and the combination gives more that an iPhone XS used in isolation.

Before I got a Watch I was slightly sceptical about its usefulness. And I’m a tech person. I think that there are a lot of people out there who would love the Apple Watch if they just tried it. And unlike smartphones it’s still getting significantly better year on year.
 
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It was never about Tim. It was about another geek in charge. Find person who is enthusiastic as Steve was about "going forward" and you will pay 999,- gladly.
 
High Prices and lack of features is the reason the iPhone is failing :mad:
I mean why $750 for a phone in 2018/2019 that has a 720p display ? And not too much different from the 2016’s iPhone 7 4.7inch
And then the XS Max costing $1,500+ with taxes for the highest storage model.
You're right about the screen resolution. Apple bullsh!t phrases like liquid retina to cover up fact it's a half HD 2013 resolution display that's now available in a £50 Chinese phone is pathetic.
 
I'm just guessing here, but it's very likely that big Apple decisions are not dictated by one person (CEO). Jobs was a dictator and his decree was law, but nowadays it's a safe bet that important decisions are voted on by the board of directors, or at least excom, not dictated by the CEO.
 
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You're right about the screen resolution. Apple bullsh!t phrases like liquid retina to cover up fact it's a half HD 2013 resolution display that's now available in a £50 Chinese phone is pathetic.

Does the consumer care one way or the about ‘Screen resolution’? Not really. They don’t pay attention to things like that. But what you seemingly didn’t mention in your post, Apple has been notorious for having some of the best LCD quality displays on the iPhones for years, and generally that’s never been a complaint about the resolution at all.
 
Does the consumer care one way or the about ‘Screen resolution’? Not really. They don’t pay attention to things like that. But what you seemingly didn’t mention in your post, Apple has been notorious for having some of the best LCD quality displays on the iPhones for years, and generally that’s never been a complaint about the resolution at all.

For some, it’s all about comparing numbers - unless you’re comparing Apple SOC benchmarks to the competition. Then it doesn’t matter, lol.
 
While I'm sure that Ive and the Apple design team will undoubtedly come up with some features that will be useful, the days of those blow-us-away features are over, the X having taken advantage of all the good ones that were left to explore a year ago.

When the iPhone 7's big innovation was 3D Touch and all that's incremental about the Xr is a lesser display for a lower price, the jig is up. It happened to radio, it happened to VCR's, it happened to CD players, it happened to desktops, it happened to notebooks, it happened to tablets, now it's happened to phones. There may be limitless content and limitless apps, but there's no such thing as limitless hardware. History shows this to be true.

Disagree - the Watch+iPhone trumps any other phone+watch out there and certainly any phone. The innovation and features that are currently being added into this tandem system is immense.
 
Smart phones are mature products and not matter who will continue to be such. There are many articles about no growth because everyone who wants one has one so only replacements but phones are so good today hard to really want to replace.
 
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There is still room for growth, by poaching other manufacturer’s customers and in developing markets. The iPhone XR seems to have been especially effective with Android users.

This is an interesting concept. As Apple places more emphasis on services, it becomes more important to provide a cheaper hardware platform for developing markets. The emphasis is shifting somewhat from hardware to the ‘ecosystem’, so Apple does need a foothold in developing markets that can’t afford traditional Apple hardware, but can afford apps, media, etc.
 
You're right about the screen resolution. Apple bullsh!t phrases like liquid retina to cover up fact it's a half HD 2013 resolution display that's now available in a £50 Chinese phone is pathetic.
To be fair the screen on the Xr is better than the screen on a £50 android phone but for its price point and for 2018 it’s not good enough. People give it a pass and start comparing it to mid range android phones because it’s not a flagship iPhone but the reality is that it’s as expensive as an S9 or the pixel 3. Both phones have much better screens.
 
Angela Ahrendts makes the most money at Apple, she makes more than Tim Cook. I doubt they will get rid of her lol.

https://www.businessinsider.com/angela-ahrendts-life-career-apple-highest-paid-executive-2018-5

I hate hate hate this new Apple retail "experience". There will be some dude in the middle of the store teaching a Garage Band class on an iPad that no one is even remotely interested in, a giant screen that serves zero purpose, all the while people waiting for the Genius Bar with their broken iPhone have zero reserved space and must wait around or stand in line by the 2nd class product table (Beats, Mac Pros, LG Displays) at the sides of the store.

100% trash.
 
There’s people here who still want the IOS 6 design back!
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I hate hate hate this new Apple retail "experience". There will be some dude in the middle of the store teaching a Garage Band class on an iPad that no one is even remotely interested in, a giant screen that serves zero purpose, all the while people waiting for the Genius Bar with their broken iPhone have zero reserved space and must wait around or stand in line by the 2nd class product table (Beats, Mac Pros, LG Displays) at the sides of the store.

100% trash.
People sign up for those classes and they’re always full.

And those aren’t second class products. They just are accessories., except for the Mac Pro
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If anyone has to go - its Ive and maybe, Ahrendts.
Ive designed every Apple product since the iMac. Maybe even before. Why in the world would they get rid of him?
 
I hate hate hate this new Apple retail "experience". There will be some dude in the middle of the store teaching a Garage Band class on an iPad that no one is even remotely interested in, a giant screen that serves zero purpose, all the while people waiting for the Genius Bar with their broken iPhone have zero reserved space and must wait around or stand in line by the 2nd class product table (Beats, Mac Pros, LG Displays) at the sides of the store.

100% trash.

I hate trying to float around the store trying to catch someone I can check out with.
 
I hate hate hate this new Apple retail "experience".

It's the only store in the mall where you can't walk in with cash and walk out with your product. It's ridiculous that I need to order it online, then wait an hour to receive an email before I can get my product. When I got my iPad, they had 10 people just standing there waiting to help someone. But they couldn't walk in the back and get my stuff that I'd already paid for because I hadn't gotten an email from Apple yet. I would have gone to Best Buy if they'd had what I wanted in stock. I avoid the Apple Store whenever possible unless I'm wanting to look at products.
 
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I hate hate hate this new Apple retail "experience". There will be some dude in the middle of the store teaching a Garage Band class on an iPad that no one is even remotely interested in, a giant screen that serves zero purpose, all the while people waiting for the Genius Bar with their broken iPhone have zero reserved space and must wait around or stand in line by the 2nd class product table (Beats, Mac Pros, LG Displays) at the sides of the store.

100% trash.


I completely agree, I don't like it either. It's like the DMV now, as some have said in other forums.
I brought that up her salary though, because the Company seems to value what she does.
 
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